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Postby Maek on Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:20 am

dei. wrote:Maek if I turn-on my auto-sub will my team auto sub?


Yes but only when/until CPU calls timeout.
Known bug. But still playable.

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Postby andrepatorres on Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:32 am

now i changed to 5 min, with 100 substitution frequency for cpu and player and fatigue HIGH.
look at this..
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Postby andrepatorres on Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:33 am

this is cpu games...durint the dynasty
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Postby andrepatorres on Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:59 am

Maek wrote:
andrepatorres wrote:
Kris wrote:Just play a minimum of 5 minutes per quarter cuz you cannot get the full potential of the patch of Maek when you are just playing 3 minutes per quarter ;)


I will try it my friend...

But tell me how i need to put the settings??

substitution frequency 100, fatigue HIGH???

how?


I think 3min/qtr is too low. The fatigue will not take effect in that scenario.
Try using this :

http://www.speedyshare.com/126181203.html

Special scenario fatigue fix.

Goodluck!


thanx for attempt Maek, but look at this...

with 5 minutes and substitution 100 and fatigue HIGH

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Postby Maek on Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:38 pm

andrepatorres wrote:
Maek wrote:
andrepatorres wrote:
Kris wrote:Just play a minimum of 5 minutes per quarter cuz you cannot get the full potential of the patch of Maek when you are just playing 3 minutes per quarter ;)


I will try it my friend...

But tell me how i need to put the settings??

substitution frequency 100, fatigue HIGH???

how?


I think 3min/qtr is too low. The fatigue will not take effect in that scenario.
Try using this :

http://www.speedyshare.com/126181203.html

Special scenario fatigue fix.

Goodluck!


thanx for attempt Maek, but look at this...

with 5 minutes and substitution 100 and fatigue HIGH

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Are you sure you installed the batch files and load the save file in your game?
Because I have tweaked the fatigue fix to a minimum level.

Give me your feedback after you installed it.
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Postby Patr1ck on Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:41 pm

andrepatorres, stop posting directly after your own post. There is an edit button to the upper right of your post, use that.
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Postby SAMutei on Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:30 pm

@andrepatorres: you still showed the pick with 3 min quarter :roll:

but i have also a problem with the sub. the sub. the CPU almost only subs the Center and the Power Forward.
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Postby jp24 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:58 am

SAMutei, the problem for you is that there aren't enough fouls/timeouts to force a substitute, because the game time is slow, it appears that the only time subs occur are on timeouts and fouls. (CPU TIMEOUTS ONLY). If you make it 6 minutes, that issue will dissappear.

andrepatorres: The SUB PATCH only works for USER vs CPU, not CPU vs CPU (simulation mode) to fix that you have to install yesky's patch, but it is not completely fixed either because the total minutes don't add up. Search YESKY and you will find his fix.

Maek: great work, I really liked the patch before but it had a few bugs, seems you fixed most except now the CPU TIMEOUT SUB ONLY , but at least it does the job.

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Postby stanley22790 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:12 am

Maek, Hi sir... im a newbie here... are you also creating cyberface...
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Postby Angelo on Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:21 pm

ill answer that question for you bro stanley maek is not doing any cyberface patches..
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Postby Maek on Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:42 pm

jp24 wrote:SAMutei, the problem for you is that there aren't enough fouls/timeouts to force a substitute, because the game time is slow, it appears that the only time subs occur are on timeouts and fouls. (CPU TIMEOUTS ONLY). If you make it 6 minutes, that issue will dissappear.

andrepatorres: The SUB PATCH only works for USER vs CPU, not CPU vs CPU (simulation mode) to fix that you have to install yesky's patch, but it is not completely fixed either because the total minutes don't add up. Search YESKY and you will find his fix.

Maek: great work, I really liked the patch before but it had a few bugs, seems you fixed most except now the CPU TIMEOUT SUB ONLY , but at least it does the job.

Keep up the awesome work.


Very well explained.
Yeah the substitution trigger is the remaining problem.
But I think we can live with the simple unfixable bug.

Thanks mate! :oops:
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Postby andrepatorres on Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:26 pm

what about the cpu timeouts??

every time that cpu steals the ball for the first time, they call timeout...

what abou this bug maek?
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Postby Maek on Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:50 pm

andrepatorres wrote:what about the cpu timeouts??

every time that cpu steals the ball for the first time, they call timeout...

what abou this bug maek?


:idea: The auto-substitution is only triggered by a CPU timeout or FT timeout.
Limiting the full ability of the substitution fix.
If a USER calls a timeout, no auto-substitution happens instead it provides the replenishment of the players' fatigue in-game. :idea:

No problem with the steal issue though. :shock:
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Postby deihatein on Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:08 am

Another question Maek, I turn-on the auto-sub then the CPU calls a timeout then I decided to turn-off the auto-sub, Is that recommendable?
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Postby Maek on Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:23 am

dei. wrote:Another question Maek, I turn-on the auto-sub then the CPU calls a timeout then I decided to turn-off the auto-sub, Is that recommendable?


Nope. Waste of time.
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Postby miner0w on Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:26 pm

maek, wat setting should i put if i play game speed at 34, 7 min. ty!
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Postby Maek on Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:34 pm

miner0w wrote:maek, wat setting should i put if i play game speed at 34, 7 min. ty!


Your gamespeed is too low, resulting to these :
- Gametime will run at constant speed will your players will run a slower so they will NOT get tired even after a whole 7min quarter.

Solution :
- Set your fatigue effect to high so that it will counter the slow tiring of your players.
- Set the substitution frequency to 50 - 60 so that once the CPU call a timeout your player will get subbed immediately even if they a mere tired only.

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