Be a G.M. for a day - from Hoopsworld forum

[Clinton]

Hey scubilete, I don't think you really know what your talking about. My team would destroy yours and so would Ben's. I can't really understand they choice of Stock as your starting pg. He is gone in a year and you have nothing to how for it. (This is a franchise, you gotta look into the future). Robinson backing up Shaq? He is gone in a year too. Reggie Miller, still shooting well, but will be also gone in a year or two. Same with Pippen. I know it is great to have veteran leadership but that is taking it too extremes. Where is the offence in your starting lineup. Ok, you have Shaq but you need some more options. You have obviously gone for defence, but do you really need 3 great defenders in your starting lineup, all of which are not great or consistent scorers. You have some offence off the bench with JRich and Van Exel but if they aren't hitting your stretched for places to go. You would have to rely on your defence to shut down the other team, because you ain't gonna out score them.

[scubilete]

Hey scubilete, I don't think you really know what your talking about. My team would destroy yours and so would Ben's. I can't really understand they choice of Stock as your starting pg. He is gone in a year and you have nothing to how for it. (This is a franchise, you gotta look into the future)

I'm the one who don't know what you're talking about, I don't have Stock in my team, not Miller or JRich, so just check well what team are you talking about.

Be a G.M. for a day

Be a G.M. for a day, you can't plan for tomorrow, you need to win today

Ok, you have Shaq but you need some more options. You have obviously gone for defence, but do you really need 3 great defenders in your starting lineup

Yes, I do have Shaq, Webber, Pippen & Van Exel in my team, those are good scorers & defenders. I even have Kucok & Derrick Coleman. More offensive.

you gave me a drug-induced fantasy you pulled out of your ass.

That's right, all you can say is that because you're team is made out of rookies and you still think can win. Your Kurt Thomas just cost the Knicks the game losing the ball against Shawn Kemp, one of my old guys, lol. You see, you're plan is vanished, you don't know what you are talking about when you say you have a plan, no plan of yours will make any player become a star. they are born with the talent.

"We struggled throughout the game tonight," Thomas said. "We played a good third quarter, but we couldn't get it done down the stretch. This one hurts a lot because nobody likes to lose, especially on the turnover."

Kemp scored six straight points during one stretch, including a pair from the line that gave Orlando the lead for good, 78-77, with just over eight minutes left.

That's all you can see my friend, Kemp is still playing, scoring and defending as good as usual.

two, they don't care to have a discussion on basketball

I don't come here to discuss on basketball, you are the one who picked up my team as a terrific contender, to try to say in words that you can beat us, lol. The fact is, if you are planning for a future, ok, maybe my guys will be dead when you can win a championship, but I don't think if you combine those guys you've chosen can win a championship right now, or against my guys.

[:digerati:]

Be a G.M. for a day, you can't plan for tomorrow, you need to win today

Say u r the G.M of a new expansion franchise and u need to make up a roster of 12 players .

Since its a new franchise u need to take into consideration things like getting a player who'll make the fans watch games and stuff

Yes, I do have Shaq, Webber, Pippen & Van Exel in my team, those are good scorers & defenders. I even have Kucok & Derrick Coleman. More offensive.

Shaq, Webber, Van Exel aren't good defenders, and Pippen is an old codger.

That's right, all you can say is that because you're team is made out of rookies and you still think can win.

Amare Stoudemire. One rookie.

Your Kurt Thomas just cost the Knicks the game losing the ball against Shawn Kemp, one of my old guys, lol. You see, you're plan is vanished, you don't know what you are talking about when you say you have a plan, no plan of yours will make any player become a star. they are born with the talent.

That's such a foolish comment. The only way I can respond is to say you're wrong because my players have talent and it can be cultivated into something that works great as a whole. And Thomas made one error, big deal, every player on your team has done the same thing, as has every player on every team.

That's all you can see my friend, Kemp is still playing, scoring and defending as good as usual.

No, nowhere near as good as his prime.

I don't come here to discuss on basketball

Then why the hell do you come here?

you are the one who picked up my team as a terrific contender

I don't even know what that's supposed to mean

to try to say in words that you can beat us, lol.

Again, please, learn proper English, and you still thinking my team can't beat your random assortment of players is foolish.

The fact is, if you are planning for a future, ok, maybe my guys will be dead when you can win a championship, but I don't think if you combine those guys you've chosen can win a championship right now, or against my guys.

Too bad, they can, could and would.

[MC Hao]

I didnt bother to read the posts above (too lazy) before I post this, but if I am a GM and starting a new franchise, I would sign the following players:

C - Amare Stoudamire
PF - Ben Wallace
SF - Ron Artest
SG - Desmond Mason
PG - Jason Kidd

Bench

Eric Snow
Kurt Thomas
Michael Redd
Andrei Kirilenko
Toni Kukoc
Marko Jaric
Keon Clark

I think (note: it's an opinion) these players could make a great team (or dynasty).

[slam37]

Hey Clinton, I haven't said a thing about my team yet, but since you insulted me, I'll put you in your place anyways.

You insult my scoring in my starting lineup. Alright, but what scoring do you have? The Shaq's cancel eachother out, Martin can score more than Wallace but Wallace will kill Martin defensivly, period, no?

Battier can score 15 and Hill isn't much more than 20, ASSUMING he is healthy and can get past Battier's excellent defense. Don't forget Battier has an outside game Hill lacks.

Ummmmm Derek Anderson and Doug Christie are both 10-15 and Christie kills Anderson defensivly. Yes, Anderson can score in bursts, but he isn't very reliable and shoots a low %.

Stockton and Jackson? Both are equally cabable scorers and defenders, but Stockton knows the game better. I'm willing to say 99% of people would take Stockton over Jackson and if not, they simply don't know basketball.

So where are you getting your scoring from? Certainly not any of your gaurds, and your paint play is hampered even MORE than mine with Shaq and Wallace roaming around.

You have an injury-prone Ratliff on the bench who can't score, so The Admiral pretty much ousts him there. My Gooden and yours can cancel eachother out if you want.

Let me see, I have Richardson, Van Exel, Williams, and even Hardaway at the gaurds coming off my bench. You have Wagner, Hudson, and Redd. Just look tat that. Redd and Hudson aren't better than ANY player I have. Wagner lacks experience and with someone like Richardson or Christie on him won't score.

All my gaurds coming off my bench score on yours, and play better defense. Battier, Christie, and Stockton call all score in spurts and hit the outside J's and play good D. So I'm going to ask you exactly where you are superior to me Clinton!? You're one "good" match is Hill vs Battier and it isn't far off and Battier has elements Hill doesn't. Pippen is reliable off the bench if not that good. Lafrenz for you won't do jack in the paint with my guys, nor will Gooden. Redd, Butler and Wagner are going to have trouble too.

I picked a team for this season. If it's long term, I missed it in the post. If it was this season, and you think you're team has a chance in hell of beating mine, explain to me how that would be. I overall have a lot more scoring than you, even if it's spread out, and my D shuts you down. I really don't see you coming close.

[:digerati:]

I apologize to Clinton, Eugene, Greg, Pabel, Jamal and especially Dan for ruining this thread. I will cease to post in it, so scubilete won't need to continue to re-iterate his realistic plan that proves my team would never win a single game and I won't continue to annoy the rest of you and ruin this thread with my moronic fantasy world where you need a plan to win.

Again, I'm sorry for yet again ruining a thread on this forum. Clearly my basketball kung-fu is weak and I'm just being annoying by asking for explanations of the great intelligent basketball strategy masters on here.

My sincere apologies,
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[Clinton]

Firstly I'll start by apoligising to scubilete. You were quoting someone not actually saying that. I should have directed my conversation towards slam37.
Now to slam37, I wouldn't have had that reaction if I knew that wasn't scubilete's team. He was talking trash and I just wanted to put him in his place. But don't get me wrong. Everything I said was pretty true.

You insult my scoring in my starting lineup. Alright, but what scoring do you have?

I have a hell of a lot more scoring than you. Ok the Shaqs cancel each other out. Kenyon Martin would score 10 or 15, too quick for Wallace and loves to run the floor on the break. Grant Hill would have 15-20 an night and could explode for 30 any night. Battier can only slow Hill he can't contain him, he is too good. I actually changed it to JRich who i had in my original team. He provides istant offence and will make his own shot off the dribble. Bobby Jackson would have Stock all night. He is too quick and too athletic. He could put up 15 or 20 easy.

Stockton and Jackson? Both are equally cabable scorers and defenders, but Stockton knows the game better. I'm willing to say 99% of people would take Stockton over Jackson and if not, they simply don't know basketball.

Jackson is a much better scorer than Stockton. I'm willing to say at this point in their careers 99% of people would take Bobby Jackson over John Stockton if they were building a franchise. Stockton is gone in a year and you have nothing to show for it.

You have an injury-prone Ratliff on the bench who can't score, so The Admiral pretty much ousts him there.

The Admiral is gone in a year too with guess what, nothing to show for it. I also have LaFrentz who can play both the 4 and 5. He would also provide scoring off the bench. If one of your big men gets in foul trouble you are short on places to go. Once Robinson goes your only big body off the bench is Gooden and he isn't big enough to play centre.

So where are you getting your scoring from? Certainly not any of your gaurds

What are you talking about. I have two the best scoring point guards in the league with Bobby Jackson and Troy Hudson. I have JRich who can put up 20 and is sure to draw the fans, he would be sharing starts with Michael Redd who is one of the best shooters in the league and Wagner who is putting up huge rookie numbers and is looking like the second coming of Iverson.

Redd and Hudson aren't better than ANY player I have.

Redd and Hudson are putting up better numbers this year than anyone on your bench, except JRich. Robinson, Pippen and Reggie are on their way out and Van Exel isn't too far off it. All of their numbers have declined much like their games. You must remember we are building a franchise. We are looking into the future. Having Stock, Pip, Reggie and Robinson isn't looking into the future. That's looking for the lottery.

Wagner lacks experience and with someone like Richardson or Christie on him won't score.

He looks like a veteran the way he is playing so far this season. I can easy switch him to point guard and run Stock into the ground or use he quickness to beat JRich.

I picked a team for this season. If it's long term, I missed it in the post. If it was this season, and you think you're team has a chance in hell of beating mine, explain to me how that would be. I overall have a lot more scoring than you, even if it's spread out, and my D shuts you down. I really don't see you coming close.

I think my team would run your team into the ground. We're too young, too athletic, too versatile and too deep. I can't believe you think you have more scoring than me. That is crazy. If you said "I have a lot more defnce, I would have said sure, you have a great defensive team. But I have so many different options, something that you lack.

[scubilete]

He was talking trash and I just wanted to put him in his place

all i did was to come with a team that on my understanding was pretty good having shaq and webber together. Of course everyone thinks their own team can win, but I was not the one picking others team to say it's not going to win. However, all appologies are accepted if any was directed to myself, I admit started talking trash but was because the situation already explained earlier. my sincere appologies to the forum and to anyone offended with my coments and for making this thing long, I don't come here to discuss but to give my own opinion, everyone has a different one and has to be respected. , obviously I posted here cause the subject is interesting and I hope to keep looking at other rosters to check what's the best they can come up, but obviously, I won't post to say they can't beat mine, last time I checked a roster, here was my comment

You have just picked 4 of my players, but that's cool with me, it shows me that my team is extremely superb like you would say.

So I don't think that roster was bad,

Sincerely,
Steve

[MC Hao]

Ben, how is my team? Do you think the team I posted is any good? How will my team fair with your team?

[Tyus Edney's Agent]

just to let ben know my team will run motion on offense and a half court press on defense[/quote]

[Clinton]

I apologize to Clinton, Eugene, Greg, Pabel, Jamal and especially Dan for ruining this thread. I will cease to post in it.

Ben isn't posting in this thread no more.