Raps13 wrote:Gundy wrote:Why do some of you guys want to live in Canada? (no offence to Canadians)
Because it's better than 99% of the countries out there
Silas wrote:America has much better job opportunities and climates and stuff like Riot said, but then again, Canada has free healthcare, and if you travel the world you dont have to worry about people hating you.
Riot wrote:Silas wrote:America has much better job opportunities and climates and stuff like Riot said, but then again, Canada has free healthcare, and if you travel the world you dont have to worry about people hating you.
Yes, Canada does have "free healthcare". It sounds great, doesn't it? However, there are a few things that are bad with this "free healthcare".
1). There are long waiting lists for operations. Many Canadians actually go into America to get operations because they have to wait so long to get theirs in Canada. If you are sick you must wait your turn!
2). A lot of the doctors are moving to America because they get paid better and get less hours! All the "good" doctors realize this and move into America for a better life. I'm not saying Canada isn't a good life but doctors make more with less patients in America and they all realize it!
3). You cannot have private healthcare! Some place in Canada actually banned private healthcare. So even if you pay money you cannot get private healthcare (meaning no lines!).
4). Plus...is this healthcare system really "free"? Technically it isn't. It has to get funded somehow and it is funded through taxes. They tax you on everyday items for the free healthcare. The money for it is your own so it technically is not free.
The bottom line is this: if you want good healthcare you have to pay for it! The only problem is you can't do that in Canada because they won't let you.
come to California. the good weather solves everything
Why do some of you guys want to live in Canada? (no offence to Canadians)
Because it's better than 99% of the countries out there
Is Canada a lot different than the United States?
I always thought they were similar countries but now I see a lot of people from the United States wanting to move to Canada, so I guess something in Canada is better than in the US.
I want to move to North America (not sure when though) but I still haven't find any city/town that fits me since most of the cities I would like to move to, are cold as hell, and I'm not really used to cold weather.
I admit it too. I went touring in Toronto and the weather is nice, place is clean, everything is pretty cheap, and the people are nice. Where I live, if you wave to someone on the street or something, they'll give u the finger or glare at you. We were taking a boat and all the people we passed actually waves at us.
Canada isn't really that clean.
America offers a much bigger variety of scenary and climates.
You'll find some place that is suited for you in America...I'm not sure if the same thing can be said for Canada.
Yes, Canada does have "free healthcare". It sounds great, doesn't it? However, there are a few things that are bad with this "free healthcare".I don't get where people get this idea that its completely free. Yes, you're protected better, but it still comes at a cost. Its just done in a way that helps everyone, not just the people who can easily afford it.1). There are long waiting lists for operations. Many Canadians actually go into America to get operations because they have to wait so long to get theirs in Canada. If you are sick you must wait your turn!
It depends on the operation. For emergency operations, ie. life threatening, its all pretty much available as needed. For things that are about quality of life, like operations concerning ligament/bone replacement as a result of something like arthritis, the waits are longer, usually a month or two. The biggest demand is for something like an MRI, which can be a wait of three or four months.2). A lot of the doctors are moving to America because they get paid better and get less hours!
That's because they can set up private practices and are allowed to help the people they choose. Isn't capitalism awesome.All the "good" doctors realize this and move into America for a better life. I'm not saying Canada isn't a good life but doctors make more with less patients in America and they all realize it!
Well I've had three different family doctors through my life, and all of them were "good" doctors. No complaints here.3). You cannot have private healthcare! Some place in Canada actually banned private healthcare. So even if you pay money you cannot get private healthcare (meaning no lines!).
You say that like its a good thing. Private health care is designed to only benefit the small percentage of people who can afford it. By banning it, you get the same doctors to help everyone, regardless of their wealth. And long lines? For any every day illness or concern, you can get an appointment with your family doctor within a day or two. And if you're willing to see a different doctor at the same office, you can get an appointment within a day.4). Plus...is this healthcare system really "free"? Technically it isn't. It has to get funded somehow and it is funded through taxes. They tax you on everyday items for the free healthcare. The money for it is your own so it technically is not free.
Stop debating ignorance pal. Anyone who thinks its completely free is a moron. Canadians pay more taxes than Americans, and that in turn helps pay for lots of things, including health care.The bottom line is this: if you want good healthcare you have to pay for it! The only problem is you can't do that in Canada because they won't let you.
iKe7in wrote:come to California. the good weather solves everything
I'll probably end up working there in 5-10 years, but I'd definitely miss winter, hockey coverage, and the lack of earthquakes.
iKe7in wrote:Could've fooled me. The last two times I've been to the states (once to new york, once to florida) the roadsides always seem to be piled with garbage. Not huge piles of stuff, but still easily noticeable. I think the problem was when I was down in Florida it was just after a hurricane, so there was a lot of stuff thrown around by that. But in Syracuse where I was, the difference in cleanliness was very noticeable.
Variety of climates? Except for the deserts in parts of Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, what do you have that Canada doesn't?
There's a match for almost any living condition between the two. New York or any metropolitan area is very similar to Toronto or Montreal, areas like Minnesota, Wisconson or Michigan are very similar to Winnipeg or Southern Ontario (only with a lot less guns), Alberta and parts of Saskatchewan are very similar to Montana, Idaho, and the Dakotas, and there are very similar areas in California and BC.
It depends on the operation. For emergency operations, ie. life threatening, its all pretty much available as needed. For things that are about quality of life, like operations concerning ligament/bone replacement as a result of something like arthritis, the waits are longer, usually a month or two. The biggest demand is for something like an MRI, which can be a wait of three or four months.
That's because they can set up private practices and are allowed to help the people they choose. Isn't capitalism awesome.
Well I've had three different family doctors through my life, and all of them were "good" doctors. No complaints here.
You say that like its a good thing. Private health care is designed to only benefit the small percentage of people who can afford it. By banning it, you get the same doctors to help everyone, regardless of their wealth. And long lines? For any every day illness or concern, you can get an appointment with your family doctor within a day or two. And if you're willing to see a different doctor at the same office, you can get an appointment within a day.
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