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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v3.2 Released!

Postby TGsoGood on Wed Jul 01, 2015 12:59 pm

johnwest1985 wrote:see your point... i just felt that okafor and towns russel and cauley stein could be quite lower rated considering the general player rating of all players beeing lower then it was before in 2k or meds roster. Just to balance it out.


I was agreeing with you. I always edit draft classes prior to starting an association. I don't mind if a guy is in the 80's in his 2nd season but it's rare to have a player be that good in season 1 especially to start the season.
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v3.2 Released!

Postby JEDL on Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:24 pm

johnwest1985 wrote:Been checking out your roster Kevin and noticed a view things with the player RATINGS. ( according to albys back in the days u couldnt really just change things and overal ratings dont tell the whole truth so maybe im wrong when it comes to this new way of giving ratings) i took the most obvious ones to me

1) Rookies to me seem to be slightly overrated, Especially the big guys could be 78 instead of 80 to me but thats my taste also considering parker and wiggins beeing only 80.

2)some players i noticed to me where under and overrated. I only looked as far as Lakers:

Covington: underrated
Snell: underrated
Varejao: overated slighly ( durablity to high ?)
Lebron: Stamina should maybe go down by 1 or 2 due to age
Kyrie Irving: Durability should be lower ? he is quite injurt prone
Vince Carter: 3pt procentage to high ? he didnt shoot good from three this year. Reg season .297 Playoffs .250
Chris Bosh: Seems to be better then 80 to me in overall. Dont know why. Maybe his durability should be a little lower due to his health issues though
Wade: isnt he better then his rating but with low durability ? I mean when he is healthy he plays like an all star
Cousins: Best big man in the league together with Davis. Should be close to 90 overall to me
Rudy Gay: isnt he better overal then 78 ? maybe slightly ?
D. Russel: as many rookies maybe overrated but his dunk should be higher then 25 or ? he does dunk does he?

Kamisky vs rudy Gobert ... just and exemple. Kaminsky has a higher overall rate

Jordan Clarckson: should be better as pg ? he is really talented to me
Jeremy Lin: Also not a horrible point guard. Maybe 75 overall instead?
Boozer: Also not bad when he plays.. maybe lower minutes stamina and durablity but still skillfull.

this is what i saw now myself.. only looked as far as lakers.

Please guys way in on my opinion. I watch a lot of basketball so i only want to help.


I did most of the players' ratings, and I honestly agree that most rookies were rated a but too high. I found that doing edits with them were extremely difficult. Most rookies had impressive stats prior to the NBA Draft and basically I couldn't really know whether they'd maintain that in their transition to the NBA so I left most of them untouched or decreased their ratings a bit.

But I'd like to give out some points on your comment:

  • Covington- as much as I'd like to rate him higher, he put up impressive numbers on a terrible team with a PER below league average (the average is 15.00 and he has 14.75). Remember Jodie Meeks? He put up good numbers on a terrible team (Lakers in 2013-14 season) and his production and minutes went slightly down on a mediocre team this year
  • Snell- Sorry, I haven't really looked into his ratings XD
  • Varejao- I had an internal debate whether let either Mozgov or Varejao get higher ratings since they never really had a chance to play together. Varejao had an injury to cut his season short so I couldn't really make any comparisons when they're both active in their rotations. Who knows? If Varejao was healthy they might've made him a starter over Mozgov and might've had a better production
  • LeBron- I haven't edited him because I was satisfied with his 96 overall. But yeah I'll take that minor adjustment into consideration
  • Irving- Same reason as LeBron but I'll adjust his durability
  • Carter- I'll look into that
  • Bosh and Wade- they were originally rated lower, I raised it up a bit for this update. I agree with your points though. So do you want it to be higher then?
  • Cousins- Yes, I read the B/R report and agree with that but I didn't really touch his ratings though.
  • Gay- Same reason as Bosh and Wade. He posted a very high PER, and I agree with you that he should get an increase. But then again, he put up great numbers on a bad team.
  • Russel- I'm not sure about the rookies at all...sorry.
  • Kaminsky vs Gobert- same reason as Russel and most rookies.
  • Clarkson and Lin- I had a difficult time deciding whether to adjust their ratings or not, both had good numbers and PER (Lin was slightly higher than league average while Clarkson was higher) but those stats were put up on a really bad Laker team and not to mention that both of them put up a bad Defensive ratings per 100 possessions (112 for Clarkson and 110 for Lin). And putting Lin on 75 would make him better than Darren Collison and Reggie Jackson who had more minutes (the coach trusts them more), had better stats (PPG, etc.) and had a higher PER. So I doubt that.
  • Boozer- Hmmmm...maybe...
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v3.2 Released!

Postby johnwest1985 on Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:30 pm

thanks for response man !! shall i give my opinion on the other teams also ?
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v3.2 Released!

Postby Kevin on Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:10 pm

johnwest1985 wrote:what jerseys do u use in your roster kevin ? any of pinoy ? he made some real good ones ...

RamBu's, Myth's, and 2k's jerseys only. I'll try and contact Pinoy and ask for permission.

johnwest1985 wrote:thanks for response man !! shall i give my opinion on the other teams also ?

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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v3.2 Released!

Postby johnwest1985 on Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:21 pm

monta ellis to pacers ? they can be a nice team with Paul George back
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v3.2 Released!

Postby Kevin on Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:25 pm

johnwest1985 wrote:monta ellis to pacers ? they can be a nice team with Paul George back
Sources say they're close to singing him. Pacers would probably face LeBron James again :lol:
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v3.2 Released!

Postby Kevin on Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:27 pm

I'm planning to make another version of the roster where Wade and the others are Free Agents and the other version is they are in their last team that they played with for MyCareer/Association stuff.

What do you guys think?
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v3.2 Released!

Postby johnwest1985 on Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:31 pm

just make sure you dont break your hand with all that editing :))
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v3.2 Released!

Postby JEDL on Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:32 pm

johnwest1985 wrote:thanks for response man !! shall i give my opinion on the other teams also ?


Sure thing, I'd like to see if I've missed out on other players
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v3.2 Released!

Postby johnwest1985 on Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:46 pm

what i ment with varjao that his durability should go down.. since he is always injured :)
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v3.2 Released!

Postby Kevin on Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:17 pm

The Free Agency Roster is now ready to be released. My hands hurt.
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v4.0 Released!

Postby Kevin on Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:18 pm

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Features:

- Correct lineups
- Realistic Attributes
- Corrected Salaries
- Up-to-date transactions
- Injury-Free
- Updated all players overall, tendencies (based on real stats nba.com)
- Updated all players Signature shots, shoes, accessories, dunk packages, dribble moves, roles, plays, personality and career development
- Updated coach profiles (based on real stats from NBA.com)
- Updated coach skills
- Real NBA playbooks: 50 plays for every team!
- Added more than 500 jerseys for NBA teams; some teams have various versions of accessories color for the same jerseys.
- Updated colors of accessories
- Various improvements for better Association mode
- Realistic sliders for best NBA 2K gameplay ever.

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Needed Files:

Recommended Global (Kevin's Ultimate Global) [12MB]
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Jerseys Pack #1 [18mb]
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Jerseys Pack #2 [42mb]
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Cyberfaces Pack #1 [40mb]
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Cyberfaces Pack #2 [60mb]
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Cyberfaces Pack #3 [45mb]
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Shoes Pack #1 [15mb]
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NBA Portraits [150mb]
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Miscellaneous Stuff Pack #1 [150mb]
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NBA 2015-2016 Updated Team Logos [18mb]
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Updated Courts
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Kevin's Realistic Roster v3.0 [1MB]

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For the roster and settings files:
-Go to %appdata%
-Open 2k Sports
-Open the 2K14 folder
-Open the Saves folder
-Copy and paste all the files inside the .rar file.
-Load it in-game

For the iff files:
-Copy everything in the .rar file into you main 2k14 directory.
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Kevin’s Roster Beta

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Kevin's Roster Beta V2.0

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Kevin's Roster V3.0

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Kevin's Roster V4.0

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Beta (6-20-15)
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Adjusted Ratings
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Updated Staff members
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Beta v2.0 (6-25-15)
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Added slimm and Albys' playbooks
Roster transactions updated through June 25 (Batum to Hornets trade)


v3.0 (6-29-15)
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v4.0 (7-1-15)
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v4.0 Released!

Postby Kevin on Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:03 pm

Here's a preview of the Free Agency Roster

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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v3.2 Released!

Postby JEDL on Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:14 pm

Kevin wrote:The Free Agency Roster is now ready to be released. My hands hurt.


:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Well no pain, no gain. :cheeky:
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v3.2 Released!

Postby GritterAndGrinder on Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:45 am

Kevin wrote:I'm planning to make another version of the roster where Wade and the others are Free Agents and the other version is they are in their last team that they played with for MyCareer/Association stuff.

What do you guys think?


i tried this when making my free agency roster with players moved to projected places and i put some straight into free agency because their future at the time was basically anyone's guess, but when running association, it took forever for any of them to get picked up.

monta ellis- picked up 3 weeks in
robin lopez- picked up 4 weeks in
deandre jordan- picked up around allstar weekend
wesley matthews, lou williams, tobias harris, paul pierce, al-farouq aminu- never picked up. (not even in the next year)
so leaving all of them in free agency may or may not work. in mycareer, none of them ever got picked up. not even ellis.

also: i think the rookie contracts are messed up. they all seem to be on one-year contracts?

edit: just thought i'd point this out, cause matthews, williams, and harris atleast deserved to be on teams. and if mycareer doesnt sign any free agents during the season, i'd hate to be playing it without lebron james the first season. lol
edit2: could you get in touch with whoever made the cyberface for mike conley in the UBR. it looks sooo much better than the 2k standard one you have in your roster currents and i always go in and change it whenever i download your updates.
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v4.0 Released!

Postby Kevin on Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:08 am

Rookie contracts aren't messed up, I don't know what you're talking about.

I warned everyone that they shouldn't use the FA Roster in MyCareer Mode or Association since it'll cause problems because of 2k's logic.

Nah, Hawk'll go batshit crazy when somebody "steals" stuff thats included in his project.
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v4.0 Released!

Postby johnwest1985 on Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:56 am

why doesnt the dude save the old roster instead lol
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v4.0 Released!

Postby GritterAndGrinder on Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:07 am

Kevin wrote:Rookie contracts aren't messed up, I don't know what you're talking about.

I warned everyone that they shouldn't use the FA Roster in MyCareer Mode or Association since it'll cause problems because of 2k's logic.

Nah, Hawk'll go batshit crazy when somebody "steals" stuff thats included in his project.


1. ok. idk. when i played association mode, like half of them ended up in free agency at the beginning of the second season. might be something jacked up with my personal settings causing teams to release them. my bad.

2. ohhhhh. i misread that part.

3. hahahahahahaha. lmao. i know this all too well. i'll just keep using it on my personal edition. no-one else probably cares anyways. lolz.
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v4.0 Released!

Postby johnwest1985 on Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:29 am

anybody here got an idea how the Vertical stat works and what it has for an effect ?

Like does it mean centimetes ? Or is it just a quality.. and is it absolute or relative. Rusself Westbrook having 90 vert doesnt jump higher like a Wilt Chamberlain with 80 does he.. (just and example)

Trying to make a list with more realistic VERTS..
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v4.0 Released!

Postby johnwest1985 on Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:54 am

any way to increase the salary cap??
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v4.0 Released!

Postby johnwest1985 on Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:29 am

Maybe to use AlecZou trainer to do it ?? viewtopic.php?f=153&t=92987&p=1786275&hilit=cap#p1786275

Lower down: Salary setting (blue), salary hard cap, salary cap, team salary, Unlock setting (blue), Street ball(blacktop?) unlock (left box), Code unlock (right box), Other settings (blue), Autosave.

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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v4.0 Released!

Postby Andrew on Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:35 am

GritterAndGrinder wrote:
Kevin wrote:Rookie contracts aren't messed up, I don't know what you're talking about.

I warned everyone that they shouldn't use the FA Roster in MyCareer Mode or Association since it'll cause problems because of 2k's logic.

Nah, Hawk'll go batshit crazy when somebody "steals" stuff thats included in his project.


1. ok. idk. when i played association mode, like half of them ended up in free agency at the beginning of the second season. might be something jacked up with my personal settings causing teams to release them. my bad.

2. ohhhhh. i misread that part.

3. hahahahahahaha. lmao. i know this all too well. i'll just keep using it on my personal edition. no-one else probably cares anyways. lolz.


Guys, I realise you don't see eye-to-eye with HAWK23 on this one, but stirring the pot isn't cool. Please leave it be.
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v4.0 Released!

Postby GritterAndGrinder on Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:16 pm

Andrew wrote:
GritterAndGrinder wrote:
Kevin wrote:Rookie contracts aren't messed up, I don't know what you're talking about.

I warned everyone that they shouldn't use the FA Roster in MyCareer Mode or Association since it'll cause problems because of 2k's logic.

Nah, Hawk'll go batshit crazy when somebody "steals" stuff thats included in his project.


1. ok. idk. when i played association mode, like half of them ended up in free agency at the beginning of the second season. might be something jacked up with my personal settings causing teams to release them. my bad.

2. ohhhhh. i misread that part.

3. hahahahahahaha. lmao. i know this all too well. i'll just keep using it on my personal edition. no-one else probably cares anyways. lolz.


Guys, I realise you don't see eye-to-eye with HAWK23 on this one, but stirring the pot isn't cool. Please leave it be.


we understand. we were just having a laugh. we'll keep it civil here on out.
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v4.0 Released!

Postby Kevin on Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:27 pm

johnwest1985 wrote:anybody here got an idea how the Vertical stat works and what it has for an effect ?

Like does it mean centimetes ? Or is it just a quality.. and is it absolute or relative. Rusself Westbrook having 90 vert doesnt jump higher like a Wilt Chamberlain with 80 does he.. (just and example)

Trying to make a list with more realistic VERTS..

All I know is if you lower it, players would jump lower than average.

johnwest1985 wrote:any way to increase the salary cap??

TGsoGood said in the UBR thread that he figured it out but had some problems in the long run.

johnwest1985 wrote:Maybe to use AlecZou trainer to do it ?? viewtopic.php?f=153&t=92987&p=1786275&hilit=cap#p1786275

Lower down: Salary setting (blue), salary hard cap, salary cap, team salary, Unlock setting (blue), Street ball(blacktop?) unlock (left box), Code unlock (right box), Other settings (blue), Autosave.

3 blue buttons bottom right corner, left to right: Read, load a file, save setting to a file

Have you tried this?

Andrew wrote:
GritterAndGrinder wrote:
Kevin wrote:Rookie contracts aren't messed up, I don't know what you're talking about.

I warned everyone that they shouldn't use the FA Roster in MyCareer Mode or Association since it'll cause problems because of 2k's logic.

Nah, Hawk'll go batshit crazy when somebody "steals" stuff thats included in his project.


1. ok. idk. when i played association mode, like half of them ended up in free agency at the beginning of the second season. might be something jacked up with my personal settings causing teams to release them. my bad.

2. ohhhhh. i misread that part.

3. hahahahahahaha. lmao. i know this all too well. i'll just keep using it on my personal edition. no-one else probably cares anyways. lolz.


Guys, I realise you don't see eye-to-eye with HAWK23 on this one, but stirring the pot isn't cool. Please leave it be.

Sorry, my fault. Won't happen again :wink:
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Re: Kevin's Realistic Roster v4.0 Released!

Postby Kevin on Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:28 pm

I'll be releasing v2 of the FA Roster with all the transactions implemented. Stay tuned.
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