Smoke it up....

[BIG GREEN]

I'm a casual smoker now...as in once in a blue. During my teens it was "smoke weed everyday" ..but i'm a little more mature now as it were. I'm never the one that buys the stuff...but im always the one around for a hit of that big green.

Thats a good video by the way..if not a little corney. That should go well with luda's new cleaned up "chris" persona...lol.

[Joe']

I totally agree with Riot. I've never done drugs and never will. People who smoke weed or do other drugs just have no personality, they're doing it just because "cool" people do it.

[BIG GREEN]

so i've done it because i have no personality and was doing it because cool people do it? I'm afraid it's dangerous to paint everyone with such a broad brush.

[Riot]

You do it because you are misguided and immature.

[BIG GREEN]

Yes, because you know me so well...but hey..thats your opinion. You act holier than thou' on these forums because you're over compensating for lack of a definitive purpose in your life...and thats my opinion. I'd like to meet the person in this universe who gave you the authority to pass your judgement as fact on any and every subject and have them shot.

[Riot]

Yes, because you know me so well...but hey..thats your opinion. You act holier than thou' on these forums because you're over compensating for lack of a definitive purpose in your life...and thats my opinion. I'd like to meet the person in this universe who gave you the authority to pass your judgement as fact on any and every subject and have them shot.

Hey man...live your life the way you want to live it just like I'm going to live my life the way I want to live it. It's that simple.

I think you are an idiot. I feel that way mostly because of your choice to smoke. I hope someday your choice will bite you in the ass.

[bigh0rt]

Yes, because you know me so well...but hey..thats your opinion. You act holier than thou' on these forums because you're over compensating for lack of a definitive purpose in your life...and thats my opinion. I'd like to meet the person in this universe who gave you the authority to pass your judgement as fact on any and every subject and have them shot.

Hey man...live your life the way you want to live it just like I'm going to live my life the way I want to live it. It's that simple.

I think you are an idiot. I feel that way mostly because of your choice to smoke. I hope someday your choice will bite you in the ass.

You essentially contradict yourself within the context of the same post. Your statement "live your life the way you want to live it just like I'm going to live my life the way I want to live it" pretty much conflicts with your later statement "I hope someday your choice will bite you in the ass." So you're not really saying "live your life the way you want to" -- you're saying, "live your life the way I see fit or else I hope you suffer because of it" At least it's congruent with your political views.

[Indy]

I think its silly when people say things about how weed will fuck your life up. I've been smoking for a little over 7 years. I used to be like Yohance, all weed, every day, all day, but I've cut back a little bit. I still love smoking blunts, and I'm not about to stop. Riot, you list all these health problems that weed can cause, but then you defend trans-fats. There have been studies that have also showed that marijuana completely erases the possibility of getting alzheimers, you left that part out of your argument. I know there are negative aspects, but I've never had anything negative happen to me as a result, and neither have my friends. I have driven a good 4,000 times at least while stoned, and if anything, I'm a better driver high then I am sober. I've gotten 3 tickets on the Indiana state highways on the way to Pacers games, all sober. While driving stoned, I've never been pulled over once, and believe me, I smoke a lot of weed on my way to pacers games pretty often.

I also find it hilarious when people say they wouldn't even know how to get it. Maybe its because the suburb I grew up in was ranked 7th in the high times list of best places to get weed (I am proud of that by the way ) but I couldn't imagine having a tough time getting bud. There have always been at least 8 or 9 dealers to choose from, and its all really, really good stuff. You would have a tough time finding bad weed here. It's all dank ass hydro, kush, crush, nurple, the best of the best. No seeds around these parts.

Yohance, I think we'd have a great time blazing a blunt and a bong together, and Riot, if you ever blazed you'd have so much fun.

[Donatello]

Hooray for responsible weed smoking.

[benji]

You essentially contradict yourself within the context of the same post. Your statement "live your life the way you want to live it just like I'm going to live my life the way I want to live it" pretty much conflicts with your later statement "I hope someday your choice will bite you in the ass." So you're not really saying "live your life the way you want to" -- you're saying, "live your life the way I see fit or else I hope you suffer because of it"

That's not contradictory at all if you read it all as one cohesive thought instead of seperate ones. He's saying Yohan...Big Green, should live his life the way he wants to, but that he thinks it's poor judgement and that someday he will see the error of his ways. That unfortunately because he thinks it is not bad judgement it will have to "bite him in the ass" in order for him to see it. I'm not saying I agree with Riot, but I think that's clearly his intent there despite the poor wording.

I will not discuss any potential drug use by myself as it's irrelevant. However, a regulatory legalization of marijuana and other drugs would win the "War on Drugs" by eliminating the illict drug trade and allowing corporations to make cheaper, safer commerical weed.

It's what happened to alcohol...

[Riot]

I think its silly when people say things about how weed will fuck your life up.

Silly? There are plenty of examples across the country that would show you that it isn't that "silly" after all.

I've been smoking for a little over 7 years. I used to be like Yohance, all weed, every day, all day, but I've cut back a little bit. I still love smoking blunts, and I'm not about to stop.

Woot! Woot! I'm very happy for you, Indy.

Riot, you list all these health problems that weed can cause, but then you defend trans-fats.

I don't defend trans-fat. In fact, I said they should put a label on the items that contain trans-fat to let people know it is harmful.

There have been studies that have also showed that marijuana completely erases the possibility of getting alzheimers, you left that part out of your argument.

So instead of getting alzheimers you'll end up getting lung cancer, tumors and increase chance in heart attack. Sounds like a great trade.

I know there are negative aspects, but I've never had anything negative happen to me as a result, and neither have my friends.

That means you guys are due for one. The biggest problem with people and smoking (or people and anything) is they don't think it can happen to them. It sounds like you have smoked a lot in your life...I'm willing to bet it will come back and haunt you down the road. You are hurting your body and increasing your chances of lung problems, heart problems and brain problems in the future considerably. Just because nothing has happened now doesn't mean the long term effects won't start showing up.

I have driven a good 4,000 times at least while stoned, and if anything, I'm a better driver high then I am sober. I've gotten 3 tickets on the Indiana state highways on the way to Pacers games, all sober. While driving stoned, I've never been pulled over once, and believe me, I smoke a lot of weed on my way to pacers games pretty often.

First thing first, I am very upset to hear this Indy. I thought you would be a bit more responsible than that. You have been on the road "a good 4,000 times at least" while being stoned? Do you know how dangerous that is to not only yourself but to me and everyone else on the road? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Secondly, just because you have been pulled over while sober and haven't while stoned doesn't mean you are a better driver. It just simply means you were in the right place at the right time. Do you think everytime someone does something bad they get caught? Plus, getting pulled over is not the benchmark of bad driving. You are putting everyone at risk while driving impaired. Did you know 4 to 16 percent of fatally injured drivers had THC in their blood at the time of their crash? Did you know 6 to 12 percent of nonfatally injured drivers had THC in their blood at the time of their crash? And in Baltimore, a study went around and tested that over 32% of all the trauma victims in the hospital at that time had THC in them? Did you know that? Marijuana is dangerous and just because nothing has happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't and it won't. You are playing with fire my friend.

and Riot, if you ever blazed you'd have so much fun.

I do not need drugs to have a good time. I'm enjoying life a lot and I'm drug free. I guess I just don't want to fuck up my life by doing stupid things like drugs. I feel my life is too important to try such a huge risk. I wish you felt the same way, Indy.

[Donatello]

Smoking weed is safer than going to war.

Sorry, couldn't resist. Ignore that.

Seriously though, I smoke sometimes. BUT I don't do it if I'm going to be driving, or have any responsibility whatsoever. I don't do it publically, and I don't pretend like it's 'good for you'.

[Riot]

Smoking weed is safer than going to war.

Sorry, couldn't resist. Ignore that.

Seriously though, I smoke sometimes. BUT I don't do it if I'm going to be driving, or have any responsibility whatsoever. I don't do it publically, and I don't pretend like it's 'good for you'.

Nice little jab there, Donny. I will obviously pass on commenting on the first part of your post.

Your second part is interesting. I don't agree with your choice to smoke but I think it's great that you don't drive or put anyone else in danger during your high. If you want to smoke then stay inside your home until the effects are gone. My main concern is when people, like our good friend Indy, smoke and then go out into public and try to perform tasks as difficult as driving a motorized vehicle. It is dangerous, stupid and hopefully one of these days you will be caught.

I love you Indy but right now I'm not very happy with you.

[Indy]

So instead of getting alzheimers you'll end up getting lung cancer, tumors and increase chance in heart attack. Sounds like a great trade.

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There's a bunch of literature for you to read that will dispute those "facts".

That means you guys are due for one. The biggest problem with people and smoking (or people and anything) is they don't think it can happen to them. It sounds like you have smoked a lot in your life...I'm willing to bet it will come back and haunt you down the road. You are hurting your body and increasing your chances of lung problems, heart problems and brain problems in the future considerably. Just because nothing has happened now doesn't mean the long term effects won't start showing up.

As much as you would like to have me believe otherwise, If anything was going to happen, especially in the legal aspect, it would have happened in high school. Me and all my friends are now on our paths towards our careers, or otherwise. When we smoke we do it in an enviornment where we won't get caught by police or anything to that matter. I'm certainly not going to see any long term health problems any time soon, if that type of thing ever shows up it will by in 40-50 years.

First thing first, I am very upset to hear this Indy. I thought you would be a bit more responsible than that. You have been on the road "a good 4,000 times at least" while being stoned? Do you know how dangerous that is to not only yourself but to me and everyone else on the road? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Secondly, just because you have been pulled over while sober and haven't while stoned doesn't mean you are a better driver. It just simply means you were in the right place at the right time. Do you think everytime someone does something bad they get caught? Plus, getting pulled over is not the benchmark of bad driving. You are putting everyone at risk while driving impaired. Did you know 4 to 16 percent of fatally injured drivers had THC in their blood at the time of their crash? Did you know 6 to 12 percent of nonfatally injured drivers had THC in their blood at the time of their crash? And in Baltimore, a study went around and tested that over 32% of all the trauma victims in the hospital at that time had THC in them? Did you know that? Marijuana is dangerous and just because nothing has happened to you doesn't mean it doesn't and it won't. You are playing with fire my friend.

Maybe I wasn't really clear. The reason I've never been pulled over while stoned is because I'm far more carefull while stoned and I drive the speed limit. When I'm sober driving to and from Indiana I drive closer to 100 then to the speed limit of 75 on the Interstate. I'm a reckless driver while sober because I want to get my ass there. If I'm smoking a blunt with some friends and getting pumped for the game, I'm having fun I don't feel the need to speed. Plus I can tell you for DAMN SURE that I am a better driver regardless. I'm just able to put it in autopilot and drive effectively.

and Riot, if you ever blazed you'd have so much fun. :lol.

I do not need drugs to have a good time. I'm enjoying life a lot and I'm drug free. I guess I just don't want to fuck up my life by doing stupid things like drugs. I feel my life is too important to try such a huge risk. I wish you felt the same way, Indy.

I guess I wasn't really clear about this either, I was only kidding. I completely respect the decision to live that way, and I respect you 100%. That life just isn't me, I can have fun sober as well, but I like smoking and getting fucked up with my friends. I live by the idea that I'll do exactly what I want to do, exactly when I want to do it. If that kills me when I'm 60 instead of living to be 85 then so be it, but I don't really care. I'd rather have no regrets and have experienced more things then live an extra 25 years and forget everything because of alzheimers anyways.

[Christopherson]

I think you are ignoring part of Riot's argument. Personally, if you would rather die at 60 than at 85, thats fine with me. But if your decisions lead to the early termination of another's life, then I have a serious problem with that. Bottom line is, weed impairs judgment. Impaired judgement can lead to the early termination of another's life, or some other negative impact.

[bigh0rt]

I think you are ignoring part of Riot's argument. Personally, if you would rather die at 60 than at 85, thats fine with me. But if your decisions lead to the early termination of another's life, then I have a serious problem with that. Bottom line is, weed impairs judgment. Impaired judgement can lead to the early termination of another's life, or some other negative impact.

Now, this has no bearing on my feelings on drugs, etc. as I'll reserve those for my own judgement and mine alone, but based on what you're saying...

Alcohol impairs judgement, but you are allowed to drive having consumed a certain amount. Should marijuana be the same?

It can also be argued that things like caffeine impair judgement as well, depending on dosage taken. Do you feel the same about substances such as these?

Just curious here.

[Indy]

I think you are ignoring part of Riot's argument. Personally, if you would rather die at 60 than at 85, thats fine with me. But if your decisions lead to the early termination of another's life, then I have a serious problem with that. Bottom line is, weed impairs judgment. Impaired judgement can lead to the early termination of another's life, or some other negative impact.

Huh? I think I adressed that part more then anything else. Go back and read what I wrote then get back to me.

[Christopherson]

bigh0rt,
I don't consume alcohol. I don't see the point in it. I think in an ideal world we make alcohol and tobacco illegal. No good can possibly come from them. I understand that is a radical viewpoint. But arguing that their should be a legal limit for weed just because there is a legal limit for alcohol doesn't make sense to me. Why should we continue to lower the morals of our society? Why can't we look at it the other way and say since you aren't allowed to drive with any amount of THC, then we shouldn't be allowed to drive with any amount of alcohol. That makes more sense to me.

Indy,
I saw your comments about driving at a slower speed before I made my last post. To me the fact that you are commending yourself for not driving 100 mph is very sad. Not breaking the law isn't something I would be proud of. It should be expected. My argument is weed slows reaction time and impairs judgement. So if you are on your way to your Pacers game and a deer or a little kid jumps out in the road, the THC in your system is going to make you more likely to have a negative impact on another's life. How can you look at that and be proud of it?

[Riot]

Now, this has no bearing on my feelings on drugs, etc. as I'll reserve those for my own judgement and mine alone, but based on what you're saying...

Alcohol impairs judgement, but you are allowed to drive having consumed a certain amount. Should marijuana be the same?

It can also be argued that things like caffeine impair judgement as well, depending on dosage taken. Do you feel the same about substances such as these?

Just curious here.

I'm sure you've heard the saying "two wrongs don't make a right". Drinking and driving is very bad. Smoking and driving is very bad. Just because alcohol is legal and marijuana isn't doesn't mean anything. They both are bad and you should avoid using either of them when you are going to operate a motorized vehicle. I don't care if you smoke in the basement of your house...it's your life and it's not my concern. I get just as upset at drunk drivers and public drunks as I do with public stoners. Do that shit in the private of your own residence. I don't want to see it and I don't want you to harm me, my family or my friends because of your choice.

I'm under the impression that Indy loves to smoke the yerba in public and endanger innocent lives. Your reflexes are effected Indy when you are high. You are 4 times as likely to get a heart attack while high...imagine if you get a heart attack while driving? It just pisses me off.

[Kbryant8]

i have smoked weed few times,but i`ll have to say that i don`t like it at all,at start it`s a nice thing but those periods what will come after that arent nice at all(okay maybe that part what every little thing makes you laugh your ass off)
But after that,you feel like a fkn robocop and your legs are so heavy that you cant move them and your heart beats like it`s going to blow off.
And ofcourse it`s a waste of money

[BIG GREEN]

Yes, because you know me so well...but hey..thats your opinion. You act holier than thou' on these forums because you're over compensating for lack of a definitive purpose in your life...and thats my opinion. I'd like to meet the person in this universe who gave you the authority to pass your judgement as fact on any and every subject and have them shot.

Hey man...live your life the way you want to live it just like I'm going to live my life the way I want to live it. It's that simple.

I think you are an idiot. I feel that way mostly because of your choice to smoke. I hope someday your choice will bite you in the ass.

Wow, that's a well thought out and put together comeback; especially since this is usually in line with your debates on these forums and obviously this one as well. Let me share an equally well thought out come back that is more of a stern advice/request....







shut the fuck up...that's the end of my debate with you...and it's the first/last time i'll say it. Thank you, i will live my life the way i want..i wasn't going to..but since you said it...i will almighty Riot. Now you can keep your shit/life lectures to yourself or tout it to someone else who gives a flying fuck.

[PiksS]

1. i have smoked weed only once but that is due to access not due to not wanting to. I believe it is less dangerous than tobacco and alcohol and still do not understand why it is illegal

its illegal, cuz from weed u can get stupid one day...!

I have dne it!...for the 1st time, cuz i was pissed at the world!...the other times!...i was drunk already!

[Riot]

Big Green,

If you didn't want others to judge you or give your opinion on your smoking habits then why the hell did you post it in the first place? Do you think this is a forum where we all skip over each others opinions? You posted it. You opened yourself up for critism so try to handle it like a man next time, mkay?

Why don't you go get high...you're probably a lot cooler person when you are stoned.

[BIG GREEN]

I never asked for an opinion or judgement...i simply told about myself in a topic that was about a certain subject as it pertains to my life. The next time i want judgement or opinions from you...i'll ask for it. I won't be tolerating your bullshit on these forums Bill O' Reilly. I suggest you keep it away from me cause you don't know shit about me.

[Riot]

I never asked for an opinion or judgement...i simply told about myself in a topic that was about a certain subject as it pertains to my life. The next time i want judgement or opinions from you...i'll ask for it. I won't be tolerating your bullshit on these forums Bill O' Reilly. I suggest you keep it away from me cause you don't know shit about me.

You stated you liked the smoke in a thread. That opens you up for critism from those who think smoking is immature, irresponsible and stupid. I am one of many who think that. I'm sorry your little hobby isn't socially accepted. I'm sorry you can't handle the facts that your innocent drug does a lot more harm than good.

You won't be tolerating my "bullshit" on these forums? What are you going to do? What if I said the exact same thing but in a coherent sentence? It wouldn't do much, would it?