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Postby Joe' on Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:25 pm

^Territories (such as Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, etc) are not considered states.

And there are only four Commonwealths, which are only referred to as such in strictly legal or political scenarios. I mean, I don't think anybody (again, in a normal life scenario) ever says "The US are formed by 46 States and 4 Commonwealths".
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Postby mcoll86-2 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:42 pm

that true, but one of throws deffition of what a teacher or prof is looking for as the right answer.
territories are are not "states" but yes they are from the rights and law stand point of the federal government.. in general the states 50 are called that but the 4 commonwealths are called commonwealth in every way except in the widest since of the term.

so now name the commonwealths

ps i never said territories were states, just there apart of the us by way of the federal goverment and law
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Postby Oznogrd on Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:55 pm

mcoll, you're flat out wrong. Part of being a "state" is having representation in the Federal government. NO territory has representation; period.
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Postby Chaser7 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:00 pm

Joe' wrote: "The US are formed by 46 States and 4 Commonwealths".


A) it would be "is" not "are" :lol:

B) What the fuck? There are 50 states, not 46 states and 4 commonwealths, I know you said no one would ever say that phrase, but how is there even the potential for someone to say that??
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Postby mcoll86-2 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:31 pm

i never said anything about representation in congress or did i say a terrority is a state, i just said congrees for reasons hard to write sees them as part of the us. sl i'm not wrong. us there repsenteedited, but but no voting power actully right by the way.

as number the answer is two rights 50states in the comon right answer but the real answer is 46 states and for 4 commonwealths for the short answer. some are going to say this, but goth are right. but question answer it , we know there comonwealths, sbut no is naming them. name them! its not 50 + commonwealths its either 46 states and the 4 commonwealths or 50 states. where the + comes from is terrorites and D.C.
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Postby mcoll86-2 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:36 pm

i should cleared that a litle better i the post of mine back, but the post before should be clearer.
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Postby Chaser7 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:36 pm

mcoll86-2 wrote:i never said anything about representation in congress or did i say a terrority is a state, i just said congrees for reasons hard to write sees them as part of the us. sl i'm not wrong. us there repsenteedited, but but no voting power actully right by the way.

as number the answer is two rights 50states in the comon right answer but the real answer is 46 states and for 4 commonwealths for the short answer. some are going to say this, but goth are right. but question answer it , we know there comonwealths, sbut no is naming them. name them! its not 50 + commonwealths its either 46 states and the 4 commonwealths or 50 states. where the + comes from is terrorites and D.C.


You are really really wrong. There is not 46 states and 4 commonwealths. There are 50 states. Your grandfather should stick to polysci and not with geography :lol:

The 4 states that desginate themselves as commonwealths are Kentucky, Virginia, Massachusetts, and Pennsylvania. But they are states not commonwealths. Its just something that was written in their old state constitution, but they are recognized as states. Thus 50 states! Boo yah!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonweal ... _States%29
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Postby mcoll86-2 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:45 pm

i said there is two right answers. )1 50 states or 2) 46 and 4 commonwealths, that the difference. i also have hared during elections the 4 called commonwealths, so were all right, yes there 50 states, but there called 46 states and 4 commonwealths.
see the point now.
if in the continuation of the four then by legal there still commonwealths, unless and only unless there amended directly in throws contituitons. that the only they are not considered commonwealths. that doesn't mean they cant be called states to. it depends on how its written.
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Postby benji on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:50 pm

Chaser7 wrote:Your grandfather should stick to polysci and not with geography

States are a political construct, not a geographic one.

Their names are Commonwealths, their legal standing is "States", as per the Constitution.
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Postby mcoll86-2 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:53 pm

right benji political and legal.

that why the answer is actually two.

ie vcu what called Virgina Commonwealth university. there maybe a Virginia State University, i dont know but you see the point.
all this comes down to the constitution of each.

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Postby J@3 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:03 pm

Dude, make one post... put everything you want to write in that one singular post, if you wish to add more, edit said post.
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Postby Drex on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:04 pm

I thought there was only one Constitution :?
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Postby mcoll86-2 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:04 pm

excause me! i was rushed and forgot. there one for federal then one for each state/commonwealth.

ie what happans if the federal government where distoryed and there was no D.C, the power reversal to each state/Commonwealth, so the power there as be placed with of there conitutions. the lower onces also digastes things shuch as term # of governors, buget law, among other things.
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Postby Drex on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:07 pm

You're excaused!1!
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Postby benji on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:14 pm

the power reversal to each state/Commonwealth

The Tenth Amendment, if it wasn't ignored with the Ninth by the fascists, already says the power is in the States.
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Postby mcoll86-2 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:22 pm

that what i was trying to recall thank you. its been awhile since, my poly sci or i could ask my grandfather this stuff. i wans recalling what amendment it was. i remembered it being there and was what i was trying to say about reversing to the states under certain reasons. (I forget the exact read right now) but that's i was meaning. about its existence and why i gave the ie about D.C.

among other thing in my state our state conitution talks about is the state budget is suppose to be balanced, and states that the governor as a term limit of 2 terms. the budget. that one comes all the time around here and must be balanced and cant be - or must be balanced in the next term by the
state.

they do balance the budget to, so the state never is in the red.
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Postby Chaser7 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:27 pm

Drex wrote:I thought there was only one Constitution :?


Nah Each state has their own constitution too.
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Postby mcoll86-2 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:29 pm

that what i said chaser each does
read my ie a couple post back to see why each has one.
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Postby Chaser7 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:57 pm

Yeah but your posts are almost impossible to read :lol: (N)
You need to work on your grammar and spelling, hahahha.
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Postby mcoll86-2 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:19 pm

my grammer is fine its my spelling and tow issue that cause to get wired to read. one if you've been around the board while and i dont know if you have been, but there two issues with me that make my writing wired sometimes. one is being disylic is the way my mind sees and writes things is a problem speically if im a rush or trying to write with several trains of thought at once and hearing issue is the other issue to boot. i'm smart, has nothing to do with it, but because of these two issues together, boot spelling not a grate area because of hearing its sometimes comes out like it does. specially if i'm tired and not reading thing right. because of the hearing i dont hear sometimes the sounds of letters and sometimes what i hear as i read it, i miss. hope this is more sincable to you. i'm not sorry for it and im not ashamed of it, but i do the best i can. i try to write when i'm not tired, but sometimes it comes out before i know i need to stop writing. the worse it gets the more it comes. either being tired, or in a rush or to many thoughts to put in at once. the mid for me goes a grate deal faster than i can write.
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Postby Chaser7 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:25 pm

Naw your grammar ain't that great either, here are some quotes:

"i said there is two right answers."

"if in the continuation of the four then by legal there still commonwealths"

"territories are are not "states" but yes they are from the rights and law stand point of the federal government"


just to name a few :roll:

Anyways its not that big of a deal, you should just slow down when typing... (Y)
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Postby benji on Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:25 pm

If you are indeed dyslexic, it is quite amazing you are coherent and understandable as you are. And nothing we can say can really help can it?

But it could just be me...
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Postby Oznogrd on Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:30 pm

dyslexia is different for each person to different degrees: just cuz he has a few misspellings does not mean he cant read or write coherent posts if he truly has dyslexia but i am more inclined to not believe...
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Postby --- on Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:49 pm

my grammer is fine its my spelling and tow issue that cause to get wired to read.


:lol: I usually don't care about people's grammar, but I just can't figure out what the fuck that means.
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Postby mcoll86-2 on Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:03 am

yes there are different degrees of the learning disability levels. the dertimination is by a test taken by the person suspected of having it at places desinged schools to teach learning disabled. the closest one i know of and is where i took mine is lexington ky. the serverity of the degree depends on some diffenting things, and i don't remember them all, but the bigesst one i remrmber is age. the younger its appers the more sever it is tends to be. in my case it didnt appear fully until later. until high school, but the signs had been there for a long while, they just didnt appear fully until then for some reasonons. my level is cloest to the last point of being clasassifed has having it, but you half to remember, its there and i also have sever hearing loss. nothing in one ear and greater than 80% the other so that too impacts this. the rest also goes to. factors very greatly inpact the matter for dysliixa at a much greater levels then it does for most people as i explained already. the impact is more pronnounced under different conditions at that moment in of time. so, believe it or illini i do have it and dont say i don't.
i do the best i'm able to do, but if you read my other post you can see they change greatly depending on time, and length and words I'm using at any given point. being dyslexic means your going to have miss words in a sentence, reversing word order, miss spelling is most common one in leaving letters out or reversing letters in a word. there more, but that the common signs of it. only throws who seen it and throws trained to see the learning issue know for sure if someone has it. most people dont and arent trained to see it, even teacher now really just are being taught to know what to look out for. one more common thing is how for some dyslexics read then write the exact same thing. you cant assume either they do or or dont have it it, you half to know what your looking at or you must take it at face value until you know what your looking at. i can read and write, but i do have issues with it. believe it or not i'm probably better at then i have been because i know how to work with it and having the computer helps, plus i love to write. if i didnt have throws pieces, i'd be considerably worse at writing. i cant hand write anymore because my hand writing is several times worse than computer screen writing. the difference is like going from high school back to lower grade school level. sometimes that the case still in computer use writing when i in a rush or am tired and dont know what i'm writing. i hope this helps some you to see where i half to come from and i know i do the best can with it. when you post odd, there sometimes is a good reason for it, if you take anything from this post please dont assume something unless you know the facts or or trained in some way to know what you looking for.
that all i ever ask of people, dont assume unless you know.

ps beji is half right, there isnt much you can do, two things you can do for some with dyslexia is remind someone like me to slow down and write in there own pace and not rush it and ask them questions of what there writing if its that unreadable. sometimes that will help them to see there mistakes and help them fix it. that doesnt work in every case, but does in some cases.
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