Miami Heat Thread

YouTube · by **shadowgrin** on Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:30 pm

I tried this at trade checker and it didn't work out:

Dwyane for one peanut.

It says that the peanut has a higher value.

by **Matt** on Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:46 pm

Jason Williams looked good, but i think he needs to look for his own points off the dribble a little more. Dorell Wright should have been getting significant PT last season.

by **JT_55** on Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:04 pm

I tried this at trade checker and it didn't work out:

Dwyane for one peanut.

It says that the peanut has a higher value.

Didn't you hear that the Heat signed the peanut to a 1 billion/year contact yesterday? :shake:

McDwyane, you should do better.

EDIT: I meant that McDwyane should do better to keep shadow up to date, of course.

by **jonthefon** on Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:20 pm

(double-post)

Delete plz.

by **jonthefon** on Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:23 pm

Jason Williams needs to work on removing that pull-up three, because IMO, that's why his FG% is so low. He takes a lot of those pull-up shots, which are never easy to make.

Oh and what's with his hairstyle? He changes it every season, and sometimes three times during the season

Davis was good, but I don't trust him being consistent. They'll most likely be three or four games under .500 when Wade, comes back, and that's a best-case scenario.

by **Indy** on Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:29 am

This never should have been that close. We played excellent defensively and very poor offensively. Jermaine isn't quite ready to play in this offense. Danny and Ike were able to carry the load though, and then Kareem Rush finished you guys off.

Good exciting game though, I'm glad we were able to win it and go to 2-0.

by **J J** on Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:17 pm

Hate to break it to you Indy but, it's obvious the Pacers is going to break down at the 2nd half of the season and if, IF they are going to make it to the Playoffs, which I really doubt, it's clear that they won't get past the 1st round.

And now, I can say, Miami Heat have 0% chance of winning the title again if Shaq is in their team.

by **Indy** on Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:30 am

JosephSu wrote:Hate to break it to you Indy but, it's obvious the Pacers is going to break down at the 2nd half of the season and if, IF they are going to make it to the Playoffs, which I really doubt, it's clear that they won't get past the 1st round.

And now, I can say, Miami Heat have 0% chance of winning the title again if Shaq is in their team.

You're clearly bursting out of the seams with basketball knowledge. I'm sure living in the Philippines you watched all the Pacers pre-season games and the first 2 regular season games right?

You're right about it being obvious we'll break down in the second half though. The Pacers use 14 different players, and as we all know, quality depth does not mean getting rest for guys, but it means everyone will forget how to play in the second half and get tired. Because its not like JOB teams have a history of being in better shape then everyone else. :roll:

by **J J** on Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:01 am

I'm not saying only fatigue will kill them, but it's the inability to get the job done. The way I see it, the Pacers is just a 35-40 win team with this roster, sure, quality depth, but it lacks talent, it lacks the star power that most teams need to flourish. At the end of the day, they are always a possession or 3 short of winning it, and it will only get worse as JO gets older. If they get past the 40-win barrier this season though, I'd be very impressed with the new head coach.

by **Indy** on Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:36 am

JosephSu wrote:I'm not saying only fatigue will kill them, but it's the inability to get the job done. The way I see it, the Pacers is just a 35-40 win team with this roster, sure, quality depth, but it lacks talent, it lacks the star power that most teams need to flourish. At the end of the day, they are always a possession or 3 short of winning it, and it will only get worse as JO gets older. If they get past the 40-win barrier this season though, I'd be very impressed with the new head coach.

Mike Dunleavy, Danny Granger, Marquis Daniels, Ike Diogu, David Harrison, Shawne Williams, Travis Deiner and Kareem Rush are all better then you think.

This is a team that could have 5 double figure scorers. Guys will step up at different times, and we do have a perrenial all-star in Jermaine O'Neal.

I'm glad people think the Pacers are going to suck. It will be fun to see everyones shock.

by **diddy** on Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:54 pm

i'm tired to watch my fav team loosin' so much! i want riley retire, and if not, we need to rebuild! i'd leave in the roster only Wade, shaq, Zo and ricky and may be cook! with others we could make some moves!
haslem
j-will
wright
smush
penny
and the rest trash could brigh here good players! i'd trade with NYK for crawford + Curry, or with LAL for Odom+critterton or with GSW(the best) for Al + ellis!
and add some free agents!

i think shaq, harrington, davis, wade, ellis

by **-Young Buck-** on Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:40 am

Miami Heat waive Penny Hardaway to make room for Luke Jackson! Damn man, Penny used to be my favorite player. Sad to see him get waived.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3152066

by **The X** on Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:12 am

-Young Buck- wrote:Miami Heat waive Penny Hardaway to make room for Luke Jackson! Damn man, Penny used to be my favorite player. Sad to see him get waived.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3152066

that's great news....I've always been a fan of Luke Jackson & have never liked Penny :cool:

by **Lamrock** on Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:38 am

Wow... I guess it doesn't matter that I don't have Penny in my Live 08 roster any more. (Y)

McDwyane's legacy lives on as the thread continues.

by **Axel** on Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:50 pm

Blow this shit up... the Heat belong in a retirement home, not on the basketball court.

There's got to be someone foolish enough to take on Shaq... right? right?

He doesn't even make it into the top 10 centers right now on my list.

by **benji** on Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:06 pm

There's Amare, Howard, Yao...and...is Bynum better? Biedrins? Haywood? Kaman? Camby? Ilgauskas? Dalembert?

Maybe Bynum, but I certainly don't see nine centers better than Shaq out there.

by **Axel** on Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:52 pm

benji wrote:There's Amare, Howard, Yao...and...is Bynum better? Biedrins? Haywood? Kaman? Camby? Ilgauskas? Dalembert?

Maybe Bynum, but I certainly don't see nine centers better than Shaq out there.

I would rather have:

Amare
Howard
Yao
Ben Wallace
Kaman
Duncan
Chandler
Gasol
Camby
Okur (off to a little slow start this season, but I would still rather have him)
Rasheed
Biedrins
Bogut (perhaps?)
Bynum

Shaq is 30th in the league in rebounding. Always in foul trouble, and a defensive liability. Free throw shooting is getting worse as his career goes along. Always injured. Huge contract.

I'm sure I could think of more if I put my mind to it. I don't know where you're looking for centers? You put up some of the worst of the starting centers in the league on your list.

by **benji** on Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:41 pm

Shaq is in the top twenty in rebounding (not that he's ever been a great rebounder), and he's still one of the better centers. When I already have a player, I'm ignoring their contract. I make do with what I have.

Worst starting centers? You left off Ilgauskas, Dalembert and Haywood from your list, but they're some of the better guys at the position. (I left off Duncan and Sheed, went with them as PF...I think I overlooked Gasol for the same, which is my mistake)

For the 28 minutes a night he's giving, I would only take Howard, Yao, Amare and Bynum over him. Maybe Biedrins and Haywood if I had scoring.

by **mvpshaq32** on Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:45 pm

Chris Quinn is a monster!! :shock:

He has had some good games this past week, but mostly he is just hitting the open jumper.

YouTube · by **shadowgrin** on Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:43 pm

Watching Heat games without Wade is like watching in slow-motion.
You know where the ball is going to be even before they pass it.

Shaq is complaining to his teammates that they should just give him the damn ball.
The man's right damn it, give it to him.

by **Indy** on Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:25 pm

Shaq should be suspended for the hit on Jermaine O'Neal today. That was nasty, and the fact that they didn't call a flagarant is even more nasty.

Boy do the Heat suck badly though. We never hit our rhythm tonight and were able to beat them on the road in a back to back.

by **jots** on Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:28 pm

Indy what are you talking about? Shaq gets hit with much worse every night. This is a physical game you know.

And yeah the Heat really suck right now. They´ve got to start playing defense if they wanna win.

by **diddy** on Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:10 pm

ma team need a rebuild! for sure! more than 50% of the roster is trash (N)

by **Indy** on Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:20 am

jots wrote:Indy what are you talking about? Shaq gets hit with much worse every night. This is a physical game you know.

Shaq's hit on JO was equally vicious as Al Horford's on TJ Ford. Horford was given a flagarant 2 and suspended for one game. They have to keep things consistent.

by **Drex** on Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:33 am

But the players are different. You've just compared Jermaine to TJ Ford.

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