2k9 or 2k10 on single core computers?

[Leander]

Some reviews say that 2k10 has similar hardware requirements as 2k9. I can run 2k10 but only on low settings. It looks bad and there are also some glitches. I also own 2k9 but don't want to install it for nothing...that's why I ask. Will 2k9 run better on my computer or not?

My system: PIV 3.2 ghz, WinXP SP3, 2.5 GB Ram, ATI Radeon HD 3650 1 GB.

[Kaaba]

On my......

Intel Q8200 Quad Core @2.33 GHz
ATI Radeon HD 4850 HD
3 GB RAM
Windows VISTA Home Premium 32-Bit

with the highest Graphicsettings, NBA2K10 needs approximley 7-10 % more power to run smooth compared to NBA2K9.

[Patr1ck]

It should run a little better. You still won't get to put player detail to ultra high until you get a dual core cpu, though. That extra core is needed to run the jersey cloth simulations while keeping a steady frame rate.

[Eich]

My system: PIV 3.2 ghz, WinXP SP3, 2.5 GB Ram, ATI Radeon HD 3650 1 GB.

Lol youre kidding me right?
i have like PIV 3.2ghz, Win7, 2 GB Ram, ATI Radeon HD 3650 512mb
and i can run the game on everything high (players medium, anti aliasing off) and get 25 fps.. currently Im playing on medium settings and have 40fps

[Leander]

25 FPS? Way too slow for me. I play on low settings and have 68 FPS. I am not going to play a game below 50 FPS.

[NastyNacho1]

My system: PIV 3.2 ghz

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Come on now get up to Dual Core at least

thats your bottleneck

[Eich]

not everyone has the resources to upgrade.. like for me, if i get a dual core i need a new motherboard + new RAM + ne PSU.

[NastyNacho1]

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[NastyNacho1]

Did it work

Any of those ideas?

[*RAGE*StC]

go into your saves and go into the config.cfg then replace with these config
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_0 = 1
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_1 = 2
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_2 = -1
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_3 = -1
i found this on 2k sports..it was supposed to be for a dual core..but i tried it anyway...and let me tell you what i run
Msi not really sure of specifics...i have 1.65 ghz which really sucks..i dont even have a 4 processor and i only have a radion HD 2400
Video card which isn't great at all...and when i ran these settings i put everything on high except for msaa so don't mess with that..when i did this my game runs as smooth as it did when all setting's were on low...try it for your self...hope this help's

[MadbaLL]

My system: PIV 3.2 ghz, WinXP SP3, 2.5 GB Ram, ATI Radeon HD 3650 1 GB.

Lol youre kidding me right?
i have like PIV 3.2ghz, Win7, 2 GB Ram, ATI Radeon HD 3650 512mb
and i can run the game on everything high (players medium, anti aliasing off) and get 25 fps.. currently Im playing on medium settings and have 40fps

25fps is not playable at all... 40 fps is minimum for playing the game...

2k9 runs better then 2k10... i have pentium D 2.66ghz dual core, 2gb ram, 9400gt and i only get 23fps on medium-low settings in 2k10 which is disaster...

[MadbaLL]

go into your saves and go into the config.cfg then replace with these config
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_0 = 1
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_1 = 2
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_2 = -1
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_3 = -1
i found this on 2k sports..it was supposed to be for a dual core..but i tried it anyway...and let me tell you what i run
Msi not really sure of specifics...i have 1.65 ghz which really sucks..i dont even have a 4 processor and i only have a radion HD 2400
Video card which isn't great at all...and when i ran these settings i put everything on high except for msaa so don't mess with that..when i did this my game runs as smooth as it did when all setting's were on low...try it for your self...hope this help's

does this change of settings really works? i read it doesn't help at all...

[Patr1ck]

People have used alot of different numbers for that part. I think some of it is placebo because we really don't know what it does. Speculation leaves me to assume that you can multithread the "cloth logic" or the threads for animated jerseys, or that the numbers are supposed to refer to your cpu cores, or even your videocard's gpu. The default is 1 for thread_0, and the rest at -1, but try anything from 0-2 for thread_1 and see if anything is different.

Last year I tried enabling all the threads with 1, or 1,2,1,2. The only thing I saw was a slightly slower framerate(since I was already running at 60 fps without changing it) and some worse looking jersey animations in some places. On the contrary, many people used wither 1,2 or even 0,1 and it improved the frame rate. Most of those people had AMD dual core processors.

[shadowgrin]

Or you can just turn it off by making all -1

[tnt23]

2K10 takes more ressources than 2K9

and to me that tweak aint placebo...i gained 10 fps at least in P4 at 3.2 hyperthreading 2 cores

[shadowgrin]

(Fraps) evidence plz.

[MadbaLL]

i remember the patch for 2k9 helped me a lot with the fps... i got more fps after installing the patch... i hope the same case will be with 2k10 pc patch...

in the meantime, what do you suggest on how to set up that config file for my cpu? it's pentium D dual core 2.66ghz.

[tnt23]

Shadow : fraps evidence was for me ??

now u tell me how is fraps gonna show if the tweak is on or not ?

i aint got time to waste and i aint got nothing to prove...

i might not have 9000 posts... (maybe because i dont hit the reply button just for the sake of it) but im just reporting my experience on old cpu with good graphic card ...so u can take my word for it or make the test for yourself

Madball : it helped me a lot in 2K9 also...and this year i did the before/after fps test (sorry no useless screenschots) and i can confirm again it aint no placebo for my setup

CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_0 = 1
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_1 = 2
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_2 = -1
CLOTH_LOGICAL_THREAD_3 = -1

this is what i did

u should notice the difference

[shadowgrin]

Shadow : fraps evidence was for me ??

Not only you but others who claim to have increased fps after changing those settings.

now u tell me how is fraps gonna show if the tweak is on or not ?

It's trying to verify the "increased fps" that's being raved about. Fraps cares less if it helps multi-threading, it just measures fps, which we are interested to know if there's really an effect or increase.
Set the settings in the config to the default (unedited), run fraps or any other software that takes fps, play the game, take a screenshot, exit the game.
Next, set the settings in the config to the one that all of you say that will increase fps, run fraps or similar software, play the game, take a screenshot.
That easy.

i aint got time to waste and i aint got nothing to prove...

I'm not saying you or the others are liars.
I'm sure everyone wants to see (and are hoping) that the 'tweak' actually works. Doing the test and showing proof is one way to really show that it actually works.

i might not have 9000 posts... (maybe because i dont hit the reply button just for the sake of it) but im just reporting my experience on old cpu with good graphic card ...so u can take my word for it or make the test for yourself

See my previous statement, and are you guys really that insecure as to make a trivial comment about someone who has a higher post count?
I could care less about post count or others' post count, if they post something and can back it up, I'm convinced whether that person has only one post or if he calls me an pwned bitch.

Don't cop out by posting statements like "i aint got time to waste and i aint got nothing to prove" and "sorry no useless screeschots". If you or the others have time to post statements that the tweak works, or in your case reply to someone who has 9000 posts, then I guess all of you have the time to verify and show proof that it acutally works.

[tnt23]

lol so i guess u didnt get my point....

look up the definition of evidence... what kinda proof is that to post 2 screens : one at 30 and one at 40 .... it prooves nothing so u might as well take my word for it

maybe for some people who have high end pc or very low end pc, it changes nothing...but for me it does

there is really no need to back it up or question it ...just try yourself...and if u notice nothing...leave it as is... and if u do...U CAN CREATE some evidence=proof....= make a video with no cut showing u edit the file and running 2 fraps test...then U can call that evidence....on YOUR PC !

now that kind of real evidence or proof, probably might only be done by someone who has plenty of time like someone who has 9000 post maybe;)

I'm sure everyone wants to run the test for themselve and not base their final judgement on 2 screenschots that wouldnt prove anything....

IF your are so sceptical of my word and other's, arent' you afraid we might post 2 false fraps screens ? like say one with every on high and then one with everything at low ....

who is the insecure paranoied one ?

i was just trying to talk some common sense into you... guess i failed...

jeez its not like i invented this tweak or its anything new...

nuff time wasted on you or the subject;)

till we meet again ...hope u can run the test yourself (takes 2 minutes) and think about how PROOFLESS making 2 screenshots are

[*RAGE*StC]

Hey shadowgrin i tried to do a video for you to show you up close.... however i was using hyper cam and it was making the game run slow....i then tried to use fraps and that made the game run slow...sorry brother i tried.

[shadowgrin]

Even if fraps was slowing your game down, having all the in-game graphical settings equal/same with and without the tweak, the 'improvement' or difference will show in the fps measurement.

look up the definition of evidence...

Sure. Google search. First result

Evidence in its broadest sense includes everything that is used to determine or demonstrate the truth of an assertion. Giving or procuring evidence is the process of using those things that are either a) presumed to be true, or b) were themselves proven via evidence, to demonstrate an assertion's truth.

What were you (guys) asserting again?

what kinda proof is that to post 2 screens : one at 30 and one at 40 .... it prooves nothing so u might as well take my word for it

True, that's (a screenshot) not enough but fraps does have a function where it can measure the avg. fps
Backing up the visual with that numerical data can be sufficient to dismiss it as merely a placebo effect and a high probability that it does work.

I'm sure everyone wants to run the test for themselve and not base their final judgement on 2 screenschots that wouldnt prove anything....

Agree, but gathering such evidence/proof/data can show which settings are optimal since most of us in one way or another have different system specs.
Also to know which specific setting/change/value has a greater effect in improving fps as there seems to be some confusion on what values to put there (1? 2? 3? 4?).

maybe for some people who have high end pc or very low end pc, it changes nothing...but for me it does

I know. You already said it:

and to me that tweak aint placebo...i gained 10 fps at least in P4 at 3.2 hyperthreading 2 cores

this year i did the before/after fps test (sorry no useless screenschots) and i can confirm again it aint no placebo for my setup

See previous statement, specifically the second sentence.

done by someone who has plenty of time like someone who has 9000 post maybe;)

You really are obsessed with my post count aren't you?

IF your are so sceptical of my word and other's, arent' you afraid we might post 2 false fraps screens ? like say one with every on high and then one with everything at low ....

I don't think that you or anyone are even that low. If you or anyone are willing to do that, then I can say that you/they fail at life.

i was just trying to talk some common sense into you... guess i failed...

Jeez, then why are you so defensive when I ask for some screenshots/fps data?

[Uncle Drew]

My system: PIV 3.2 ghz

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Come on now get up to Dual Core at least

thats your bottleneck

What's PIV ??

[truSt]

Pentium 4, basically a 6 year old processor.

[ahcoy]

My Computer is weak.

Windows XP SP3
2GB of RAM
2.3GHz Dual Core Processor 4400+
NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT(inno3d) 1Gb

But I play the game with resolution of 1024*768.
ALL settings are HIGH. No LAGS or HANGS happens. AMAZING!