Andre Miller To Join The Blazers

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Re: Andre Miller To Join The Blazers

Postby air gordon on Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:49 pm

i was thinking the "half court" style playing Portland was looking for a PG who could stretch the defense and hit 3pters/defend well... none of which are Andre Miller's strengths

maybe PHilly could use hinrich now haha
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Re: Andre Miller To Join The Blazers

Postby Lamrock on Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:14 am

This won't make the Blazers a better regular season team, but it will improve their chances in the playoffs, as the predictability of their offense was exposed this year against Houston.
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Re: Andre Miller To Join The Blazers

Postby Hedonist on Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:46 am

The X wrote:I will admit that the 'Dre signing is a lot better than the attempted Hedo & Millsap signings....at least Miller fills a need & makes everybody else better....I think KP dodged a bullet with Hedo doing the bolt....still don't understand how you give Hedo a 5 year deal but won't give Roy one :?

Besides that I disagree to me it is obvious: they had to sign a FA first to use the cap space left, now that is out of the way the extensions can be adressed.
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Re: Andre Miller To Join The Blazers

Postby The X on Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:22 am

Hedonist, I am very aware that common sense means you use your available cap space to sign free agents then re-sign your own players to extensions. The thing is you can make agreements in principle that get signed after all the other stuff is sorted. Brandon Roy is the franchise & they don't seem willing to give him a 5 year deal due to injury concerns but they offered an above average 30 year old one. That was my argument. Seems like strange logic to me, that's all.
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Re: Andre Miller To Join The Blazers

Postby Lamrock on Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:28 am

Hedo is very slightly below average.
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Re: Andre Miller To Join The Blazers

Postby Hedonist on Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:43 am

The X wrote:Hedonist, I am very aware that common sense means you use your available cap space to sign free agents then re-sign your own players to extensions. The thing is you can make agreements in principle that get signed after all the other stuff is sorted. Brandon Roy is the franchise & they don't seem willing to give him a 5 year deal due to injury concerns but they offered an above average 30 year old one. That was my argument. Seems like strange logic to me, that's all.

Maybe you know more than I do, I only read one report on it with those quotes of Roy and I took it with a big pile of salt.

The 5 year offer for Turkoglu was a smart move, that goes without saying. :D
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Re: Andre Miller To Join The Blazers

Postby Calamaro on Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:06 am

Are you being sarcastic? They already had 3 young small forwards. And they guy is 30 years old. He's not getting any younger and he's not going to improve his game. I think Miller is better that Turkoglu (for Portland)
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Re: Andre Miller To Join The Blazers

Postby The X on Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:16 am

He's a Turkoglu fan, he's not being sarcastic.
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Re: Andre Miller To Join The Blazers

Postby Lamrock on Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:34 am

He is trying to make Hedo the new Darko. The Hedo signing would have destroyed the Blazer's title hopes, and has essentially subscribed Toronto to half a decade of mediocrity. In actuality, Turkoglu deserved an MLE contract with decreases each year.
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Re: Andre Miller To Join The Blazers

Postby Hedonist on Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:44 am

Calamaro wrote:Are you being sarcastic? They already had 3 young small forwards. And they guy is 30 years old. He's not getting any younger and he's not going to improve his game. I think Miller is better that Turkoglu (for Portland)

What The X says and the lockjam on SF is another thing. Trade away two for starting caliber PG (could've even been Miller in S&T I suppose).

This way you add experience and leadership to the team. It's way better than three talents fighting for minutes imo. At least if you want to compete on the short term that is. If you want to keep developing your talent and reap the benefits later than I think you make different decisions.

The debate about age is getting old. It's fine if people think Turkoglu is average imo or overpaid but 30 is not old in the NBA. 33 isn't either. 35 is getting there. Turkoglu is not known for athleticism or speed, but ball handling and decision making, aspects of the game in which older players do very well.
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Re: Andre Miller To Join The Blazers

Postby Hedonist on Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:51 am

Lamrock wrote:He is trying to make Hedo the new Darko. The Hedo signing would have destroyed the Blazer's title hopes, and has essentially subscribed Toronto to half a decade of mediocrity. In actuality, Turkoglu deserved an MLE contract with decreases each year.

I'm not trying to do anything, let alone make myself ridiculous. Ahum.

Three teams offered much higher contracts - not to mention that most teams didn't have the chance if they wanted to - nuff said. Toronto will be fine. Allthough I know for a fact that you take the term mediocre lightly so maybe I just differ with you on that one because of semantics, can't tell.
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