NovU wrote: Let me show you your own double standard. You are the guy that likes to go by ON/OFF stats especially on defense. Check out Tyson Chandler's stats.
I did acknowledge his contributions as an offensive rebounder, extra possessions are always a good thing. Doesn't make him a great scorer, despite good efficiency or someone that's "easy to play with" on the offensive end.
NovU wrote:This is just getting silly. All this talk over silly stinker Jrue and perennial allstar Rondo.
I won't get into this further but point out a few things. And no, in no way you will change my mind about Jrue and Rondo with all these fantasia/fictitious stories based on pretty much nonsensical support, lol.
The only fictional things about this discussion are the mythical impact of minimizing your weaknesses - even at the cost of being very passive and encouraging defenders to sag way off - and Holiday hurting the offense of his team when it clearly benefits from his presence.
NovU wrote:You can't be serious with this. Look up the definition of AST% and TOV%. How does this your own invention AST%/TO% tell us anything? For what purpose are you doing a mathematical division with these two numbers meaninglessly.
First, you knock me for using raw APG numbers to disprove that Holiday doesn't create anything for his teammates. AST%/TOV% takes into account the number of possessions a player has, which AST/TO doesn't. But that doesn't go together with your theories, so of course it's wrong.
NovU wrote:It's because... Stockton becomes relevant if we go by your magnificent invention AST%/TO% (ala fake narratives you created in this silly discussions).
The thing is, I only "invented" it because you felt like judging a point guard by his AST/TO ratio when the quality of the offense he leads is a much more important thing. Which leads to...
NovU wrote:Is this a joke?
...this exact question I've had in mind all this time I've been reading about how the Celtics having the 4th worst offense in the league in 2012 was the fault of... well, everybody but the super amazing point guard while all sings point to said everybody doing their jobs very well. The Celtics playing better after said point guard got injured last season was probably a hallucination since you never addressed it. Also, not penalizing defenses for sagging off you and clogging the paint all they want/double teaming efficient scorers on your team is not a bad thing at all because it minimizes weaknesses. Did you say something about fake narratives and fantasy stories?