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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby shadowgrin on Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:40 pm

To those who placed Dirk above KG or Barkley in their list, why? What are you smoking? At least X admitted his Euro love.
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby NovU on Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:48 pm

So placing Dirk above Karl Malone is legit to you then?

I don't see why not. Dirk's stats are just as awesome. And he also has the Finals MVP trophy, beetch.
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:49 am

NovU wrote:So placing Dirk above Karl Malone is legit to you then?

The only poster who placed Dirk above Malone was Lamrock and he did said that his list was half-assed. His other half probably drunk again.


NovU wrote:Dirk's stats are just as awesome. And he also has the Finals MVP trophy, beetch.

O rly?

Barkley has similar if not better stats than Dirk despite Sir Churles being only a 6'5" PF. Officially he's 6'6, most believe he's 6'4, I chose 6'5 because he's taller than Wade in a commercial they did. Unless Wade is actually 6'3 and not 6'4.

KG may not have the stats that Barkley or Dirk has but KG is a better all-around player and played both ends of the floor very well.

Didn't follow the prime 7 years. I used Dirk's latest season as a cutoff because it is the season where most of you only realized that you love Dirk, so 13 seasons.
If the Mavs didn't win it all, none of you would be even placing him in your top 5. :?
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:15 pm

shadowgrin wrote:If the Mavs didn't win it all, none of you would be even placing him in your top 5. :?


Possibly, but looking back at his career numbers he had a decent shot of making the top five even before this year. The 2011 Finals certainly does raise awareness of him and his career accomplishments, though.
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby The X on Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:16 pm

Andrew wrote:
shadowgrin wrote:If the Mavs didn't win it all, none of you would be even placing him in your top 5. :?


Possibly, but looking back at his career numbers he had a decent shot of making the top five even before this year. The 2011 Finals certainly does raise awareness of him and his career accomplishments, though.

Agreed, regardless of the championship I would've put him in top 5.

To me there is Duncan in class of his own, then Malone & Barkley, then Garnett & Dirk & then the rest of the guys from 6 through 13.
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby Mavs4Life on Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:18 am

shadowgrin wrote:KG may not have the stats that Dirk has but KG is a better all-around player and played both ends of the floor very well.



Why he's above on my list. KG can do it alll on both ends, while DIrk is much more offensive in my mind.
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby NovU on Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:30 am

grin...

only if that midget pf and foul mouthed kg had hair like dirk... :cheeky:
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby x-uNdErRaTeD-z on Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:31 am

1.Tim Duncan
2.Malone
3.Barkley
4.KG
5.Dirk
6.McHale
7.Rodman
8.Gasol
9.Webber
10.Kemp/Stoudemire

I'll post descriptions later.
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rayallen20 wrote:What if you let them play a real game? 5 on 5?

The former team (Walker-Rose-Pedja-Anderson-Fisher) would vaporize the latter team off the face of the earth. They have gobs of rings, the latter team has one ring combined. Anyone who doesn't have a ring is worthless especially compared to those who won rings.

Real basketball fans know this, anyone with a ring is better than anyone without one automatically.

Learn about the game already, maybe you could try watching it to start.
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby Andrew on Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:24 pm

Rasheed Wallace is an honourable mention that I forgot about when I was compiling my list (unless we're considering him a centre for these lists, in which case he'll be an honourable mention for me on that list).
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby rise on Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:56 am

Time to get started on centers?
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:17 am

Ben hasn't posted his list yet, but I've got my list of centres ready to go whenever that topic is started.
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby Lamrock on Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:38 am

Here's my quick top 5:

1. Charles Barkley (86-93) - Yeah, yeah, Tim Duncan may be the best PF ever but not in my books. While Duncan was an excellent offensive player, he was really a dominant player on the other hand. Meanwhile, Barkley was an incredible, unstoppable offensive force during the last 80's and early 90's and did so while listed at 6'6" with shoes on (and standing on a deck of cards, rounded up)
2. Tim Duncan (00-07) - A victim of the lockout and an untimely injury, I had to start his prime with the 00-01 season, and Barkley's numbers beat his in my book. Duncan is nonetheless the popular #1 and is one of the best players the game has ever seen.
3. Dirk Nowitzki (00-07) - It's hard to think of Dirk, defending Finals MVP, as past his prime, but as arguably the decade's most consistent superstar (03 class didn't play 00-03 and Duncan started to go downhill after his last title), and a game changing player, I have to give him the nod over the Mailman.
4. Karl Malone (93-00) - Malone was awesome, though he's hurt by the chicken (Malone) or the egg (Stockton) argument as well as seven years not encapsulating his brilliance.
5. Kevin Garnett (01-08) - KG was a superstar on both ends of the court and had himself more than one MVP-caliber season.

Bad list with inconsistent, nonsensical justifications, but I like it. (Y)
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby NovU on Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:38 am

Me too. I like it more than your first half-assed list. And you are the first to place someone else other than Tim Duncan on top.
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby Oznogrd on Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:49 am

I'm surprised Lamrock didnt do a list that said

"I was gonna list the best power forwards, but you've never heard of them"
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby rise on Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:22 pm

lol I half expected him to list only Blazer power forwards. :lol:
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby [Q] on Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:00 pm

or sonics power forwards. i think barkley does have a case to be higher on a lot of peoples' lists. i mean they created that 5 second back down rule because of people like him
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby shadowgrin on Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:31 pm

Qballer wrote:i think barkley does have a case to be higher on a lot of peoples' lists. i mean they created that 5 second back down rule because of people like him

Mark Jackson. Yeah, that one coaching the Warriors.
He was also a one-time All-Star and the inspiration for the unofficially named "Mark Jackson rule," which dictates that players can't back down their defender for more than five seconds on the perimeter.
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby x-uNdErRaTeD-z on Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:10 pm

He was also a one-time All-Star and the inspiration for the unofficially named "Mark Jackson rule," which dictates that players can't back down their defender for more than five seconds on the perimeter.

Shadowgrin strikes again!

@Lamrock Duncan has 4 champion rings, Barkley has 0. Duncan wins no matter the situation. Don't you know the memo already? If a player has championship, then he is automatically better than anyone who doesn't!
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rayallen20 wrote:What if you let them play a real game? 5 on 5?

The former team (Walker-Rose-Pedja-Anderson-Fisher) would vaporize the latter team off the face of the earth. They have gobs of rings, the latter team has one ring combined. Anyone who doesn't have a ring is worthless especially compared to those who won rings.

Real basketball fans know this, anyone with a ring is better than anyone without one automatically.

Learn about the game already, maybe you could try watching it to start.
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby NovU on Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:50 pm

YEAH!

That's why Robert Horry tops basketball noobs like Tim Duncan or Charles Barkley in my unofficial list. What noobs. Can u beat 6?
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby _Steve_ on Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:51 pm

Robert Horry would surely be on my top-five-role-players-list...
Anyway I really like Chuck, but #1 should be Tim Duncan. In that case rings make the difference.
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby x-uNdErRaTeD-z on Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:56 pm

NovU wrote:YEAH!

That's why Robert Horry tops basketball noobs like Tim Duncan or Charles Barkley in my unofficial list. What noobs. Can u beat 6?

Hah :lol:

@SteveHTOWN
Ever heard of a guy named Michael Jordan?
He pretty much crushed Chuck's chances at winning a championship.
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rayallen20 wrote:What if you let them play a real game? 5 on 5?

The former team (Walker-Rose-Pedja-Anderson-Fisher) would vaporize the latter team off the face of the earth. They have gobs of rings, the latter team has one ring combined. Anyone who doesn't have a ring is worthless especially compared to those who won rings.

Real basketball fans know this, anyone with a ring is better than anyone without one automatically.

Learn about the game already, maybe you could try watching it to start.
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby _Steve_ on Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:22 am

x-uNdErRaTeD-z wrote:@SteveHTOWN
Ever heard of a guy named Michael Jordan?
He pretty much crushed Chuck's chances at winning a championship.


The 2002 finals were the first basketball games I've watched on tv, so yes... I heard of this guy. ;)
Chuck still had his chances, MJ retired... several times. But I agree, that Chuck in his prime had his nemesis. He should've won that damned ring with the Rockets...
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby Andrew on Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:10 am

The Rockets really only had a decent shot at the title in 1997, where Stockton ruined the party in the Western Conference Finals. After that, age and injuries took too much of a toll on their big three.
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby koberulz on Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:06 am

NovU wrote:YEAH!

That's why Robert Horry tops basketball noobs like Tim Duncan or Charles Barkley in my unofficial list. What noobs. Can u beat 6?

Horry has seven.
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Re: Greatest Of The Three Point Era: Power Forward

Postby Axel The Great on Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:05 pm

Andrew wrote:The Rockets really only had a decent shot at the title in 1997, where Stockton ruined the party in the Western Conference Finals. After that, age and injuries took too much of a toll on their big three.

You forgot to add the part (since you're a Bulls fan) when even if they would have got past the Jazz, there was still Jordan and Pippen to go through. Nobody ever did go through Jordan and Pippen in the Finals. :| Still would've been a great matchup.
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