Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

[Lean]

+1 section restriction?

[Andrew]

Play it by ear.

In any case, Bob Barker's appearance sounded like it came off pretty well. Will have to give it a look tomorrow.

[jettdaking!]

Anyone object to another section-ban on Mikeman?

lol.

I GOT 2 WORDS FOR YA!!!....

SECTION BAN!

[Christian.]

Mike Man strikes again.

[Andrew]

Caught RAW this afternoon, good show though I'm not all that interested in the WWE title picture at the moment as I'm bored of Orton vs Cena. DX is still alright, but severely limited by the PG approach. I'm still quite liking the work of MVP. I hesitate to make comparisons with The Rock because he's not at that level yet in any aspect of the business but he can put on a good match, he's definitely over and does remind me a little of The Rock early in his career in that it took a while for his gimmick to properly come together and for him to be truly taken seriously, but now he's got a lot of potential.

His finisher is a bit contrived though, I think to be a main eventer a wrestler needs a finisher that doesn't involve quite as long a setup and can come out of nowhere. I think MVP could main event though, he's a much better candidate than Kennedy would've been.

[Christian.]

I hope after Breaking Point RAW will be showcasing a new set of feud. Enough of Cena-Orton please.

Marking for MVP.

[Andrew]

If done right, they can give him a main event push slowly but surely. John Cena's original main event push would be a good example, that was done quite well and he was successfully over as a face that people wanted to see take the title from JBL; though to be fair at that point, I think a lot of people would've settled for Steve Lombardi aka The Brooklyn Brawler aka Knuckleball Schwartz aka at Doink the Clown (at one point) winning the championship from JBL. And then came the spinner belt and Superman booking, with Cena not able to fully get over as a face and irritating smarks ever since.

[Christian.]

Exactly. Well, I hope the creative team/Vince know how valuable MVP is.

[J@3]

SPOILERS!

SmackDown: (Airing Friday)
* The Undertaker comes out for the opening pyro. The crowd is ecstatic. He says he'll beat CM Punk Sunday at Breaking Point. Punk comes out and says Undertaker is "Alice In Wonderland." He goes on to say that Undertaker is a liar and he'll make him tap. CM Punk vs. Matt Hardy is announced for later tonight.

* Finlay b. Mike Knox in a Belfast Brawl
- Several weapons such as trash cans were used. Finlay got the win after hitting Knox with his shillelagh.

* Michelle McCool is backstage groping Dolph Ziggler. Layla records it with her cell phone. CM Punk vs. Matt Hardy is shown as a submission match.

* DH Smith vs. Kane
- The match doesn't even get started as Kane jumps Khali as soon as he gets in the ring. Khali fights him off.

* Chris Jericho & Big Show are shown backstage. They're up next.

* Chris Jericho & Big Show b. Cryme Tyme
- Jericho got the win by pinning JTG for the three-count.

* Vince McMahon & Teddy Long are shown backstage. Vince says Teddy is still on probation and he wants something excellent for him this Sunday at Breaking Point.

* John Morrison b. Charlie Haas
- Morrison got the win with his Starship Pain finisher. After the match Morrison thanks Rey Mysterio for the footage of him winning last week. He says anytime he wants a re-match, he'll get one. Dolph Ziggler comes out and says he wants a title match. Morrison tells him they can do it right now. Ziggler declines and Morrison calls him "Mr. Ziggles." The crowd chants "Mr. Ziggles." Dolph exits ringside.

* Matt Hardy is backstage with Josh Mathews. He says he'll make CM Punk submit tonight and then Undertaker will beat him on Sunday.

* Layla w/Michelle McCool b. Melina

* Josh Mathews is backstage with R-Truth. Truth says he wants an actual match with Drew McIntyre. McIntyre jumps Truth and leaves him laying.

* Jim Ross & Todd Grisham are in the ring hyping Sunday's Breaking Point pay-per-view.

* CM Punk b. Matt Hardy in the main event by getting Hardy to submit. This ends this week's SmackDown.

i hope they give matt the well-needed push...

ECW On SyFy: (Airing Tonight)* The Abraham Washington show is up first. Abe's mic keeps cutting out and a staffer comes out to fix it. Tony Atlas laughs at ringside. His mic continues to not work so he gives up and leaves. ECW begins.

* The opening pyro hits followed by a video promo for Hurricane. He comes out to a good pop.

* Hurricane b. Paul Burchill
- Long opening match with lots of back and forth action.

* Christian & Tommy Dreamer are shown backstage.

* Shelton Benjamin & Sheamus b. Goldust & Yoshi Tatsu
- Shelton got the win with the pinfall on Goldust.

* Zack Ryder b. A Local Jobber in a squash match.

* A WWE Breaking Point promo video is shown.

* William Regal promo backstage with Tiffany.

* Vladimir Kozlov & Ezekiel Jackson b. Christian & Tommy Dreamer after Ezekiel got the pin. William Regal hits the ring after the match and stretches Dreamer. He kicks Christian in the head as the trio stands tall in the ring to close the show.

[Christian.]

Man you should have used the spoiler code.

[Al Ka Pwn]

Yeah, please use the spoiler code. I like watching the shows to see the results.

And about finishers. I don't get why they don't use legends to pass on their moves to new guys or something like that. Like show a training vignette of the 2 guys working on the move and voila. Almost anything is an improvement over the playmaker.

[Lean]

Now if that previous link about the new belt design will really push through, I'm hoping it would appear after Breaking Point.

And c'mon, I'm already missing the Unforgiven name.

[Null17]

Anyone hear about the Big Show-Khali fight? Seems like Show tried to throw the first punch and Khali blocked it "like how he does on TV".

[Al Ka Pwn]

It was over the shhh chop to the chest in the corner move. Apparently Big Show got a sandy vagina due to The Great Khali stealing his shit and tried to punch Khali who caught his fist matrix style. I also heard that during the kerfuffle Show slipped on a bag and got mounted by Khali who then proceeded to slap Show around like a little girl till it was broken up. As if I didn't like Khali enough already. lol.

And c'mon, I'm already missing the Unforgiven name.

Yeah, me too. There's also going to be a ppv called tables, ladders and chairs. These recent namechanges are not very good.

[Lean]

There's also going to be a ppv called tables, ladders and chairs.

The fuck?



This needs to stop. Now Armageddon's gone too.

[Andrew]

And about finishers. I don't get why they don't use legends to pass on their moves to new guys or something like that. Like show a training vignette of the 2 guys working on the move and voila. Almost anything is an improvement over the playmaker.

I suppose the new guys want to make a name for themselves with something more original but I kind of like the idea all the same. As you said, better anything than the Playmaker.

Anyone hear about the Big Show-Khali fight? Seems like Show tried to throw the first punch and Khali blocked it "like how he does on TV".

I did. According to this report it was over a botch, which isn't surprising when it comes to Khali.

On the subject of name changes, it looks like TLC is replacing Survivor Series, though it could just be a mistake. I certainly hope it's just a screw-up on WWE.com's part, it's one thing to rename the B-level PPVs but the Big Four PPVs should be left alone. Of course, Survivor Series isn't quite what it used to be with all the elimination matches, save for one or two to serve as somewhat of a link to the traditional format of the card.

[Al Ka Pwn]

Oh, it was over a botch. That might have been like the final straw, but I am sure Khali stealing the chop in the corner didn't make Show a happy camper to begin with.

[Andrew]

You're probably right.

Looks like the PPV listing on WWE.com was a mistake and Survivor Series is not being renamed or replaced while Armageddon has become Tables, Ladders and Chairs. Better it get renamed after a gimmick match than Survivor Series, though I still don't much care for the change.

[Lean]

Badass PPV names no more.

[Andrew]

Bring back King of the Ring.

[Null17]

Oh, it was over a botch. That might have been like the final straw, but I am sure Khali stealing the chop in the corner didn't make Show a happy camper to begin with.

From what I heard, it was similar to that. About Khali using moves that Show felt should be exclusively his as a "giant".

[Al Ka Pwn]

Bring back King of the Ring.

KOTR has given us so many awesome ppvs. Everytime I hear the name, I have to think about Owen falling to his death though for some reason.

[deihatein]

The heck with a PPV being named TLC? I don't like the idea, especially if every match on the card will be a TLC.

[Null17]

I'm just waiting for WWE Tag Team, WWE Cage Match and WWE Lumberjack.

[Lean]

And WWE Singles too.