Kaman on the block

[Andrew]

Add Kaman to the list of players supposedly on the trading block at the moment.

According to a report in the New York Post, the Clippers are interested in trading Chris Kaman.

The Bobcats have been active in trade talks to upgrade their club and are reportedly interested.

Sources say, however, that Charlotte has no one of consequence Mike Dunleavy desires.

The teams are believed to be looking for a third team to get involved.

Depending on the deal, I wouldn't mind him coming to the Bulls but I doubt they'd be interested in any of the players Chicago would be willing to part with. With all the teams looking to shuffle players around, perhaps we'll see a four or five team blockbuster go down in the near future.

[NovU]

I wouldn't mind him coming to the Bulls

Yeah, I think Chi really could use a big man like Kaman. It'd be nice if they can land such players at the cost of players like Hughes or Hinrich. It should help rose to develop faster with less guards sharing the minutes.

[Lamrock]

The Clippers may be dumb but.... okay, I can actually see a Kaman for Hughes or Hinrich trade go down.

[Andrew]

They might have had more interest in Hinrich had they not picked up Baron Davis, though they'd probably take him over their current backup point guards. That won't happen anytime soon though, not with Hinrich out after thumb surgery. I don't see Kaman ending up in Chicago, but if a few of those teams looking to unload players get together on a deal I could see three, four, maybe even five teams exchanging unwanted players.

[Patr1ck]

Typical Clippers. You know they are like a second college before players really enter the nba, and a development league for veterans who can't play for any contenders? Always bringing up a good rookie or two and shipping them out. Wonder how long it will take Al Thornton to develop and change teams. I know I am talking like it is a done deal, but it's very likely to happen.

Watch Kaman get traded and within one year get a boost in his overall performance.

[NovU]

Kaman isn't someone that is really needed for the Clippers anyways. They already got a good center in Camby for next 2 years so I don't see a reason why not they shouldn't be considering to move him. He's probably the only good trade bait that other teams will bite.

You can't always be in rebuilding status, so I want to see Clippers try to do the best with what they got right now. That's why I liked the idea of landing Baron and Camby. Both are fun players to watch and looking forward to see them play better as the season goes on. If they can upgrade via trading Kaman, it'd be a bonus.

[Jugs]

shit rumour by NY post

Kaman is the bomb

[Cloudy]

He can go back to Germany.

[Patr1ck]

He can go back to Germany.

[Fitzy]

why would they trade kaman? him and camby are one of the best defensive big men combinations in the league

[Andrew]

Typical Clippers. You know they are like a second college before players really enter the nba, and a development league for veterans who can't play for any contenders? Always bringing up a good rookie or two and shipping them out. Wonder how long it will take Al Thornton to develop and change teams. I know I am talking like it is a done deal, but it's very likely to happen.

Watch Kaman get traded and within one year get a boost in his overall performance.

They do seem a bit like that at times, though they've made their fair share of good moves as well (Brand for Chandler being the most noteworthy) and the run in 2006 was the most anti-Clippers thing they'd done in about thirteen years.

[Patr1ck]

Absolutely. From following the Clippers, much of Brand's success in that run was due to coach Mike Dunleavy telling him to lose weight in the off season, which made him stronger and quicker, while developing a nice mid range jumper. Not to mention the trade for Cassell, which basically solidified their offense with some leadership. It fell apart when the Clipper injury bug hit.

Getting a good point guard, is pretty much anti-Clippers. They got Mark Jackson, they got playoffs. They got Sam Cassell, they got playoffs. They got Baron Davis, now we just have to wait and see. Just a little pattern I noticed.

[Andrew]

It's funny how some professional sports teams are like that, usually mediocre at best with a couple of above average years but mostly dwelling in the basement year-to-year. Most teams have their ups and downs of course as stars retire and whatnot but even when the Clippers seem to have assembled a decent roster, misfortune seems to strike.

The classic assertion has been that Sterling's penny-pinching has kept the Clippers from being competitive but then the team has re-signed its own free agents (including that offseason where they paid big money to keep restricted free agents Elton Brand and Corey Maggette) and traded for some high priced players so there are certainly exceptions to the frugal approach he's often accused of.

[Andrew]

His availability is being denied, but the latest rumour has Kaman going to the Bobcats for Jason Richardson.

[Clueminati017]

His availability is being denied, but the latest rumour has Kaman going to the Bobcats for Jason Richardson.

Why break up the chemistry flow on what they have in Charlotte with Okafor, Wallace, Richardson, Felton, and having Augustine to shine? I was hearing Kaman going to the Bulls.

[NovU]

It sounds like a fair trade, although I think Kaman has more values than Richardson.

-Camby
-Randolph
-Thorton
-Richardson
-Davis

Completely revamped roster from last year if it ever happens.
It'll be interesting to see if players like Randolph and Richardson can actually turn the Clippers into a winning team.

[Andrew]

I wouldn't mind that. Too bad Hinrich's out after thumb surgery, his contract would be handy to have if they're trying to trade for someone like Kaman. I don't think even the Clippers would trade for a player who won't be available for at least another couple of months.

[diddy]

this trade would be awesome for clips, but Charlotte would have no solid scorer except Wallace! but i would love to see clips trade kaman to miami for haslem + some shootin' guard, but never happens, cuz it's a very hard situation with salaries! cuz in mia roster clips could be interested only with Marion and his salary is unaffordable for clips!

[Andrew]

Kaman should also be able to fetch a better deal than Haslem and any shooting guard on the Heat not named Dwyane Wade but that would be a fine deal for the Heat (even better if they didn't have to give up Haslem, but surely there's no way the Clippers would take on Blount in return).

[NovU]

Dwayne Wade sure could use a big man like Kaman. They lost to the Rockets a few nights ago due to the lack of size in paint. Yao just exploited the problem. Haslem(6-8) and Beasley(6-9) just ain't gonna do the job these days. Something like Kaman for Haslem+Jones would be a sweet for the Heat if it ever went down.

[Andrew]

I still think the Clippers would want a little more than that, draft picks and/or another player. Kaman's a legit centre who can give you upwards of 15 and 10 with a couple of blocks thrown in for good measure, you don't just give a player like that up. Well, teams do, but they shouldn't.

[Patr1ck]

Wasn't it not too long ago that an article said a very similar thing, but about Gerald Wallace?

Kaman became a pretty good defensive force last year, with career game averages for rebounds and blocks. You've got 3 big guys who have the collective potential to hold down the paint in the Western Conference. They have Randolph who can be Elton Brand's replacement, a 20 and 10 guy. A former defensive player of the year, who is currently averaging a double-double in points and rebounds, and rejecting just below 2 and a half shots per game. One of the leagues better centers who is still getting better. Pretty much 3 double-double guys. All of them averaging a double-double is highly unlikely, but if the coaches/office can keep them all happy with little distractions, they can do some damage.

[NovU]

I still think the Clippers would want a little more than that, draft picks and/or another player. Kaman's a legit centre who can give you upwards of 15 and 10 with a couple of blocks thrown in for good measure, you don't just give a player like that up. Well, teams do, but they shouldn't.

Yup. If they're going to trade Kaman, they can get more in return, I believe.

I don't think it's smart for Clippers to keep Kaman/Randolph/Camby all together anyways. There isn't going to be any chemistry, almost like to Camby's Denver days, Nene/Martin/Camby. Btw, I hope Randolph turns out to be the player the Clippers were hoping for, although I'm skeptical. Getting rid of Mobley was good but getting Randolph wasn't. Unless Randolph really works hard and becomes a better player and a teammate, I feel sorry for Baron Davis and Camby, two players I like watching.

[Andrew]

Wasn't it not too long ago that an article said a very similar thing, but about Gerald Wallace?

Indeed, which makes you wonder how much truth there is in either report and if there's a shred of truth in both, what the Bobcats are trying to do.

[Clueminati017]

Right now the questions are... Which trade is true between Kaman and Camby? And who is the first to go? I know Elgin Baylor made some foolish mistakes on some picks before he stepped down, but right now this is all on Mike Dunleavy's hands on decision making.