magius wrote: still? that's all I was ever saying. no, you can't just pair any average player next to a star, there are certain players that are just more effective in said situation - for the star and for themselves. For example, rafer alston is not a preferred "average player" to pair with a star.
i wouldn't call hinrich a great defensive player, more like a good one. gordon can only handle the pg, and even then not spectacularly to say the least.
anyway, if you're fine with the bulls backcourt that is fine. i guess time will tell, but i personally think it is a safe bet that building around a core of gordon, hinrich, deng will garner zero championships.
you really want me to say 0.310 or whatever the number, hypothetically could be? i think its reasonable to say a third.
maes wrote:Draft
I read the Bulls worked out Spencer Hawes again. I can't tell if this is a good or bad thing for Hawes...does this mean they like him? Or does this mean there is some concern/division about drafting him so they brought him back in for a 2nd look?
Anyone listen to Pax's interview?
make up your mind-you contradicted yourself. you said earlier he would be a solid 2nd guard if you put him next to a star player.
lol am i debating with "matt" or "flop" or whatever he/she goes by now? hinrich not a great defensive player? fine then explain why. otherwise i think you're just saying that to disagree with me. and btw i'm probably the biggest hinrich critic of the bulls fan here but i have to give his due respect. and it's about time he made all defensive team
as for gordon it's obvious he's the poorer defender between him and hinrich. why mention again? and have you even watched their games to see he's improved from being highway 7 his rookie year to at least an average defender?? or that he does in fact guard SG's? probably not
no shit sherlock. if they can't get at the least a competent scorer in the post, it's not happening lol
lol what's the motive in mentioning all this in the first place? it seems like you're just looking for anything to rip on regarding the Bulls franchise. go right ahead lol. btw what's your fav team? i'd like to return the favor
Wallace will make $15.5 mil. they have a small backcourt. Paxson settles. despite these horrific negatives, the team is in a pretty good situation.
I’m glad we’re having this debate- you’re a good but not great poster here hehe
Sure we’re disagreeing on a few points here. Have I seen more bulls games then you? Probably. That’s besides the point. But in your arguments- you haven’t listed any stats to back them up and have dodged my question of how many games you’ve actually seen.
Snow working out in Philly was a unique situation. Snow could regulary guard SG’s but Duhon can’t and he’s not all 1st all defensive team worthy. Doesn’t add up to Duhon being a “core” player to me.
First you said duhon can fit next to star a player then you said not all ‘role’ players can fit with a star player. Whatever…
Gordon’s defense did not improve like your hypothetical ben Wallace improvement. But if you still think otherwise, maybe you should take this up with Skiles, who’s reiterated on many occasions that Gordon’s improvement on defense is what gave him the starting job. Hinrich’s “goodness” on defense alone may not cover Gordon’s deficiencies however when you factor Deng and Big Ben…
Gordon’s defense did not improve like your hypothetical ben Wallace improvement. But if you still think otherwise, maybe you should take this up with Skiles, who’s reiterated on many occasions that Gordon’s improvement on defense is what gave him the starting job. Hinrich’s “goodness” on defense alone may not cover Gordon’s deficiencies however when you factor Deng and Big Ben…
Pretty lofty standard you use with the word ‘great’. So with your philosophy- you believe that players like Prince, Garnett, Ben Wallace, and Kidd this year were considered only good defenders. Wow
You’d like to see them win, I’d like to see them win. It’s obvious they need the post scoring and ideally a bigger backcourt makes sense. Can we agree on that? lol
As they say, easier said then done. IMO Paxson would have already made the blockbuster trade if he felt it improved the team and not kill their salary situation for the next few years. Having 2 Wallace “ridiculous” type contracts wouldn’t be good
The Grizzlies' unleashed a full-scale recruitment of Chicago's restricted free agent Andres Nocioni. Not only did general manager Chris Wallace fly to Argentina to meet with Nocioni to sell Memphis and the Griz, head coach Marc Iavaroni joined the discussions via telephone. Pau Gasol even phoned Nocioni to present a convincing pitch.
The Griz still have not tendered an offer to Nocioni. Chicago would have seven days to match whenever Nocioni receives an offer.
Imagine what the team would be like if they didn't trade away Brand for the rights to Chandler.Hmmmmm.
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