For gordon to be effective he needs to control the ball
I disagree. He barely attacks the rim off the dribble. He'd be suited next to a guy who will dominate the ball and get it to Gordon when he'd open. He's a very good shooter, so with Rose breaking down defences and being a very good passer I see them being a good fit offensively.
Defensively it's not great, but it's never been. If Rose can guard shooting guards that would be great.
But my original question still lingers...how does Jason Kidd's passing make up for the things he does that hurt a team?
The whole point in my post on Avery was that, from my point of view, I would keep Jason Kidd in because I trust him to make the right play - patricularly the right pass in a critical situation.
What about bad passes or passing turnovers?
Read my post. I was saying the only statistic that shows a good pass occured is an assist.
So, you have no problem with people just declaring things. You don't want any proof for these claims at all?
Jason Kidd is horrible, he has never made a good pass in history, turns it over on every possession and misses every single shot. Plus he's the worst defensive player to ever suit up in the league.
You can't deny it is the truth, because I've seen it and I am declaring it to be so. Don't push me to prove it, because it is common knowledge. Any real NBA fan knows it.
That's up to you to say that - but let's be serious, I'm not making rediculous claims here.
I just gave my view on the matter. I'm not going to pull out a bunch of statistics on every post that I give my opinion in. Why?
BECAUSE I DON'T PUT 100% STOCK INTO STATS.
You may, but I don't. And I trust my eyes to help me form my opinion.
You think NBA teams don't want proof of the claims from their scouts? Their scouts say "this guy is better than Jordan" and they just believe it? I'd hate to have you on a team I manage, you'd never bring me any useful information, just vapid memes and myths.
Again, exaggerating to the highest level.
Yes, scouts present GM's with statistics. But they also give their own views on the player - there is not, and will never be, a statistic for every single movement that goes on in a basketball game. So if a scout can't prove it through statistics, you'd probably fire him. Then you would go on to build a team around Leon Powe.
How do you know it isn't?
Of course statistics do not show the full story. But they show tons more than watching a game does. About 82 times more.
How can something that doesn't show the full story, show more than the full story itself?
By the way, pleae place a large IMO in your post. It offends me if you don't.
Why limit yourself to the boxscore?
When you go 100% of stats, you're basically doing that.
You didn't have to read through the thread, you had to glance at the single post that I linked.
When it loaded it was half inbetween two posts, neither by you. Couldn't be fucked looking for what you were talking about.
Except you're completely and blatantly wrong. Let me know where you can find box scores that list offensive fouls, ball handling and passing turnovers, jumpers, dunks and tips, etc.
No, every stat that involves those base statistics I mentioned are derived from a regular old boxscore.