The Official NLSC GS WARRIORS fans' thread.

[Indy]

It doesn't matter what Dirk did in the playoffs. The votes are already in. They vote before the playoffs even start so that it is completely based off of the regular season.

[jonthefon]

Which is why the best player in the playoffs gets a shiny new Finals MVP trophy and most likely, a ring

[Dean]

I dont think you can win Finals MVP without winning the Championship, so the Trophy would come hand in hand with the ring.

[Drex]

IIRC, the first Finals MVP went to Jerry West but the Lakers lost the '69 Finals. Let me check that, brb.

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[skip2mahbaby]

It's weird to see someone who's been awwarded MVP and his team is not even in the 2nd round...But I still think that Dirk is MVP for the regular season.


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[hova-]

I think the Playoffs have even more proven that Dirk is the MVP of the season although it wasnt the best way to show it.
Dirk was choking. And Dallas lost. Thats quite simple. Terry, Howard were playing in their normal shape. But it wasnt enough, because Dirk struggled.
That pretty much shows his importance and why he should be the MVP for the season which was a pretty impressive one by the Mavs.

[cheater1034]

It will not be nowitzki.
It won't be kobe.
I don't want it to be nash (he got it twice in a row).
I doubt it will be LeBron, T-MAC, Timmy D, or any of the lower canidates.

To me it looks like it will be nash even though I really don't want it to be

[Indy]

I'm really rooting hard for Nash to win it again.

[1CenT]

I think the Playoffs have even more proven that Dirk is the MVP of the season although it wasnt the best way to show it.
Dirk was choking. And Dallas lost. Thats quite simple. Terry, Howard were playing in their normal shape. But it wasnt enough, because Dirk struggled.
That pretty much shows his importance and why he should be the MVP for the season which was a pretty impressive one by the Mavs.

thats actually a almost flawless argument.. if Dirk is stopped ( or chokes ) they will even lose to a 8th seeder...

If nash shot mediocre and was stopped hard by an insane defender, i still think suns can beat a 8th seed

[Carmo]

You want your best player to step up at the right time. How that is a flawless argument I do not know...

[TSquared]

officially out!! GSW vs UTH... hmm..i doubt GSW can match up against the Jazz... Even the Rockets didn't fight back... Coz i'm seeing it as.. no matter who the Warriors go up against.. Either the Rockets or the Jazz.. I think they still don't have the chance against both.. But hey.. Nobody expected the Warriors to beat the sh!t out of the Mavs..

[1CenT]

You want your best player to step up at the right time. How that is a flawless argument I do not know...

its flawless, the MVP of the season goes to Dirk, he rarely choked, the whole season...

So people are saying, o ya Dallas is great, cuz they got a deep team with Howard, Terry, athletic inside presences in Diop and Dampier, bench play from JStack, great future in Harris..

Now you see the effects, Dirk isn't playing well, team loses..

[1CenT]

officially out!! GSW vs UTH... hmm..i doubt GSW can match up against the Jazz... Even the Rockets didn't fight back... Coz i'm seeing it as.. no matter who the Warriors go up against.. Either the Rockets or the Jazz.. I think they still don't have the chance against both.. But hey.. Nobody expected the Warriors to beat the sh!t out of the Mavs..

I think it would of went 6 games in Rockets favour, if Rockets beat the Jazz, Yao will be able to score in da post, giving Warriors problems, but it won't be a big problem...

However, Tmac will be able to break loose, prob score 30 points and dish out 10 assists... Unlike Dirk, Tmac can put da ball down on da floor.. And he is as athletic and long as Barnes/Pietris... Also Houston's def, i think it will be able to contain and slow down Warriors, but we'll never know..

Jazz however, i think will rape the Warriors.. Jazz played great at home, it showed against Houston..

Deron is good matched up against Baron, Baron won't be as dominant as his series against Mavs, but he'll be great of course.. Boozer is strong inide, him and Okur will give Warriors problem.. Dallas on the other hand, had Diop and Dampier, lol big diff..

Look for boozer to go for 30 ppg and guys like Harping, Gircek, AK47, MIllsap will have easy time scoring, as thye are quite strong or athletic or both.. who can definately match up with da players on the Warriors..

I expect the series to go 5 or 6... Warriors will prob be able to blow out a game or maybe 2 when they r hot and jazz have a cold shooting game ( that is not gonna happen often as Sloan's offence is all about execution getting them dunks and layups and open jumpers )

[hova-]

You want your best player to step up at the right time. How that is a flawless argument I do not know...

its flawless, the MVP of the season goes to Dirk, he rarely choked, the whole season...

So people are saying, o ya Dallas is great, cuz they got a deep team with Howard, Terry, athletic inside presences in Diop and Dampier, bench play from JStack, great future in Harris..

Now you see the effects, Dirk isn't playing well, team loses..

Exactly. Man, I know I have a Dirk sig and actually Im a fan since he is the only German who ever made it in my favorite league.
But I am not a fanboy who doesnt see the reality. If Nash should make it that would also be a right decision. He is so important for the Suns you cant almost spell it out. But I think same goes for Dirk many of you just dont see it because he is not a distributing point guard and doesnt have a very appealing playing style.

[Axel]

I never thought Dirk was the MVP to begin with. His defense is abysmal; at least Nash is among the league leaders in charges drawn. Dirk is a horrible passer, and the double teaming on him in this series proved that. He is nothing more than a scorer - a one dimensional player. Dirk should not be given credit (and by that I mean the MVP) because his team had the fewest amount of injuries this season, which is a large reason as to why they were the number one seed. Dirk didn't improve upon his numbers from previous years, where as Nash has continued to improve. Nash can get his own shot, and shots for others.

I hope he wins it again this year, but from the sound of things, Dirk won it. I know the MVP is a regular season award, but one would think that an award as big as that would include postseason play as well. Finals MVP covers only one series, and excludes the other 3.

[Axel]

officially out!! GSW vs UTH... hmm..i doubt GSW can match up against the Jazz... Even the Rockets didn't fight back... Coz i'm seeing it as.. no matter who the Warriors go up against.. Either the Rockets or the Jazz.. I think they still don't have the chance against both.. But hey.. Nobody expected the Warriors to beat the sh!t out of the Mavs..

Tough matchup for the Warriors. Utah has equal athleticism in Boozer and Williams to match up with the Warriors. I'm expecting Don Nelson to really try to take advantage of the SG position, which is the weakest for the Jazz.

This series is going to be a really tough one. I'm expecting it to be like the Suns/Clippers match up last year. The Warriors lack the inside presence like Phoenix did last year, and Utah has strength in the middle like LAC. Best bet is to try to run them off the floor.... hope that Memo can't keep up with Al (who needs a really big series). I doubt we'll see a lot of Andris this series either.

I have faith in Don Nelson though. He'll probably find a matchup to exploit that no one even thought to look at.

[Andrew]

Exactly. Man, I know I have a Dirk sig and actually Im a fan since he is the only German who ever made it in my favorite league.

What about Detlef Schrempf? Nowitzki may have eclipsed him having become a franchise player in Dallas but Schrempf had a fine career in the NBA as well.

[shadowgrin]

Wasn't 'The Threat' a choker as well?

You want your best player to step up at the right time. How that is a flawless argument I do not know...

Your best player isn't necessarily your most valuable player and vice-versa.

[Andrew]

Wasn't 'The Threat' a choker as well?

I wouldn't say he ever stood out as a big time choke artist, mainly because you've got to stand out as a franchise player to gain that kind of reputation.

[shadowgrin]

big time choke artist, mainly because you've got to stand out as a franchise player to gain that kind of reputation.

Nick Anderson.

That guy just flat out disappeared after those missed FT's

[hova-]

Exactly. Man, I know I have a Dirk sig and actually Im a fan since he is the only German who ever made it in my favorite league.

What about Detlef Schrempf? Nowitzki may have eclipsed him having become a franchise player in Dallas but Schrempf had a fine career in the NBA as well.

Schrempf was surely the best behind Nowitzki but he aint too popular in Germany because he did not want to play for the national squad and was kind of ignoring his roots in Germany a bit .. maybe because he went to College which Nowitzki did not do.
And I think there is a huge different between both when it comes to their achievements.
Most of you maybe cannot imagine how soccer-dominated this country is. I mean I play soccer by myself although I am a big basketball fan. And the fact that we have an All-NBA 1st team player is more than incredible and wont happen again in the next 20 years since there are not too many good prospects from Germany since B-Ball is just not popular here.

[1CenT]

big time choke artist, mainly because you've got to stand out as a franchise player to gain that kind of reputation.

Nick Anderson.

That guy just flat out disappeared after those missed FT's

I bet his life was threaten many times, i was a huge Magic fan, and after those FT's, i think Nick Anderson disappeared ( his game ) for 1.5 seasons until he started to hit a good stretch and scored his points again... He was i think a mid 70's % ft shooter until those 4 misses and and he shot in the 60's since then, also reminds you on how Duncan had a season where he shot in the 70's then his % dropped, same as Shaq, i think his 2nd season he shot it at 59%...

I dont' get it...

And i think its a good comparison , say Warriors are really that good, then you have a good comparison between them and Suns of last year.. which i think can take out the Jazz... However, the Suns of last year, had Steve Nash which i think is much better shooter also has a much better shooting team so you can't really defend them by clogging the lanes.. However Warriors seem more like a slashing team with very streaky shooting.. Which in my opinion against the Jazz is a disadvanage..

[Silas]

the warriors are also stronger defensively than the suns last year... but in all honesty you can make a lot of real good predictions yet because you haven't really seen this warriors squad play at this level against any of these teams yet.

[Andrew]

big time choke artist, mainly because you've got to stand out as a franchise player to gain that kind of reputation.

Nick Anderson.

That guy just flat out disappeared after those missed FT's

That's true, I hadn't thought of that way. Still, Anderson was placed in a position to win an NBA Finals game and blew the opportunity. I don't recall Schrempf ever being in the same sort of situation and coming up short. The Sonics/Nuggets series in 1994 comes to mind I suppose but that was a case of the whole team collapsing rather than Schrempf alone having a chance to get the job done and not following through.

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I was just thinking "KEEP BOOZER OFF THE OFFENSIVE GLASS", and he grabs the offensive board and puts it in. Huge possesion for Golden State right here.