GOODBYE NLSC..GOODLUCK WITH THE UPCOMING GAME..

[Maverick]

I think the default shorts have a perfect size for me, if we compare with real life.

If TP fix the size for the shirt, will be fantastic.

i think he should release a global with those inflated jerseys to. just for the entertainment value

That would be perfect for The Hunchback of Notre-Dame mod.

[zz21]

I think the default shorts have a perfect size for me, if we compare with real life.

If TP fix the size for the shirt, will be fantastic.

i think he should release a global with those inflated jerseys to. just for the entertainment value

That would be perfect for The Hunchback of Notre-Dame mod.

i would... if i didnt have like 4 other mods im working on right now lol

[Maverick]

I think the default shorts have a perfect size for me, if we compare with real life.

If TP fix the size for the shirt, will be fantastic.

i think he should release a global with those inflated jerseys to. just for the entertainment value

That would be perfect for The Hunchback of Notre-Dame mod.

i would... if i didnt have like 4 other mods im working on right now lol

Can't imagine that happening. I'mma laugh my effin arse playing that. MGX should include it in his mod.

[seanbarkley]

Great find TP!I wish u the best with this!

How have u gotten to do that? have you hex edited some value in the file?

just hex editing..these cloth files is too complicated.

Have you tried to compare those cloth file values you changed with the ones that retro teams have (those which have tight jerseys)?? Maybe you find a pattern there...

which retro team jerseys do u mean? I think they are still the same paper looking just with shorter shorts aren t they?

90's teams are the same with shorter shorts, but 50's, 60's and 70's jerseys are tight and imo look much better.

maybe so, but look at the armhole and there is no jersey movement there

I know those are not perfect bro, but at least don't float over the players shoulders...

Cam almost finds a workaround to make classic jerseys work with current shorts, but sadly it produced a glitch in the shorts. Shame because it looked great IMO...



If you want more info here¡s the link to the thread: http://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopic.php?f=153&t=94032

ill work on it again tomorrow..what is the cloth file for the retro jerseys?

I think it was cloth_classic or cloth_retro or something like that in last year's game, I'll check tomorrow if u want.

[tatlopuyo]

Great find TP!I wish u the best with this!

How have u gotten to do that? have you hex edited some value in the file?

just hex editing..these cloth files is too complicated.

Have you tried to compare those cloth file values you changed with the ones that retro teams have (those which have tight jerseys)?? Maybe you find a pattern there...

which retro team jerseys do u mean? I think they are still the same paper looking just with shorter shorts aren t they?

90's teams are the same with shorter shorts, but 50's, 60's and 70's jerseys are tight and imo look much better.

maybe so, but look at the armhole and there is no jersey movement there

I know those are not perfect bro, but at least don't float over the players shoulders...

Cam almost finds a workaround to make classic jerseys work with current shorts, but sadly it produced a glitch in the shorts. Shame because it looked great IMO...



If you want more info here¡s the link to the thread: http://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopic.php?f=153&t=94032

ill work on it again tomorrow..what is the cloth file for the retro jerseys?

I think it was cloth_classic or cloth_retro or something like that in last year's game, I'll check tomorrow if u want.

i also experienced what happened to that rose shorts when i try to sink and make the jerseys tighter yesterday.

[-scarface-]

....then i guess tight jerseys in high settings are..


just started messing around with the cloth files..ill try to reverse that effect..

try reversing this... u made them bigger so it means it's possible to reverse this process and make them tighter with movement, and also could you leave shorts as they are, because shorts are spot on, just make tighter the jersey.

hope you can make this one bro

[Maverick]

TP, any teasers? Tease us!

[zz21]

[tatlopuyo]

update: no previews or teasers but i already found the location to change the sizes of the jerseys..need someone who is really good in hex to help me coz its not only 1 value to change for it to work.

[bigh0rt]

update: no previews or teasers but i already found the location to change the sizes of the jerseys..need someone who is really good in hex to help me coz its not only 1 value to change for it to work.

exrxixxx is a pretty boss hex editor. Maybe he can help you.

[JaoSming]

heyo! post the info, I'd love a shot at it and I'm sure others might too

[tatlopuyo]

heyo! post the info, I'd love a shot at it and I'm sure others might too

ok here...start from this offset -------> 000052fc

those values that changes the jersey sizes are with the 41 in the end..for example and these so far are the ones i tried that changes the look of the jersey 00002041 and CD CC 4C 41

theres a lot of values there.goodluck.

[-scarface-]

heyo! post the info, I'd love a shot at it and I'm sure others might too

ok here...start from this offset -------> 000052fc

those values that changes the jersey sizes are with the 41 in the end..for example and these so far are the ones i tried that changes the look of the jersey 00002041 and CD CC 4C 41

theres a lot of values there.goodluck.

I might have a look at this too,
tatlopuyo, are leaving the project?

[tatlopuyo]

heyo! post the info, I'd love a shot at it and I'm sure others might too

ok here...start from this offset -------> 000052fc

those values that changes the jersey sizes are with the 41 in the end..for example and these so far are the ones i tried that changes the look of the jersey 00002041 and CD CC 4C 41

theres a lot of values there.goodluck.

I might have a look at this too,
tatlopuyo, are leaving the project?

no.just giving everyone a chance to help.coz its hard.

[tatlopuyo]

its hard to doing it alone but im sure we can do it as a community here in nlsc.just like in 2k12 when i open the doors on what values to change in the global to change the skintones and the shadows.

[tatlopuyo]

heyo! post the info, I'd love a shot at it and I'm sure others might too

ok here...start from this offset -------> 000052fc

those values that changes the jersey sizes are with the 41 in the end..for example and these so far are the ones i tried that changes the look of the jersey 00002041 and CD CC 4C 41

theres a lot of values there.goodluck.

almost forgot to say..that offset is from the uncompressed cloth_wishbone.iff havent tried other cloth_xxxx.iff

[JaoSming]

awesome. when I get a free moment today I will dive right into this

[bigh0rt]

awesome. when I get a free moment today I will dive right into this

I've never felt more confident about something getting done in my life.

[exrxixxx]

There is nothing to do with hex (not worth due to complication and quanityt of verticles)
Except cloth movement effects (increase/decrease gravity - more/less movement)

All 3D models are readable by NBA2Kx mod Tool, they can be exported and edited with Blender to your taste.

There are three 3D Models in the file (i took a look at cloth_u.iff)
Edit any one of them, them import to all three slots.
I do not know why three are needed (probably one for menus, others for the game, rest for other menus or sth like that. Or maybe for different size of the players.-Just a guess, it is not crucial at this stage of understanding)

Modifying with Blender is giving a change of uniform shape - that is what you seek for

[-scarface-]

There is nothing to do with hex (not worth due to complication and quanityt of verticles)
Except cloth movement effects (increase/decrease gravity - more/less movement)

All 3D models are readable by NBA2Kx mod Tool, they can be exported and edited with Blender to your taste.

There are three 3D Models in the file (i took a look at cloth_u.iff)
Edit any one of them, them import to all three slots.
I do not know why three are needed (probably one for menus, others for the game, rest for other menus or sth like that. Or maybe for different size of the players.-Just a guess, it is not crucial at this stage of understanding)

Modifying with Blender is giving a change of uniform shape - that is what you seek for

Yeas but he got this by hex editing... as far as I know


with Blender you can only edit static jerseys like Bliss did, you will loose all the jersey movement.
I am pretty sure now that hex editor can do the job, we just need to know which values to edit.

[maumau78]

There is nothing to do with hex (not worth due to complication and quanityt of verticles)
Except cloth movement effects (increase/decrease gravity - more/less movement)

All 3D models are readable by NBA2Kx mod Tool, they can be exported and edited with Blender to your taste.

There are three 3D Models in the file (i took a look at cloth_u.iff)
Edit any one of them, them import to all three slots.
I do not know why three are needed (probably one for menus, others for the game, rest for other menus or sth like that. Or maybe for different size of the players.-Just a guess, it is not crucial at this stage of understanding)

Modifying with Blender is giving a change of uniform shape - that is what you seek for

exrxixxx this will only work for low res.....high res won't take jersey updateds and still use baggy jersey....HEX in needed to change cloth in high res IMHO

[seanbarkley]

I'll give it a shot too when I get home

It would be good to keep a database on what effects are gotten with each value changed. That'd help the others to keep track of the different advances...

[exrxixxx]

There is nothing to do with hex (not worth due to complication and quanityt of verticles)
Except cloth movement effects (increase/decrease gravity - more/less movement)

All 3D models are readable by NBA2Kx mod Tool, they can be exported and edited with Blender to your taste.

There are three 3D Models in the file (i took a look at cloth_u.iff)
Edit any one of them, them import to all three slots.
I do not know why three are needed (probably one for menus, others for the game, rest for other menus or sth like that. Or maybe for different size of the players.-Just a guess, it is not crucial at this stage of understanding)

Modifying with Blender is giving a change of uniform shape - that is what you seek for

exrxixxx this will only work for low res.....high res won't take jersey updateds and still use baggy jersey....HEX in needed to change cloth in high res IMHO

Ja, this could explain why "THREE".
Lo, Medium, High - Quality.

But I can not agree that it only effective foe low quality.
These are fundamentals. If you update High Res 3D model - it will affect High quality uniform in the game.
And I am 99,9 % sure I am correct with my offers

[-scarface-]

There is nothing to do with hex (not worth due to complication and quanityt of verticles)
Except cloth movement effects (increase/decrease gravity - more/less movement)

All 3D models are readable by NBA2Kx mod Tool, they can be exported and edited with Blender to your taste.

There are three 3D Models in the file (i took a look at cloth_u.iff)
Edit any one of them, them import to all three slots.
I do not know why three are needed (probably one for menus, others for the game, rest for other menus or sth like that. Or maybe for different size of the players.-Just a guess, it is not crucial at this stage of understanding)

Modifying with Blender is giving a change of uniform shape - that is what you seek for

exrxixxx this will only work for low res.....high res won't take jersey updateds and still use baggy jersey....HEX in needed to change cloth in high res IMHO

Ja, this could explain why "THREE".
Lo, Medium, High - Quality.

But I can not agree that it only effective foe low quality.
These are fundamentals. If you update High Res 3D model - it will affect High quality uniform in the game.
And I am 99,9 % sure I am correct with my offers

Prove it!

[JaoSming]

exrxixxx, there are only 2 quality settings in NBA 2K14, low and high. Low quality uses static uniforms, high quality uses the moving uniforms. When compared to 2K12, which actually had a "low" PS2 quality setting, 2k14's low settings = 2K12's medium settings.
the 2Kx or the 3DM tools have never been able to properly export the moving cloth models. We simply have not been able to edit them. What TP has found is the 3D data for these moving uniforms, in hex.
The 3 models are thin/fat/regular



So, this data in the cloth_u.iff file (all practice uniforms use U, so easier to edit IMO) is located with the following hex offsets

Thin Model - 52FC
Fat Model - 7D9FC
Regular Model - 4167C

If you want an isolated look at these parts, I exported them with 2Kx tool. data starts at 51D0 in each file. These offset will probably work in the other cloth files too