Technical Fouls

[Clutch]

This came up to mind when i was answering a question in a different post so i thought i'd throw it out there; one thing i really wish EA would consider - Technical fouls.

I know it could open up a whole can of worms and gameplay balance issues but it is a part of the 'real life' game, especially after last season's officiating changes locked down on things; it's hard to remember a single game from last season where technical fouls didn't affect game outcomes at least somewhat; they could maybe implement an additional rating (50-99) for some kind of player emotion factor, maybe call it 'Temperament' or 'Disposition' or something like that; it would provide for some great new animations and the chances of a T being called might rise or fall depending on whether total team fouls are being called favorably for one team over another, how bad a team is being blown out, how close/tight a game is down the stretch or if two players with high/bad 'temperaments' are matched up on one another etc; so guys who are cool-headed like Nash would very rarly pick up a T, whereas firey competitors like Artest or Rasheed might get them more often; i think it'd make games a lot less predictable with the chances of a double-T ejection and a whole lot more challenging/exciting, especially with your superstar picking up an early T in crucial playoff game; and if EA does something to make coaches more of a factor rather than just a token figure head, it could really make things challenging if they happen to get tossed out of a game, which happens in real games

i wish the focus would be less on a non-gameplay features like team chemistry (listening to Carlos Arroyo whine about not enough mins or not getting along with Dwight Howard for instance so the simple/predictable/obvious solution is just to trade him away, improve team chem and end up with a happy super team), and focus on something that is part of 'real life' gameplay, ie. technical fouls

"If it's in the game, it's in the game" and I could care less about Arroyo and his feeling we need more team bonding; no offense Carlos, it's just an example; anyway, just my 2 cents

[[Q]]

this has been discussed many times before and the response is always the same: the NBA would never allow it because it makes a bad impression about the league. sorry, the onnly techs you'll get in the game will be from defensive 3 second calls.

[Clutch]

wow 'bad impression?' really? sorry fairly new to the forums but man, that seems pretty strange to turn a complete blind eye to it, especially when it's a part of the game; i'm not meaning full on 'pistons/indy' brawl; that would take away from it for sure; but just those small T's like where 'Sheed would overreact, throw his headband, be hit with a T and put his hands out shrugging his shoulders with a wide-eyed, "what did i do?" expression

anyway, thx for the info; if EA's dev team got creative they could implement it in a way that was 'fun', made the game more intense/realistic/challenging but also didn't reflect the NBA in a negative light; ah well

[Andrew]

if EA's dev team got creative they could implement it in a way that was 'fun', made the game more intense/realistic/challenging but also didn't reflect the NBA in a negative light; ah well

No, they couldn't; the NBA won't allow them to include unsportsmanlike technicals, period. The NBA has final say over things like that (as well as the release date) so unless they change their stance there's no way they'll be implemented. That seems unlikely, though they did relent on realistic player salaries so I guess we can't say for sure.

[Clutch]

though they did relent on realistic player salaries so I guess we can't say for sure

never say never i guess; i just wish they'd brainstorm it at least, since it's part of the real life game, maybe implement it somehow... say if you're overly aggressive and hitting the 'steal' button fifty million times for instance; just something that has nothing to do with fighting/arguing but does make techs a part of the game not necessarily in a negative aspect but an added gameplay/strategy feature to take into account during games; i know in earlier versions of Live (or it might've been the sega series) you could intentionally 'bump' the opposition and make them lose the ball - sometimes w/a foul, sometimes not; it was a great feature and really added to strategy; anyway, thx for the feedback 'drew

[Andrew]

It still comes down to implementing a technical foul that the NBA won't approve of, until such time as they change their stance. They did actually bring back the handcheck/push ability in recent games though; if you keep tapping the steal button your player will push/bump the opponent similar to the old handcheck button.

[Clutch]

They did actually bring back the handcheck/push ability in recent games though; if you keep tapping the steal button your player will push/bump the opponent similar to the old handcheck button.

sorry andrew but that's just weird to me then; i forget which ver i played (it could've been the sega series) but if you got really good at it, you could 'check'/shove your opponent practically every play causing them to loose the ball; sometimes it was a foul, sometimes not; but it was less a concern when you had 6 fouls per player so you could basically do it all game which got painfully annoying and ridiculous; it was the sure fire way to win games and would drive my coworkers nuts because they were always getting shoved and loosing the ball; quickly it caught on and became 'standard defense tactics' and the games basically turned into shoving matches

i would think if that 'bump' feature was recently re-added, EA would want some kind of check/balance to it (such as Technical fouls); that way it still could be a viable strategy option in certain circumstances but at a heavy price (ejection if done too often) and not become a silly advantage for players who mastered it; again just imho

[Andrew]

You're right, it was much easier in the older versions of the game. However, handchecking has nothing to do with technical fouls or their inclusion in the game. As currently implemented, the ability to shove/bump players is basically another means of committing an intentional foul/hard foul to stop a basket.

[Clutch]

handchecking has nothing to do with technical fouls or their inclusion in the game

fair enough andrew; was just using excessive 'bumping' as an example of how they might be able to rule it a Tech as opposed to a regular foul (ex: handchecking/bumping a guy once is one thing; but maybe doing so 5+ times to the same guy consecutively is another); not really a "negative" thing but more like a "let's keep this clean fellas" penalty/warning; i dunno

bottom line, just wish there was some way to implement Techs somehow since TFs are part of real NBA basketball; for NBA Live's sake? i'd like it for 1) added realism; 2) strategy 3) sudden suprising shifts of momentum and having to make adjustments on the fly only (not promotion of violence, negative player/NBA imagery etc)

guess that's why this is called the 'wishlist'; anyway, thx for the feedback

[Andrew]

Absolutely, if implemented properly they could be a fine addition. Unfortunately incidents like the Palace Brawl have made the notoriously image conscious NBA even more concerned about appearances so they probably won't relent on this one. Then again, that's what we said about realistic salaries so I guess we'll see.

[tmac01magics]

that'll be really cool
love to see guys get thrown out of a game

[PcM_aDz]

sorry, the onnly techs you'll get in the game will be from defensive 3 second calls.

There is another technical foul that they call, its the Tech Call when you still press the timeout button even though you have no more timeouts left..

[BigKaboom2]

Why are you bumping this thread again? That post you're replying to is from June.

[bigh0rt]

Why are you bumping this thread again? That post you're replying to is from June.

Yet he's contributed to the thread and added correct information that I didn't see anywhere else in the thread. No need to play hall monitor here. Sure, the thread started in June, but was last posted in in August, which at the rate we've been going at for awhile now, doesn't seem like all that long ago.

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