NBA live 08 PC

[el badman]

The gameplay is the top priority but I wouldn't say I won't care if the graphics were the same.

It's just crazy that the game looks 90% the same for the past 3 years or even more... the models are about the same the the moves are tweaked a bit every year but never the less stay the same old thing.

Yeah, while gameplay should obviously be an improvement priority for the developers, I'd be pretty pissed if once again we get the lousy models, the blurry jerseys, the horrible player creation interface, the ugly shoes, the billboard-looking crowds,.....
Shit, we deserve a bit of eye-candy at some point

[Num33Baller]

wouldn't it be easier to port from one MS platform to the other?

To some degree yes, the original X-Box runs on Windows CE which is an extremely stripped down version of Windows 2000.

However, untill just a year and a half ago the average PC* didn't have the hardware to keep up with the X-Box**. In fact, if you check on any Oblivion message boards(a game where the pc version is a direct port of the x-box game)many people's computers still aren't even up to current-gen horsepower yet. The average PC caught up to the lesser powered PS2 less than a year after it's release.

*note: by average pc i mean the average computer most people had in their homes, not the highest-end overclocked machine available.
**keeping in mind the average PC(read above)uses a lot of it's memory and CPU running the OS, virus protection, messenger, aim, and dozens of other programs in the background. Consoles dedicate nearly all resources to gaming and just gaming.

P.S. Looking forward to seeing how you twist my words around this time.

True.

I thought EA would be smart enough now to port from the xbox to the PC.

apparently not.

Most computers today are up to par with the X-Box.

['Sheed]

I think EA can easily make the graphics better, including the all shirt winding stuff.
you can see its working in Virtua Tennis 3, the shirts moving, the graphics good, and its on PC.

[diddy]

i give you 100% that:
1. it's gonna be pc ver. of 08
2. next gen

if not, ea going to loss a lllloooooooooooooooottttttttttttttttt of money!

[Andrew]

I think EA can easily make the graphics better, including the all shirt winding stuff.
you can see its working in Virtua Tennis 3, the shirts moving, the graphics good, and its on PC.

It's not so much the PC platform as the platform the game is ported from. PC NBA Live is ported from Current Gen and as long as that remains the case it will be hampered by the same restrictions despite the capabilities of a high-end PC.

[bosiydid6]

How many more years can they keep the same graphics. We are now going on 3 maybe 4 years with essentially ZERO change. The crowd looks beyond goofy, this is a major negative for me. How can you project any type of environment or pageantry of a real NBA game when the arena is dead, full of cardboard cutouts. Obviously gameplay is and should be the major point of focus but comeon throw us a bone every 2 or 3 years not once a decade.

I can honestly state that this will be my last go around with NBALive if they don't deliver. I'm looking for a marked improvement in the quality of the game, not new art on the cover and a game full of bugs. I'd be OK if they put in LESS new stuff but work out the issue of last year, the graphic glitches, primacy issues and game play (collisions, rebounds etc.) I know they are working or are said to be working on some of this stuff, but I don't want empty promises, they MUST deliver. Last year they sodomized us with that crap they put out. It was an awful game and if this year the result is similar then EA should FIRE every single guy on that team. From the producer to the janitors that sweeps the floors there.

[seedfred08]

yahh youe right about that the almost do some new stuffbut the graphics ako worst men i hope this year they will do the small things first before the big thing and i hope this year hey will improved may be 50% i hope

[Lean]

If you would ask me, they should make slight improvements on the graphics. The gameplay is my main concern(and most of us here do care for gameplay more).

[Andrew]

Most of the graphical improvements are going to come on the Next Gen platforms. As I said before, as long as the PC continues to be a port of Current Gen it's going to suffer from the same limitations despite the capabilities of high-end PCs because they're not going to invest time, money and effort in a platform that's been superceded.

['Sheed]

So, why dont change the Current Gen graphics?
the all 'port of' thing is a bad excuse, they can make it as Sega did with Virtua Tennis 3.

[Patr1ck]

They don't make much money with the PC version. Remember that Virtua Tennis has a maximum of 4 players playing at one time and the stadiums aren't as big as basketball arenas, so there are less fans which means they can up the graphics. Also, the current gen game engine needs to be updated, I think we all experienced how old and unoptimized it is for modern pc hardware this year.

Everybody wants next-gen graphics or even something inbetween next gen and current gen for pc. I have realized it is not going to happen anytime soon, because they just don't make money off the pc version. Check out there revenue. I don't know how to get information on a single game but the charts show they make most of their money in the console market, like most game companies do.

[el badman]

That's actually more than what I thought when it comes to PC sales. If it's EA's total figures, I guess it's because it includes the Battlefield series, LOTR, and other games like that...
Anyway you look at it, even with the bright prospects that Vista now represents for PC gaming (fingers crossed...), NBA Live's future on PC looks pretty grim...

[Andrew]

So, why dont change the Current Gen graphics?
the all 'port of' thing is a bad excuse, they can make it as Sega did with Virtua Tennis 3.

Again, it's certainly possible but just because one developers chooses to port a Next Gen game to the PC it doesn't mean another developer will do the same, particularly when they're still developing a Current Gen game that they can port across. Furthermore, just because something may be possible with one game does not mean it's feasible with another.

For example, THQ's WWE games feature characters that look amazing lifelike, but the arenas are generic and the loading times are much longer compared to NBA Live. Each game presents a different situation that is affected differently by the hardware limitations. It's not a bad excuse, it's just the way it is.

What it comes down to is that EA Sports' competition and biggest revenue exists on the consoles, so they're not going to place their focus on a corner of the market that isn't as profitable; it wouldn't be good business sense and at some point that has to come into the equation. Unfortunately for those of us who prefer to play the game on the PC, we are the smaller, less profitable corner of the market.

Hopefully the PC version will eventually be ported from the Next Gen version (most likely when Current Gen is phased out and Next Gen is the only generation games are being developed for) and then we can enjoy the same benefits with the PC version. However, the unfortunate reality is that although we PC users are amongst the most loyal NBA Live fans, in the grand scheme of things were are not the most numerous and as such, it's a corner of the market that isn't a priority. It sucks but that's the situation.

['Sheed]

I'm not saying it should to be done, i'm just saying it can be done with a little effort, and our PC's are more the capable dealing with those type of graphics games.

[Andrew]

It certainly can be done, I'm not arguing that PCs would be incapable of running a Next Gen port or that the PC version shouldn't be ported from the Next Gen version. I'm just saying that's not the situation with Live, likely because the PC version isn't a priority.

[michaelc37]

come on guys, i think there definitely will be a PC version of live 08. Unless EA is STUPIDER than i thought. Think about it, The PC version is the only one that they can force us to buy; there aint no other competition on the PC for basket ball games. On the console side of it, every one knows by now that live got owned by 2K series and the owenage seems to increase every year. I know PC sales are less than console, but PC is the only system that EA has garanteed sales. Look at how 2K has progressed over the years, and how live has gotten worse. EVEN IF live 08 is better than 2K(which cant be by much), I think 2K will get more sales than live 08 (console), cuz of the great reputation it has developed over the years from SATISFYING basketball gamers. Luckily for nba live, 2K has never released a PC version, so EA will definitely take advantage of that. As to whether the PC version will be as good as next gen consoles? that remains to be seen; remember last year, next gen had 75 different player attributes and we got all excited about it, then after buying the pc version it only had a few. . Well I guess that didnt matter since all versions sucked anyway.

[Andrew]

Absolutely, as I've said before I believe we can expect a PC version until we hear otherwise. I think a lot of people remain wary about it though due to NBA Live 2002's console-only release and the focus shifting to the console market in general.

[Sauru]

that chart can be really misleading if it covers everything EA related.

[Andrew]

I don't think the ratio of PC units to console units sold would be much different if the figures were limited to NBA Live.

[Sauru]

well what i am saying is, i think it would actually hurt the pc live fans. use the same chart, take away anything sims related. now show me ea numbers

[Andrew]

Ah, fair enough. In that case I agree, I wouldn't be surprised if the figures were at least slightly less favourable for the PC market as far as Live is concerned.

[nalcazar]

better AIACT,graphics, real dunks and lay up, more the xbox on pc

[seedfred08]

i hope there will be a pc version

[Andrew]

i hope there will be a pc version

As mentioned once or twice in this thread, it seems safe to assume there'll be a PC version of NBA Live 08 until we hear otherwise. However, as far as new developments the focus is on the Next Gen consoles.

[les paul]

i hope there will be a pc version

As mentioned once or twice in this thread, it seems safe to assume there'll be a PC version of NBA Live 08 until we hear otherwise. However, as far as new developments the focus is on the Next Gen consoles.

I saw from Easports website that nbalive08 PC is included in the pre-order list, it automaticaly means there would be a PC version this year.. just check the pre-order list form easports.com http://eastore.ea.com/shopping/browse/d ... word=nba08