Kenneth Eng: Asian Supremacist

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Kenneth Eng: Asian Supremacist

Postby mvpshaq32 on Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:00 pm

This guy has gained quite a bit of attention ever since his "Why I hate Blacks" article was published in AsianWeek. My teacher was the one who brought up this guy and showed us the article.
Why I Hate Blacks/Asians
Why White People Hate Us

I am Asian myself and I feel some of these comments are a pretty harsh and not entirely true. However, some of his comments are realistic based on where I live.
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Postby [Q] on Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:29 pm

I agree with the "Why White People Hate Us" for the most part. I mean, it's very hard to see Asians on TV or in the movies that don't do karate or work on computers... for once, I'd like to see an Asian as the "normal" guy, kinda like in Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle.

As far as the "why I hate blacks/asians", those are racists remarks by a racist. I'm curious to find out how old this guy is because he sounds like a bitter, old Asian that has nothing better to do than bitch and moan. My Grandma and her brothers were/are racist against blacks. That is until her niece got married to one of them. It took her brother a long time, but he eventually warmed up to the idea of a black man being an important part of his daughter's life. Never have I experienced anything to make me even think that "blacks hate us". Sure, maybe some occasionial ribbing do to your usual Asian jokes, but nothing anybody else wouldn't do. Frankly, i am ashamed to be Asian when I see that because people see that and begin to think that all asians think that way, and it makes me look bad.
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Postby mvpshaq32 on Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:43 pm

This guy is in his 20's.
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Postby cyanide on Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:51 pm

It's sad to see hatred coming from him in regards to ethnicity, but it's even sadder that his hatred stems from his experiences of backlash from other ethnicities.
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Postby --- on Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:49 pm

Racism towards asians is a very common thing over here. I agree with the "Why whites hate us" from what I have seen but the "Why I hate blacks" thing is bullshit. I never see a black guy expressing racism towards asians other than the usual joke as Q said. In fact, I barely ever see a minority expressing racism towards another minority, unless it was brought on by something. I agree with him when he says racism towards blacks is perceived as so much more of a big deal than racism towards asians.

The reason racism towards asians over here is so common is, and I say this in the nicest way possible (and no I am not racist), is that they bring it among themselves. When you go out, there are much more asians than there are regular NZers. They come here to learn and the majority of them can't converse with the average person because they can barely speak english. I think alot of people get sick of walking down the streets of there own town and hearing foreign asian languages being spoken far more than english.

There are some things that get people really angry over here with asians. When you country is "overrun" by them (sorry but it is), the slightest thing can set some people off. Things like bad asian drivers. For the most part, at least here, the stereotype is true. The fact that it is impossible to deal with them is a huge annoyance to some people. It seems like the own residents and citizens of the country have to bring a translator round with them, as if they were the foreigner. One other thing is asians using the fact they are asian to their advantage. I have seen on many occasions and asian get into trouble (eg. getting pulled up by the police) and pretend to not speak english to try get out of it. One time in town I saw a young guy ask an asian student for 50c so he can get home, and the guy pretended to not be able to speak english. Problem is, he was speaking english with his friends right before, and both the guy and I heard him. The result was the guy asking for money expressing racism towards him.

Personally, I think the fact that there are simply to many isn't the main problem. That wouldn't be a problem if they could speak english. Then NZ would seem like NZ again.

I'm sorry to all asians if I sound racist, I really don't mean to sound like that, but its hard to speak about the problems with another race without sounding like that.

Chai Vang righteously killed six white people after they approached him with guns first. Unlike the “men” who murdered Vincent Chin, brave Mr. Vang was sentenced to life.


No asian heroes, you say? :headbang:
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Postby mvpshaq32 on Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:07 pm

The Kenneth guy, I'm pretty sure lives in San Francisco (as do I) and the comments he makes are pretty accurate to me based on what I see everyday. I agree with the article on how cops kind of let things slide for white people (I'm not a racist either). A couple months ago, there was an Asian kid eating at this pizza place. He was by himself and four or five white kids were eating there too. Then they just suddenly assault the Asian kid and when the cops came, they did catch the White kids, but let them go without any punishment.

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Chai Vang righteously killed six white people after they approached him with guns first. Unlike the “men” who murdered Vincent Chin, brave Mr. Vang was sentenced to life.


No asian heroes, you say? :headbang:


In movies who aren't stereotyped.
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Postby Matt on Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:33 pm

Flite is on point....same thing in Australia

you forgot to mention though that most Asians (that are not born here) are obnoxious retards in public. It's like they don't have any volume control. They basically scream when talking w/o care who's around them.
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Postby --- on Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:17 pm

you forgot to mention though that most Asians (that are not born here) are obnoxious retards in public. It's like they don't have any volume control. They basically scream when talking w/o care who's around them.


I gotta agree. Another thing is the smoking, alot of them seem to have no courtesy as to where they smoke, blowing it out right into peoples faces as they walk by, etc.

mvpshaq32, about the hero thing, that was a joke, but that guy is awesome.
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Postby diddy on Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:29 pm

i understand why american people hate most part of immegrants, if they are asian or mexican or smth! it's like Russia - we've a LOT of kaukazian, azerbaidjan, gruzin and such people! and ALL russians HATE THEM, coz those people come to foreign country and feeling as they were at home, and most part of them are without education, and they won't work! they are only trading some stuff on the streets like gold cellphones .... in Russia they can be called Barigi ! and 2 mounth ago there was a big conflict in one small city - 5 kaukazian people killed 2 or 3 russian boys at the disco, they use cold weapons! after that kaukazian clan get that 5 bastards to police! and government desided to land ALL the kaukaziand from their disrict AWAY! i think BIG countries Shouldn't accept imigrating parasits people at their countries! people, who only live for somebody's money, doesn't work and only making freaking children!
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Postby [Q] on Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:58 pm

Matt wrote:Flite is on point....same thing in Australia

you forgot to mention though that most Asians (that are not born here) are obnoxious retards in public. It's like they don't have any volume control. They basically scream when talking w/o care who's around them.


yes, they are called "FOBs". Fresh Off The Boat. there are a lot of FOBs here that were born here too. It pisses me off. My school of 30,000 students or so is over 50% asian so it's pretty noticable. there are A LOT of FOBs here that don't speak English and can't drive, so it seems like a lot of people here think this school is "overrun" by them like Flite pointed out. I hate FOBs. They make me and every other white-washed Asian look bad. They should learn English. or at least use it more.

j/k, but not really. i don't hate them, but they just really annoy me.
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Postby Matt on Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:19 am

FOB's, hahaha, like on that movie "Dude, Where's The Party"

"don't invite the FOBs"
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Postby DatYellowGuy on Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:56 am

Sadly, I would have to agree to what he's saying. I mean, when I'm out the group that I have a highest chance of hearing a racist remark towards me are from Blacks.
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Postby Jeffx on Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:26 am

Qballer wrote:I agree with the "Why White People Hate Us" for the most part. I mean, it's very hard to see Asians on TV or in the movies that don't do karate or work on computers... for once, I'd like to see an Asian as the "normal" guy, kinda like in Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle.

As far as the "why I hate blacks/asians", those are racists remarks by a racist. I'm curious to find out how old this guy is because he sounds like a bitter, old Asian that has nothing better to do than bitch and moan. My Grandma and her brothers were/are racist against blacks. That is until her niece got married to one of them. It took her brother a long time, but he eventually warmed up to the idea of a black man being an important part of his daughter's life. Never have I experienced anything to make me even think that "blacks hate us". Sure, maybe some occasionial ribbing do to your usual Asian jokes, but nothing anybody else wouldn't do. Frankly, i am ashamed to be Asian when I see that because people see that and begin to think that all asians think that way, and it makes me look bad.



Q, I think Asians(and Indians) need to be more vocal and stand up to the racist forces in society. There is this perception of Asians & Indians being "model minorities". People will keep f-n with you if they think they can get away with it. But this Kenneth Eng is nothing but a tool. His remarks about blacks & slavery show he's ignorant of history.

The TV & Hollywood Asian stereotypes will only change once you get more Asians behind the scenes(writing & directing). That's true for every group.

As for blacks hating asians(and vice versa), no group is free from prejudice. Racism will be here until doomsday. Folks don't have to like/or live with each other, but we do need to respect and understand each other's differences. If I hate someone, it's not based on skin color - it's based on their stupid & ignorant views.

I have nothing but love for my asian brothers(and sisters too :wink: )
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Postby mvpshaq32 on Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:12 am

Qballer wrote:
Matt wrote:Flite is on point....same thing in Australia

you forgot to mention though that most Asians (that are not born here) are obnoxious retards in public. It's like they don't have any volume control. They basically scream when talking w/o care who's around them.


yes, they are called "FOBs". Fresh Off The Boat. there are a lot of FOBs here that were born here too. It pisses me off. My school of 30,000 students or so is over 50% asian so it's pretty noticable. there are A LOT of FOBs here that don't speak English and can't drive, so it seems like a lot of people here think this school is "overrun" by them like Flite pointed out. I hate FOBs. They make me and every other white-washed Asian look bad. They should learn English. or at least use it more.

j/k, but not really. i don't hate them, but they just really annoy me.


FOB's in the correct term is foreign-born, but the ABC's started saying Fresh-off-the-Boat a while ago. I am a FOB myself, but I've been in America for around 10 years. In my school, the Asians are pretty much split into three groups.
The HK's-Dress out of the ordinary and all the guys have dyed bangs on one side.
The FOB's-NorthFace backpacks, NorthFace Jackets, dyed bangs, diamond earring on left ear. Talking in Chinese and English.
The White-washed Asians-No friends, don't know shit about their own culture or speak little Chinese.
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Postby Jackal on Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:44 am

Asians aren't very discriminated here. My boss has this thing against a chinese co-worker, but the guy just keeps giggling like a girl about it so it doesn't surprise me the boss keeps making cracks about it.

He's never tried it with me though. Then again...they see me as Antillian opposed to Indian (even though both my parents/grandparents) are full blood Indians. That has to do with the fact that me & two other Antillian guys converse in Papiaments constantly, so they keep feeling we're talking about them.

Till date no one has taken a shot at me because of the color of my skin or because I just look Indian.
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Postby Gedas on Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:46 am

Wait...so Jackal is not Estonian?
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Postby Jackal on Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:49 am

:lol: Estonian? People have thought I'm white, black & hispanic ...but Estonian? Why in heavens name did you think I was Estonian? :lol: :lol:
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Postby Gedas on Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:56 am

Well it came natural, since you perfectly fit the average Estonian character :lol:
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Postby Jackal on Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:46 am

I take that as an insult. After Heido, I can only take that as an insult. :shake:
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Postby Abctest123 on Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:54 pm

I think the FOBs I know of are closer to what Qballer has spoke about. The FOBs that mvpshaq32 describes IMHO are closer to ABCs, or CBCs (depending on American or Canadian), who dress normally, but speak a fairly even mix, but at times speak somewhat more Chinese than English. The fact that a lot of them are really cocky in general and about the fact their FOBs doesn't exactly help. My school is pretty much 47.5% Chinese and 47.5% "Brown" as in all the Sri Lankan, Indian, and Pakistanian(if I'm being offensive, sorry, but its the easiest way to group the people), and the remaining 5% is everyone else. For the Chinese people, about half of them are FOBs, which is still a high amount. They all dress the same way, many with dyed hair and stuff, and I don't know if this is true for you mvpshaq32 or Qballer, but the FOB girls also dress like these shirts or sweaters with brands along with a slogan you've never heard of, and wear these jeans that are normal at around the top but they get real tiny once they get to the feet; and for the feet, they wear these REALLY tiny shoes.

Dunno if you understood my description :lol: .
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Postby mvpshaq32 on Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:24 pm

Yes, I understand exactly what you're talking about. I was about to say something like that but couldn't find the right words. That style is from HK and we those people the "HKs." My school has like 50% Asian, 45% African-American and Hispanics and 5% Whites. There's quite a lot of racism between each race. Plenty of times, I've heard Hispanics calling us "Chinks" in spanish, but surprised that some Asians reply back by saying "Wetbacks" in Spanish.
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Postby Jowe on Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:57 pm

Everyone keeps on bringing up the whole high school numbers. Once you outside into the real world the numbers aren't that skewed. The asians grow up, they learn english and in turn speak better then white guys who do nothing but sit around and bitch.

Sure asians aren't great drivers, but its more about the person rather then their ethnic background. I'm sure if you got the statistic's of road deaths it wouldn't read 99% asian 1% everyone else. So stop being so damn racist.
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Postby [Q] on Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:55 pm

mvpshaq32 wrote:
Qballer wrote:
Matt wrote:Flite is on point....same thing in Australia

you forgot to mention though that most Asians (that are not born here) are obnoxious retards in public. It's like they don't have any volume control. They basically scream when talking w/o care who's around them.


yes, they are called "FOBs". Fresh Off The Boat. there are a lot of FOBs here that were born here too. It pisses me off. My school of 30,000 students or so is over 50% asian so it's pretty noticable. there are A LOT of FOBs here that don't speak English and can't drive, so it seems like a lot of people here think this school is "overrun" by them like Flite pointed out. I hate FOBs. They make me and every other white-washed Asian look bad. They should learn English. or at least use it more.

j/k, but not really. i don't hate them, but they just really annoy me.


FOB's in the correct term is foreign-born, but the ABC's started saying Fresh-off-the-Boat a while ago. I am a FOB myself, but I've been in America for around 10 years. In my school, the Asians are pretty much split into three groups.
The HK's-Dress out of the ordinary and all the guys have dyed bangs on one side.
The FOB's-NorthFace backpacks, NorthFace Jackets, dyed bangs, diamond earring on left ear. Talking in Chinese and English.
The White-washed Asians-No friends, don't know shit about their own culture or speak little Chinese.


interesting.
I would say FOBs are more like the people that speak almost entirely in Chinese or whatever language they speak. They speak it to their families and their freinds (because they all hang out in packs). They most likely have dyed their hair brown. They either look borderline gay or stuck up to the point where you would enjoy punching them in the face.

Then there's the baller/gangsta asians wear baggy pants, those flat-billed hats, and sometimes talk gangsta. They play basketball for the most part

then there's the white-washed ones like myself. we either grow up in white suburbia or have really progressive (read: not old-fashioned) parents. Like Jowe said they speak english well or even better than white people. We are in all of your AP classes in high school. and yes, they usually know little or nothing about their own culture... it's mostly due to the fact that it's not really talked about in Asian families, especially if they came from something tragic like the Vietnam War like my family

can't think of any other major asian groups at this point.

btw, what's HK?
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Postby Matt on Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:50 pm

I'm sure if you got the statistic's of road deaths it wouldn't read 99% asian 1% everyone else


perhaps not in this country.....but in China 600 people die from car crashes daily....that's 219,000 people/yr.
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Postby BZ on Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:45 am

btw, what's HK?


HK stands for Hong Kong.. usually Honger in short.

And as for Asian racism and as an Asian myself, I've rarely experienced racism in Canada. There are a few remarks here or there, but usually in a joking manner. I dunno how it is in the states, but it's pretty good in Canada. (Y)

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I'm sure if you got the statistic's of road deaths it wouldn't read 99% asian 1% everyone else


perhaps not in this country.....but in China 600 people die from car crashes daily....that's 219,000 people/yr.


Man, I don't know how to judge those numbers, but last time I was visiting China, the driving was horrible and messy. Most drivers are practically oblivious to traffic lights, shoulder checks, light signals, but their hands are usually on the horn.
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