Full HD vs HD Ready. Whats the difference ?

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Full HD vs HD Ready. Whats the difference ?

Postby weltmann on Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:24 am

can anyone tell me the difference between tv´s that have a "Full HD" and "HD Ready" label? i want to buy a xbox soon and therefore a new tv also. i mainly play 2k and live series basketball. so is there any difference in the picture quality?

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Postby volsey on Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:43 am

Full HD is 1080p.

HD ready is 720p/1080i.

Full HD is not really needed unless your tv is AT LEAST 45'' or bigger, anything less than that is just not noticeable unless your using your tv also as a computer monitor. Almost all of the tv thats broadcast in HD is in 720p and no higher. And also since your getting a x360 there is really no reason to be needing a 1080p tv since it cant display anything at 1080p. (maybe the Elite can because of the hdmi output though?)
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Postby weltmann on Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:46 pm

great. thakns volsey :D
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Postby Ty-Land on Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:27 pm

The X360 can do 1080p now since last year. They managed to get it up to that level, and therefore take away another one of the 'advantages' the PS3 was meant to have over the 360.
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Postby weltmann on Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:05 am

so is there a difference in picture quality when i play a xbox360 game on a hd ready or full hd tv ?
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Postby volsey on Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:30 am

Ty-Land wrote:The X360 can do 1080p now since last year. They managed to get it up to that level, and therefore take away another one of the 'advantages' the PS3 was meant to have over the 360.


Hey I'm no PS3 fanboy or anything like that if that's what your thinking. But I know for sure that unless you have an 360 Elite, your not going to be able to play anything in 1080p simply because component cables can only go up to 1080i. And I doubt even the Elite can to 1080p because thats just kind weird to only have less than half of your console packages be able to output 1080p while the other packages can't.

Anyways doesn't really matter, 1080p is not a big deal at all unless you have HUGE tv, and even then it depends how far away you sit from it.
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Postby Joe' on Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:34 am

[Actually, the difference between 1080p and 1080i is already noticeable with 37-inches TV's (I've seen it for myself). And 37" isn't actually "HUGE".

LCD and Plasma TV's, unlike old CRT's, are natively progressive, so if the signal is interlaced, they have to deinterlace it to display it, and deinterlacing produces artifacts.

Most of the times deinterlacing is done by either weaving or blending.
Weaving means adding consecutive fields together, and when the image changes between fields, a jagged edge is formed.
Blending, instead, means blending consecutive frames to be displayed as a single frame. By blending the image, the image loses vertical resolution and quality.

So yeah, if you have the money, get a 1080p TV.
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Postby Steve [The Spiderman] on Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:03 am

Yeah 1080p is the way to go for the tv. And the xbox 360 elite due to its 1080p is the better choice as well.
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Postby hammertime23 on Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:05 am

well i dont have an xbox 360 elite, i have the normal xbox 360 and i am in the process of looking for an hd tv. So would there be any point of me getting a 1080p one or should i just save the money and get 1080i?
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Postby Joe' on Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:23 am

Well, since you don't have the 360 Elite, there's no practical use for the 1080p other than DVD's (and there won't be for at least another 5 years), so I'd say save the money and just get a 720p or 1080i.
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Postby weltmann on Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:20 pm

one more question. how big of a difference is there between the xbox360 core and premium editions ? if i play mainly NBA games and alone. does the 20 GB matter so much when playing sports games ?
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Postby Steve [The Spiderman] on Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:28 am

It's worth it for xbox live and being able to save stuff on the hard drive.
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Postby cheater1034 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:49 pm

I have a 32" samsung 720p hdtv, 32" is a big size for me and my house, and my cousin has a 42" 1080p full hdtv, my 720p is just as good at 32" vs 42" though :)

Unless you get a very big TV, don't worry about 1080p, and most TVs under 40" don't even do 1080p because it's not really necessary.

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Oh, btw xbox 360 does indeed do 1080p if you do the latest software upgrade, but I heard it doesnt work correctly and it's very hard to get it to actually do 1080p, but it does.

just get a ps3 :-p, feature-wise it blows x360 out of the water (wifi and blu-rary), it doesn't have any games yet though.
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Postby ultimateplaya on Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:18 pm

Question: Could a computer monitor that has a native resolution of 1920-1080 pixels display a game at 1080p? Because I've seen 360 games capable of displaying at 1080p and i have a Vga Hd av cable fro computer monitors.
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Postby Joe' on Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:11 pm

Since 1080p is actually 1920x1080, yes.
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Postby ultimateplaya on Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:31 am

Ok thanks.
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Postby ultimateplaya on Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:29 pm

What do you think is better? Size or resolution? For example: Dell 27' Monitor at 1920x1080 or a Samsung 32' LCD TV at 1366x768?
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Postby cyanide on Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:41 pm

ultimateplaya wrote:What do you think is better? Size or resolution? For example: Dell 27' Monitor at 1920x1080 or a Samsung 32' LCD TV at 1366x768?


Personally, and I'm guessing most people would go with resolution. I love the sharpness and detail that high resolution brings that low-res cannot. Quality over quantity.
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Postby Joe' on Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:02 am

Depends. Are you looking for a TV or a monitor? Can you use that Dell monitor as a TV?

It also depends on the luminosity and contrast. Most monitors have really low contrast and, even if the resolution is higher, the quality of the picture will be lower of that of a TV (Nowadays nearly all TV's have 1200:1+ contrast).
If the contrast of that TV is higher than 5000:1, I'd buy it, since there is (almost) no monitor with that contrast level.

Also, since the monitor is 1920x1080, it has, with 90% probability, interlaced scan (1080i), which, for the reasons I said in my post above, is not really a good thing.
IMO 720p>1080i, so I'd go for the TV.
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Postby kevC on Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:23 am

I'm waiting for my PS3 to come in. How do you guys think will a 1080i, 57" TV look like on component cables?
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Postby cyanide on Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:29 am

Joe' wrote:It also depends on the luminosity and contrast.


Ahh, yes. Forgot about those important factors :doh:
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Postby Joe' on Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:29 am

kevC wrote:I'm waiting for my PS3 to come in. How do you guys think will a 1080i, 57" TV look like on component cables?


Does the PS3 not use HDMI? I'm a little uninformed about it.
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Postby benji on Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:49 am

Nah, PS3 has HDMI, infact comes with the cable. I just think KevC's TV doesn't have it. It's a five year old one.
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