can i get some ratings on shane heal, and alex garcia (spurs
Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:32 pm
i was just at the spurs/mavs preseason game and saw these two play, and i like em both even though only one will make the team
i really enjoyed watching heal (australia) light up the dream team and trash talk barkley even though we whipped them he was a good player
thanks
i really enjoyed watching heal (australia) light up the dream team and trash talk barkley even though we whipped them he was a good player
thanks
Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:18 pm
Im taking your a spurs fan?
Im not sure how these new ratings work so I wouldnt be able to tell you.
Being in Oz I wont get the game for a few more weeks.
If either Heal and Alex Garcia make the team id follow these type of rules though
Heal, is a shooter, he isnt a great defender, he'd have some toughness tho! So I wouldnt make him great at much, just maybe above avg on threes and FT's, and a good ball handler, but not great.
From what Ive read about garcia, he's an explosive type of guy, who is really a 2 guard playing the point for the spurs. So he'd have a good vertical leap, some speed etc.
Im not sure how these new ratings work so I wouldnt be able to tell you.
Being in Oz I wont get the game for a few more weeks.
If either Heal and Alex Garcia make the team id follow these type of rules though
Heal, is a shooter, he isnt a great defender, he'd have some toughness tho! So I wouldnt make him great at much, just maybe above avg on threes and FT's, and a good ball handler, but not great.
From what Ive read about garcia, he's an explosive type of guy, who is really a 2 guard playing the point for the spurs. So he'd have a good vertical leap, some speed etc.
Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:50 pm
It seems Shane Heal is still giving it to Sir Charles...
Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:59 pm
I don't know what ratings Heal deserves but he shoots 40% on treys in his Australian league, and around 45% on treys in International competition. You'd have to adjust that to the NBA 3-point-line but it should be noted that most of Heal's threes are from a long way out (often closer to the halfcourt-line) because he's double and triple-teamed constantly being one of the best scorers in Australian history. He shot a franchise record FIVE 3-pointers in one quarter for the Minnesota TWolves. I say he's very quick for a white guy and works very hard on defense. Has a good floater and likes to take it to the hole when the lane is open. Very good court-vision and rarely makes a bad pass. Plays point-guard for the Australian Olympic team.
Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:13 pm
also..
He shoots A LOT. Very good mid/short-range jumper. Very aggressive, but not too strong. Cant really jump or rebound. Good Off Awareness. Average Def awareness. Doesnt average a lot of assists, but as said is a good passer.
That should help with about all the rating areas..
He shoots A LOT. Very good mid/short-range jumper. Very aggressive, but not too strong. Cant really jump or rebound. Good Off Awareness. Average Def awareness. Doesnt average a lot of assists, but as said is a good passer.
That should help with about all the rating areas..
Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:18 pm
heal averaged 9 assists in the last season in nbl!
Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:24 pm
I am talking about NBA, and to a lesser extent games like Olympics and World champs.. after all.. it is NBA live we are(or will be) playing.
With the T-Wolves he averaged 0.8 assists per game(true it was in under 6 mins a game). He playes a much different role in the NBA. He is a strike shooter off the bench in the NBA, in the mould of a Steve Kerr, not a playmaker and leader like in the NBL..
With the T-Wolves he averaged 0.8 assists per game(true it was in under 6 mins a game). He playes a much different role in the NBA. He is a strike shooter off the bench in the NBA, in the mould of a Steve Kerr, not a playmaker and leader like in the NBL..
Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:01 pm
I didnt know this, but just recently read that he led the rocky mountain review in assists in 1997 I guess it was, so until he hurt his calf he was well on his way to being a decent kinda mins player.
Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:27 pm
I wouldn't say Heal is a good mid ranger, he's a good three point shooter. But mid range is not his thing. However, inside the line he is a good penetrator.
Like the other guy said, rebounds don't exist in his vocabulary. Great awareness offensively but not a passer in the same vain as Stockton, TeeBee, Kidd or Tony Parker. Very quick but not fast and a very strong point guard.
Listen to the Steve Kerr description and adjust your ratings accordingly.
Like the other guy said, rebounds don't exist in his vocabulary. Great awareness offensively but not a passer in the same vain as Stockton, TeeBee, Kidd or Tony Parker. Very quick but not fast and a very strong point guard.
Listen to the Steve Kerr description and adjust your ratings accordingly.
Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:39 pm
I'd say he'd be about a 40 overall in Live'04.
Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:01 pm
If only there was a rating for "Opposition fan's hatred." Heal would be a 99 in the NBL!!! I love him though. It's a shame he's no longer in the NBL cos he always made the games fun to watch. Ugly looking jumpshot, but damn... he hit a LOT of them, and not only the open ones either. Often with a defender in his shorts and a hand up (in his face, not up his shorts 
). I must agree with the proposed ratings offered earlier in this thread. Just make sure he has the Bob Sura style peroxide hair! I'm a little concerned about his effectiveness as a specialist shooter. Steve Kerr could come into a game after sitting on the pine for 47.9 minutes and still make the gamewinner. I'm not so sure Heal is as pure a shooter as that. He is more of a rhythm shooter. IMO anyway. Great to see at least one Aussie in the Big Show though!! Bogut will be in there I reckon. Give him time.
). I must agree with the proposed ratings offered earlier in this thread. Just make sure he has the Bob Sura style peroxide hair! I'm a little concerned about his effectiveness as a specialist shooter. Steve Kerr could come into a game after sitting on the pine for 47.9 minutes and still make the gamewinner. I'm not so sure Heal is as pure a shooter as that. He is more of a rhythm shooter. IMO anyway. Great to see at least one Aussie in the Big Show though!! Bogut will be in there I reckon. Give him time.
Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:48 am
yes i'm a spurs fan, and look back!
i was at the spurs game, cuz i heard heal was gonna play!!
i loved him in the olympic vs the usa dream team, and thought he was a great player, and loved him jawing w/ barkley
garcia is a muscle bound fool!
he has a great leap, but cant shoot
i think they said only one of the two would make the team (3rd point guard), and i'd say garcia was better, but they said the spurs wanted a 'kerr-like pt guard
shane heal to the rescue
he did miss all FOUR 3's he shot (no one ever accused him of passing up a shot), but they were all "in and out"
i hope heal makes the team, but i'm gonna put both in my dynasty
i was at the spurs game, cuz i heard heal was gonna play!!
i loved him in the olympic vs the usa dream team, and thought he was a great player, and loved him jawing w/ barkley
garcia is a muscle bound fool!
he has a great leap, but cant shoot
i think they said only one of the two would make the team (3rd point guard), and i'd say garcia was better, but they said the spurs wanted a 'kerr-like pt guard
shane heal to the rescue
he did miss all FOUR 3's he shot (no one ever accused him of passing up a shot), but they were all "in and out"
i hope heal makes the team, but i'm gonna put both in my dynasty