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Fastbreak

Postby galvatron3000 on Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:17 pm

I threw a pass to Tony Parker from back court towards the mid court while they were on the break, he sort of jumped while running and caught it and kept his stride towards the basket. This is inconsistent, to have players continue to move towards the basket, but it helps when you don't use the traditional pass button in transition. In other words, he didn't stop to catch the pass. I was impressed. I also like the low post move when you tap the Y button twice while backing in the post( if you have a Duncan it looks sweet).
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Postby Alcoholic on Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:20 pm

What does this post move look like?
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Postby galvatron3000 on Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:21 pm

It's a fake move. Fake left then turn right then hit the shoot button. It's so sweet. :D I think you must be backing the defender down with the L trigger though.
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Postby Alcoholic on Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:24 pm

Oh thats cool. I think that's the one I saw in the videos. I will be master of the post hehe. :D Might look forward to playing a game with some people here this year.
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Postby galvatron3000 on Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:29 pm

Yeah and I hid it in this thread like EA hid it from the instruction booklet :D
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Postby durvasa on Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:44 pm

So do you need to press the lob button for the in-stride pass to work properly?

I read somewhere that if the pass is over 60 feet, he jump up and get it, but otherwise he'll keep running. That's not the case?

Actually, a better way to implement it is have an outlet pass rating. So good outlet passers like Oakley or even a Jason Kidd could hit a player in stride from like 70 feet.
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Postby galvatron3000 on Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:49 pm

durvasa wrote:So do you need to press the lob button for the in-stride pass to work properly?


I found this to be effective in Live 2004 so naturally I used this mentality in 2005. If you use the traditional pass button in transition the player always stops to turn and catch, actually in the Live 2004 booklet it tells you that what the button is for. Not sure if it says it in 2005's booklet.

It did seem as though Parker jumped to catch the pass in forward stride and he landed and kept on trucking. I just messed up the break myself so no points or pretty execution occurred.
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Postby PremiumPete83 on Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:16 pm

this may be stupid, but button is the 'lob' button? lol
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Postby durvasa on Thu Sep 30, 2004 4:28 pm

PremiumPete83 wrote:this may be stupid, but button is the 'lob' button? lol


The button used to throw alley-oops.
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Postby galvatron3000 on Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:31 pm

anyone using the y button in the post yet?
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Postby j.23 on Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:54 pm

that fake move you're talkin about is an awesome move.. i was using kobe, and i isolated aaron mckie in the post.. posted him up, faked one way, spun the other and went under for a finger roll.. sweetest move ive done so far :)
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Postby Rokas[LTU] on Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:28 pm

Can anyone make movie of that move ?
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Postby Syphon on Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:44 pm

The post move?? Operation Sports have it in one of the Live 2005 videos they have posted - I think it is video number 16 (but don't quote me on that). It shows the Heat playing against the Pacers and Jermaine O'Neal does it twice.

http://www.operationsports.com/reviews. ... ve2005xbox
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Postby BIG GREEN on Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:57 pm

I actually didnt know you could run better fast breaks with the 'lob' butten. I have noticed in controller set up it says "alley-oop/fastbreak"...so i need to try that. If this is true..it proves that that gamespot editor who reviewed the game is a mediocre..cause one of their gripes was that you couldnt run a proper fast break in the game.

That fake low post move is tight...it definitly adds a bit more realism to the game. It looks especially nice when people like kobe, garnett and o'neal use it.
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Postby cyanide on Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:08 am

Oh man, yeah that looks nice (it is video #16). The game looks a lot better from press box view, and I really like how it's looking so far. I can't wait till I get my hands on the PC version!
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Postby galvatron3000 on Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:09 am

[quote="Yohance (BIGGREEN) Bailey"]I actually didnt know you could run better fast breaks with the 'lob' butten. I have noticed in controller set up it says "alley-oop/fastbreak"...so i need to try that. If this is true..it proves that that gamespot editor who reviewed the game is a mediocre..cause one of their gripes was that you couldnt run a proper fast break in the game.

It worked last year. Like I said it doesn't always work because sometimes the player seems obligated to turn and catch but in some cases the player will keep in stride towards the basket when catching the lob pass down court.
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Postby -BHZMAFIA- on Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:24 am

It worked last year. Like I said it doesn't always work because sometimes the player seems obligated to turn and catch but in some cases the player will keep in stride towards the basket when catching the lob pass down court.


Yea, that's what I was talking about a while ago about sometime the player would turn around and catch the ball like in Live 04. After experiencing with the game for a while, I learned how to run a properly fastbreak.
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Postby John-John Joe on Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:32 am

Yohance (BIGGREEN) Bailey wrote:I actually didnt know you could run better fast breaks with the 'lob' butten. I have noticed in controller set up it says "alley-oop/fastbreak"...so i need to try that. If this is true..it proves that that gamespot editor who reviewed the game is a mediocre..cause one of their gripes was that you couldnt run a proper fast break in the game.

That fake low post move is tight...it definitly adds a bit more realism to the game. It looks especially nice when people like kobe, garnett and o'neal use it.


What really proves that the Gamespot reviewer was mediocre was disseminating misinformation. He said that in Franchise mode the trade portion was cumbersome because you had to totally leave the screen to see player salaries. What dumb-dumb didn't know is that all he had to do was toggle the X button on his XBox controller to view salaries! :roll:

It's just like I was telling sho89mtx (Haven't heard from our beloved ESPN guy in a while), alot of these reviewers don't know diddly so there's no sense in putting so much stock in their reviews or scores.
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Postby Alcoholic on Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:17 am

SbHZmAFiA wrote:
It worked last year. Like I said it doesn't always work because sometimes the player seems obligated to turn and catch but in some cases the player will keep in stride towards the basket when catching the lob pass down court.


Yea, that's what I was talking about a while ago about sometime the player would turn around and catch the ball like in Live 04. After experiencing with the game for a while, I learned how to run a properly fastbreak.


I don't understand this. So when you get the rebound you hit the ally oop button?
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Postby 50first on Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:52 am

Alcoholic wrote:I don't understand this. So when you get the rebound you hit the ally oop button?


hit the lob button for an outlet pass when your man is running the break so he doesn't stop.

not a fan of the sports reviews on ign or gamespot... reading an exactly written review on one game for all the systems is not my thing. but michelle knows my thing :lol: sorry kobe and fam but i couldn't help it.
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Postby Spinners on Mon Oct 04, 2004 5:58 am

Whats the "lob" button for the XBOX?
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Postby jaywill on Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:13 am

yeah wats the button for the lob pass?
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Postby ask1 on Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:06 am

hit the lob button for an outlet pass when your man is running the break so he doesn't stop.


I don't have 05 yet (cause I'm gettin it on PC), but in 04 when I try this, the guy just attempts to catch the ball in the air and lob it up towards the basket - this happens even on fast breaks from the back court.
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Postby Spinners on Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:20 am

k3232x wrote:Whats the "lob" button for the XBOX?
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Postby durvasa on Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:28 am

I really need someone to clarify the lob/fastbreak button (black button on X-box) for me. As far as I can tell, the fastbreak button makes no difference as far getting the fastbreaks to be smoother without player's stopping to receive the ball. Additionally, there are time when using this button where instead of throwing an outlet pass, the recipient jumps in the air and shoots the ball as if its an alley-oop.

Am I doing something wrong?
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