everybody read and reply please

[Pistol]

Okay my ok/new orleans hornets association will have updates I ahve played numerous games, I'm just kinda ina a pickle with grades , but it will be up I PROMISE, they won't be as frequent though, cuz I wil ladmit i little interest has left it, but there wil lstill be updates...

BUT, I wanna do another association along with this one, but it will be up to you guys...You see I want to do it with an unproven franchise w/ the addition of any unprove players in the league...Like #1 picks who haven't odne anything such as Olowankandi and Joe Smith...So I want you to make up a 12 man roster with unproven stars and then give me a franchise (ex. 76ers) that you think is unproven. More replies the better, I will take most common players and franchise for my association...THANKS

[Lamrock]

dunno if this needed a new topic with CAPS on but oh well. Go with players like:
stromile swift, joe smith, kandi, skita, darko, van horn, tyson chandler, kwame brown, etc.

[Pistol]

skita?

edit: Also, Anyone know of any guards, I have a bunch of Fs and Cs, but I need guards, I got Darius Miles, but no PGs, a little help, and what franchise should I use?

[Lamrock]

N. Tskitishiviti (SP?) Jay Williams is currently in the D-league but not in the game. :/ But there is Shaun Livingston of the Clippers. Go with the Knicks, since most of the busts have massive contracts.

[CMJ3]

Since when was Livingston a bust, he may not be a star but hes still quite young. I think your in need of Yinka Dare to lead this team!

[Pistol]

yinka dare? who is that? What do you guys think about Darius Miles?

[Lamrock]

Since when was Livingston a bust, he may not be a star but hes still quite young. I think your in need of Yinka Dare to lead this team!

Livingston is not a bust, but he wants unproven players. He isn't bad, but not quite 4th pick material. Right now, he probably isn't considered even the best PG of the draft.

[BigKaboom2]

Key notes from Yinka's Wikipedia article:

In the NBA, Dare played 110 games in four seasons with the Nets; in his rookie campaign, Dare played for three minutes (thereby earning over $300,000 per minute and the nickname "The Three-Minute Egg") before getting injured (Knee Injury - Torn ACL) and missing the rest of the season. The Nets left him unprotected during the 1995 expansion draft, but he was not drafted by either the Toronto Raptors or the Vancouver Grizzlies. In his first full season (1995-96), in which he played a personal best 58 out of 82 games, he turned the ball over 72 times while registering no assists. He still holds the NBA record for most consecutive minutes played without an assist. During his four-year career, he would rack up a grand total of four assists accompanied by 96 turnovers, creating one of the worst assists-to-turnover ratios of all time. For his career, he averaged only 2.1 points, 2.6 rebounds, and less than 0.1 assists per game.

By midway through his third season in 1996-97, the search for Dare's first assist had taken on a life of its own. Several times, Nets fans booed when players missed shots that would have earned Dare his first dime. In January, Khalid Reeves missed an open three-pointer, prompting Dare to later say, "Maybe next game I'll get the same thing and get this over with."

A few nights later, Dare ended 77 games and 770 minutes of frustration when he finally got his first assist. Teammate Jayson Williams laughed that Yinka was so happy about his assist that he "came in after the game and started passing out the towels."

Because of his underwhelming performance and distinct name, Dare was subject to frequent ridicule from fans and players. He was commonly referred to (even by his own teammate Kenny Anderson) as "Stinka" Dare or as the "Black Hole", due to the joke that the ball, once in his hands, "disappeared" after one of his frequent turnovers. One writer also said that "Dare" was Nigerian for "comes to NBA without game."

Almost tragicomic was the fact that in spite of his ineptitude, he straight-facedly compared his game to NBA legends like Hakeem Olajuwon, Patrick Ewing and Shaquille O'Neal, stating that "For instance, Shaq is explosive around the basket, and I am, too.", and that "If I play my best, I'll be better than some of the best big men who ever played. I'm going to be an All-Star. In a couple of years I can be an All-Star and play with the best centers in the NBA. The teams that didn't draft me made a mistake." Then he labeled himself "a great defensive center. A great offensive center. An ideal center." Finally he said: "I have high expectations for myself. I'm confident and self-motivated. I've been on my own for a couple of years now and I've come a long way. I plan to play a long time in this league and to do as much as I can for the Nets."

At the end of his third season, his agent, Brad Marshall burst into a postgame press conference and began yelling at Nets coach John Calipari: "Why isn't Yinka Dare playing? It seems to me he deserves to play. He did everything he was asked and still isn't getting an opportunity. Enough is enough. Trade him, waive him, or play him." Calipari chuckled, and replied: "Oh, that will get him playing time," and traded him to the Orlando Magic in 1998, where he was immediately cut and retired soon after.

He played intermittently in other leagues including the Continental Basketball Association and United States Basketball League until 2003.

Brilliant.

[Pistol]

lol...thinking about building team around Darius Miles and Kawme Brown? Still in need of a PG...

[Lamrock]

Antonio Daniels? He has always been decent but he was #4. Deserved?

[Mark.]

[Yeah AD is cool go with him, you could even play D-Miles at PG if nessecary

[Bang]

http://www.angelfire.com/stars/yinka/
^Good info regarding Yinka Dare