Official Milwaukee Bucks Thread

[The X]

I don't mind double posting as it's a new line of discussion, but did anyone else notice Bogut had a career high 29pts against Suns....he had 11 boards, 3asts & only 1TO to go with that....he's averaging 17, 10 & 3 in January, which is about where he should be for the rest of the season....with Redd out a few games, it looks like he got a few more touches & he's starting to take advantage of it....I'll be keeping an eye on him to see if he can keep rolling....

[J@3]

Apparentely Bogut dominated Stoudemire in the post, from what I've read at RealGM from Bucks and Suns fans he pretty much tore him apart offensively. The best part is that in the Suns game thread they don't even mention Bogut until after the game, they were all too busy jacking each other off over "STAT"... worst nickname ever.

[-Young Buck-]

Yeah Bogut just needs chances, i hope they dont go away from it. But their offense looks bad. Lots of jumpers, its like they dont even run plays. They just go down the court, set up in areas, and then one pass, jumper. Their defense is really bad, i only saw highlights of the suns game, but they werent even guarding nash as he hit many open jumpers. We need a new coach that actually has a scheme, plays, and gets to these players. It doesnt seem Larry K is getting to the players.

[The X]

Bogut 23 & 10 in loss to Utah....he's now averaging 18 & 10 in the month of January....hopefully this is the start of something significant....I guess big men take a little longer to develop (Bynum being an exception) & Bogut would only be a rookie this year had he played full 4 years in college.....let's hope he can continue this for rest of season & then onto the Olympics....

[-Young Buck-]

Does anyone think bringing in Scott Skiles would help the bucks?

[-Young Buck-]

NBA front-office sources say that the possibility of New York and Milwaukee hooking up on a deal has not been completely extinguished. The Knicks were apparently willing to take on three players who don't start (Charlie Villanueva, Bobby Simmons and Dan Gadzuric) and two of whom haven't lived up to their contracts (Simmons and Gadzuric) just for the right to shed Randolph after Isiah Thomas' failed experiment of pairing him with Eddy Curry. At least one more Knick would have to be included to make the salary-cap math work in the event there is a revival here; Renaldo Balkman, Nate Robinson and Wilson Chandler have all been mentioned. ESPN.com

Personally i think its worth it. Zbo can give us 20-10 a night. Get rid of simmons and gadz contracts, and trade a nice but seemingly unproductive charlie v away. Plus we could get nate robinson or balkman? If we got nate at least we could look at trading bell who seems unhappy still. I think bell would be great in phoenix.

[-Young Buck-]

Time to revive this thread with some nice play by the bucks. Redd just hit a 3 pointer to beat the cavs. Instead of letting it go into overtime. Mason had a cool alley oop from mo williams right before the half too. So the Bucks have been on a roll, beating the cavs, pistons, and nuggets recently. GO BUCKS!

PS. Scott Williams is funny when he says "I like big bucks!"

[Lamrock]

Playoffs are still very much possible for Milwaukee. They are only 3 games out of the eighth seed, and have the talent to fill the gap.

[Scrazynet]

yeah right... perhaps next decade.

[Andrew]

Playoffs are still very much possible for Milwaukee. They are only 3 games out of the eighth seed, and have the talent to fill the gap.

Absolutely, the struggling teams in the East have it pretty good this year since there's a handful of teams in the same boat. As long as there's time for someone to drop a few games and someone else to go on a run, those lower seeds are up for grabs.

[Scrazynet]

They had a better chance with ray allen, big dog and anthony mason.

This is a losing struggling team. AT max looking for a sweep.
Can´t blame michael redd.

[Andrew]

If they do make the Playoffs I can't see them making a lot of noise. Nevertheless, it's a reflection of how badly the East has struggled this year when teams like the Bulls and Bucks aren't out of the running this late in the season, despite their records.

[-Young Buck-]

Bucks got fucked by the refs tonight. Bucks were up beating the spurs and Mo got a foul and reacted like any other player and got a T, then he tried talking to the ref and he tossed him. Oh but Finley does the same thing a few minutes later and he doesnt get anything. Got to love the spurs. The bucks were at home too, they have the spurs number, fucking refs know it too. I think the bucks won 6 of the last 8 games vs spurs at home.

[shadowgrin]

Larry Harris is out.

With Larry Harris out as general manager of the Milwaukee Bucks, Sen. Herb Kohl now has to prove to the next candidate that he’s not a meddling owner.

Player personnel director Dave Babcock will handle the day-to-day operations and the bulk of the team’s draft preparation while Kohl searches for a replacement. But Kohl dismissed Babcock as a candidate.

“I think we need an outside person who will take a fresh look,” Kohl said. “That’s my inclination right now.”

Potential candidates include TV analyst and former coach Doug Collins, former Sonics GM Rick Sund and Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh, who did not take questions from reporters in Indiana on Wednesday.

Collins declined to comment on his interest in the job, but the Bucks pursued him heavily for the head coaching position before hiring Terry Stotts in 2005.

The move also leaves coach Larry Krystkowiak’s future in doubt. Krystkowiak, hired last March, has gone 28-58 in just over a season and Kohl said that his future would be a discussion for after the season.

Harris tried to improve the team midseason by trying to trade for the Knicks’ Zach Randolph, but Kohl turned it down after studying Randolph’s off-the-court issues. Still, he denied allegations that he kept Harris from doing his job.

Harris never made the impact he’d hoped for after being hired as general manager in July 2003. He’d been with the franchise full-time since 1990 when he was the scout-video coordinator under his father, then-coach Del Harris.

But the younger Harris’ teams faltered as he went through a stream of coaches from Terry Porter to Stotts before settling on Krystkowiak in March 2007.

Harris’ teams made the playoffs in 2004 and 2006, but failed to win more than one game in each first-round series.

His tenure also was marked by injuries and poor contracts for a core of now unmovable players, mostly when he committed more than $200 million to player salaries in 2005.

Harris re-signed Michael Redd to a six-year deal worth $90 million, but also chose to keep Dan Gadzuric for six years and $36 million, while signing Bobby Simmons from the Clippers to a five-year, $47 million deal after Simmons won the NBA’s Most Improved Player award.

Simmons wasn’t able to stay healthy and has largely been a role player, while Gadzuric has made just 10 starts since signing the contract and averaged less than 13 minutes a game.

Harris has had some success in the draft, but his trades were mostly busts.

Without a first-round pick in 2006, he sent frenetic point guard T.J. Ford to Toronto for power forward Charlie Villanueva, who hasn’t been able to stay healthy, either.

That deal came after Harris sent his 2006 first-round pick and Desmond Mason for Jamaal Magloire, a trade that also failed because Magloire never seemed to fit the Bucks’ uptempo style.

[SpaceFlare]

I think the Bucks should improve defensively. I'd suggest they build around Mo Will and Bogut. Mo Will has emerged and as long as he's healthy, he's shown that he can be a Billups-esque point guard. Gets teammates involved and has the ability to score for himself when he needs to. Bogut, I believe, has the potential to be one of the better pivots in the game. He's averaging 13 and 9 this season, and from the Bucks games I've seen, not a lot of plays are run for him. I can see him developing into a solid 20-10 big man in the future.

Michael Redd is a good shooter and all but I believe trading him for a rugged defender would greatly benefit the Bucks. I don't think Redd is a superstar type player. I don't think he has the ability to carry his team on his back and lead them to victories, but I'm pretty sure some teams wouldn't mind having a guy with his shooting and ability to create his own shot on their roster.

[shadowgrin]

Michael Redd is a good shooter and all but I believe trading him for a rugged defender would greatly benefit the Bucks

Ron Artest, Gerald Wallace, Bruce Bowen, Marcus Camby, Samuel Dalembert, Raja Bell...

The Bucks are still screwed.

[SpaceFlare]

I don't see Wallace, Bowen and Bell as viable options because their teams won't let them go. Dalembert and Camby would take minutes away from Bogut so the Bucks won't want a center.

Ron Artest is possibly a guy the Kings are willing to let go of, but not for Redd as they basically have Kevin Martin doing what Redd can do.

So yes, the Bucks are screwed.

[-Young Buck-]

Reports that the Bucks are trying to get Donnie Walsh and Larry Brown to run the bucks. I am not sure they would take that challenge, but at least the owner is trying to get some good people in. The bucks have talent, i just think they really need a good coach to make it work, and make the bucks players get off their ass. Sometimes they look like they dont give a shit. I hope Walsh and Brown come to milwaukee. We really need someone that has done something to come in here and get this team in order.

[shadowgrin]

Larry Brown in Milwaukee, say goodbye to Yi's development or Yi for that matter, add Charlie Villanueva alongside him.

[Andrew]

I'd say Walsh is unlikely. Despite all the denials, he's reportedly got a handshake agreement with the Knicks to join them once the season is over.

[-Young Buck-]

Sessions just nailed a 3 pointer with 1 sec left to beat the wizards. Wow what a finish!

[Lamrock]

The sad thing is he was scolded because the Bucks were supposed to lose the game by a small margin but not win.

[J@3]

Bogut's averages for 2008 (40 games)

15.93 ppg
10.28 rpg
1.63 bpg
2.93 apg
61.1% FT%
51.4% FG%

[Andrew]

Solid numbers apart from the free throw percentage, though it's better than his mark on the entire year (and his career for that matter).

[shadowgrin]

The 40 games only played is bothering though.