Upgrades/'Things you've done in anticipation for Live 2004

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Postby kp4life on Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:58 pm

hey cocobe how come i have exact same computer as
your except for the graphic card and you run live 2003
max 1280 and i only can run it smooth in medium 1024*16 setting?
i have exact same computer as your except the video card
which is old radeon 7200 32mb
is graphic card that big of a deal? it effects that much in your game
settings?
cause i have atholon 1800+ xp
516 ddr
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Postby cocobee on Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:45 pm

Hmmm..I don't know. If anything, I ordered it from Micron PC. Not sure if they tweaked it or what, all I know is when I was ordering it, I made sure that it was a gaming cpu first and everything else was secondary in my book :wink:
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Postby Nick on Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:18 pm

Uzumaki wrote:
Nick wrote:Well, looks like i'll be playing live '04 on low detail settings again. My machine is getting old.

Pentium 3, 550
128 RAM
GeForce 4 MX (which i bought today for live 04...didn't make a huge difference to live 2003 compared to a GF 2 MX though. :()


I don't think the game will be playable on that computer though. Too little RAM and to few Mhz's.

I will be upgrading from a P3 450mhz to a AMD Atholn Xp 2600+, 512 DDR, GeForce FX 5600 Ultra 128.

I should be fine. NBA Live 2003 runs at about 35 fps... with player detail on maximum, environment on high, lighting on high, shadows on low, reflections off and crowd off. Resolution at: 1024x700x32. So i should be okay. i plan to buy more RAM eventually too. so that will make a huge difference.

It wont be great, but it will be playable i can assure that.
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Postby Scary Hedo on Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:40 am

I got a

P4, 2400 mhz
256 mb ram
Geforce 4 MX 440, 64 mb
Directx 9

should I be able to play on high settings?
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Postby Swoosh on Thu Sep 11, 2003 6:26 am

if that doesnt do it, i think the minimum requirements will be outrageous then, it should do it imho
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Postby bishibashiboy on Thu Sep 11, 2003 8:09 am

Scary Hedo wrote:I got a

P4, 2400 mhz
256 mb ram
Geforce 4 MX 440, 64 mb
Directx 9

should I be able to play on high settings?


Sure..but it'll be choppy. Don't expect >30fps. You should double your RAM and upgrade your graphics card.
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Postby Scary Hedo on Thu Sep 11, 2003 8:17 am

ok, thanks
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Postby JAY__JAY_ on Thu Sep 11, 2003 4:26 pm

i play nhl 2002. u recon i could play nba 2003. i have 2 drives. on 3 gig the other 1.6, 50x cd drive. intel inside? i dunno what it all means 160 ram
is it enough to run nba 2003 not 2004 ill get that on console
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Postby Metsis on Thu Sep 11, 2003 5:37 pm

I'm getting a new monitor... My current monitor is busted already. Still works kind of, but it's got one foot in the grave already...

Don't know about other upgrades... Might make some if the game doesn't play well.
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Postby BIG GREEN on Thu Sep 11, 2003 5:42 pm

Bredrin : i changed my mind..i'll keep the Ti 4200 :proud:

I dont really have the money to upgrade my video card now..but if i had to..i'd go ATI 9800 +. Nvidia has really fallen off...their cards aren't worth getting.

Instead i think i'll upgrade my ram to about 1 gigabyte (will cost like $90). That should give me an extra 5 fps with side band addressing.

However, the thing about the nba live series is that they have a frame rate limiter in place. What that means is: no matter how fast your rig is...you wont get more than about 30 fps...which is a low down dirty shame.
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Postby bishibashiboy on Thu Sep 11, 2003 6:31 pm

Yohance Bailey wrote:However, the thing about the nba live series is that they have a frame rate limiter in place. What that means is: no matter how fast your rig is...you wont get more than about 30 fps...which is a low down dirty shame.


Hmm..not true. I've never experienced this frame limiter at 30. What makes you think that? I'm averaging around 70 fps on my custom detail levels presently w/ V-sync on and my monitor refresh at 85Hz. As far as I can tell, the game has no frame rate cap.
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Postby BIG GREEN on Fri Sep 12, 2003 8:22 am

I should have said it was a hunch or something....but thats even worse that it doesn't have a cap..cause a game like nba live 2003 shouldn't be lagging on me with max details..even with all the bells and whistles on.
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Postby Bourbon on Fri Sep 12, 2003 8:57 am

cause a game like nba live 2003 shouldn't be lagging on me with max details


I had this problem, too, and it was ridiculously frustrating. Do you guys think NBA Live 2004 will run more smoothly than 2003? Of all the wishes and wants I have for Live 2004, it's frame rate capability is probably #1.
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Postby bishibashiboy on Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:06 am

Yohance Bailey wrote:I should have said it was a hunch or something....but thats even worse that it doesn't have a cap..cause a game like nba live 2003 shouldn't be lagging on me with max details..even with all the bells and whistles on.


Yeah, with the graphics card you had you should have been able to easily play the game well. But that's EA Sports for you!

Bourbon wrote:I had this problem, too, and it was ridiculously frustrating. Do you guys think NBA Live 2004 will run more smoothly than 2003? Of all the wishes and wants I have for Live 2004, it's frame rate capability is probably #1.

That's my wish too. Haven't heard of any news about this at all. I expect it to be around the same, if not worse though. I'm pretty sure it's a DX9 game and if it uses some of the advanced shader features make sure you're not using a GeforceFX card unless you want it to play like shit.
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Postby Metsis on Fri Sep 12, 2003 3:15 pm

The frame rates dropped due to some problem with the mouse and there were instructions on how to go around it, but I never bothered to use them or even try them.

Something like turn off your mouse, then start the game, then come back to windows to turn on your mouse again and then play the game. I never tried this so I don't know if it worked or not... A problem with the mouse??? Could this reek more of a direct console conversion??? How about NO. This problem was with some gamepads too, but I never had a game pad so I don't know about that.

Hopefully all these will be better in Live 2004.
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Postby Nick on Fri Sep 12, 2003 5:19 pm

Man, my computer was top of the line 3 years ago...

Now i'm doubting whether i'll be able to play a freakin' sports game here! : :furious:
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Postby Andrew on Fri Sep 12, 2003 6:05 pm

Metsis wrote:The frame rates dropped due to some problem with the mouse and there were instructions on how to go around it, but I never bothered to use them or even try them.


The problem was with USB devices in Windows 98. EA did release a patch which fixed the problem (which was fortunate for me :wink:).
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Postby MicroAJN on Sat Sep 20, 2003 3:43 pm

Old: :(
800mhz amd
16mb video card
512mb sdram

New: :P
P4 2.4 800mhz fsb
ati radeon 9600 pro 128mb
512mb ddr ram

All for live 2004
And now i'm broke :cry:
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Postby Jimi on Sat Sep 20, 2003 5:49 pm

Question...

Which would you recommend? :

Geforce 4 mx 480 64mb 8x AGP or ATI 9200-128MB/AGP 8x/TvOut/DVI

I actually own the geforce, what im asking is if i change cards will i actually see any major differences? :?:
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Postby kwame4life on Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:23 pm

So guys wat do y'all think of this PC

AMD Duron(tm)Processor
801 MHz
512 MB of RAM
GeForce4 MX 420 with 64 MB

so tell me wat u think ,and how it will do still wit LIVE 2004 thx..........
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Postby Cameron on Thu Sep 25, 2003 6:46 am

Jimi Hendrix: The ATI 9000+ are much better than then Geforce MX series... not sure if it's worth the upgrade though (unless of course Live 2004 won't support Geforce MX). I'd wait until 2004 comes out and try it before making the decision to upgrade.
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Re: Upgrades/'Things you've done in anticipation for Live 20

Postby nickia on Thu Sep 25, 2003 12:43 pm

WalleO wrote:I just upgraded from an athlon 2600xp to a 3000 Barton 400 FSB Athlon processor, upgraded my ATI 9700 pro to a 9800 pro and from a 512mb 2700 Ram to 1GHZ of 3200 Ram. I also sold my 21 inch monitor on ebay to purchase a 19 inch LCD monitor. I think im all set for the game now and im pretty excited. Now im completely broke :(


hey dude, it's no need to upgrade 9700 pro to 9800 pro. except you got a lots of money :shock:

you guys are rich :oops:

i'm still using my radeon8500, costs me 350 bucks. :(
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Postby Old School Fool on Thu Sep 25, 2003 12:46 pm

I'm getting ready for Live 2004 by...>PLaying Madden 2004 for PS2 :lol:
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Postby bishibashiboy on Thu Sep 25, 2003 1:00 pm

Jimi_Hendrix wrote:Question...

Which would you recommend? :

Geforce 4 mx 480 64mb 8x AGP or ATI 9200-128MB/AGP 8x/TvOut/DVI

I actually own the geforce, what im asking is if i change cards will i actually see any major differences? :?:


yes but very little..save your money and buy a better graphics card. Both stink for games, with the Radeon 9200 stinking a lil less.

kwame4life wrote:So guys wat do y'all think of this PC

AMD Duron(tm)Processor
801 MHz
512 MB of RAM
GeForce4 MX 420 with 64 MB

so tell me wat u think ,and how it will do still wit LIVE 2004 thx..........

Good for playing on low detail (based on Live 2003).
Bad for any higher. You badly need a faster cpu and graphics card. I think it's time for you to consider upgrading a bit.

nickiahey dude, it's no need to upgrade 9700 pro to 9800 pro. except you got a lots of money

you guys are rich


Agree with you 100%. 9700pro was good enough.
Suppozedly the Radeon 9800XT coming out at the end of the month will cause many rich 9800pro users to want to switch to them. hmm......
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Postby senhorxxx on Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:35 pm

my pc specs is P4 2.0, 512 mb ram, Geforce 4 ti 4200. That pc would run nba live 04 at 1024x700, high detail and smooth frame rate ????
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