If you want I can find you 500 pages of atrocities commited by Israel, research some more before you post
Nobody is saying that Isreal is a perfect nation, no country is. However, I would like to see this 500 page article you speak of. I'm calling your bluff becuase I know you post without direction.
it has been more than a month and israel, which has the strongest military in the world, has still been unable to defeeat a bunch of "untrained, weak army"
Isreal doesn't have the strongest army in the world, some of the shit you say is so rediculous its amazing.
thats completely different, the civil war is between the sunnis that are mostly in the north and the shias that are mostly in the south
You are confused with iraq...
just watch, once they unite and realize that they have a common foe, israels gonna get hell, and if another country in the mideast is to stand up against israel, they cant do anything, theyre not gonna be able to fight two wars at once, just look at the US
The us isnt fighting two wars alone. It's a coalition. And the us hasn't exhausted its military.
dudem how long does it take you to understand that i dont hate jews, im only angry at the israeli government
some of my best friends are jews, and my religion says to tolerate other religions
Cut the bullshit.
oh and benji, you double posted...
You of all people shouldn't be telling people on here how to post.
I've actually disagreed with two of his statements, one in this thread and one in another. I don't agree with a lot of what he says, or his argument technique. Hell, even if I did agree with him, how would that make me anti-Jewish? Jesus Christ dude, you find new ways to label me a racist in every post. And to that, I say bravo!
Jewsih is a religon, not a race therefore is not racism. How do you disagree with him? You don't. Whenever riot, ben or myself posts, you pick it apart (or the softer parts) to show your disagreement. Yet with his you don't. So quit being a fake and claiming to "disagree" with what he says.
Are you saying your posts aren't solid or logical? I disagree. I think your posts are well put together for the most part. I just disagree with what you're saying
What i was saying is i had one post in this thread which was directed at ammoattack that was sarcastic response.
The entire South is all but controlled by Hezbollah. I have a reason for the inverted commas as well. To me, it's apparent that the US doesn't care about democracy as much as it cares for having political influence in the middle east.
That i disagree with (but it's an interesting point of view). I think with Iraq, and afganistan, something had to be done. When hundreds of thousands of people get gassed and tortured in iraq by a dictator, someone has to step in and do somthing. When women are circumsised, treated like animals and any opposition is murdered, someone has to step in. If it took 9/11 to bring that to happen, then so be it. But the world is a better place sadaam not in power and with a much more democratic society in afganistan. You can question all the motives all you want, but nothing will change my mind about the end result.
Hezbollah holds seats in the Lebanese government, and has the majority of the support from the Lebanese people. If Nasrallah were to run in a democratic election, don't you think he would win? If that were to happen, there's no doubt in my mind that Israel, with the help of the US, would launch an attack on Lebanon. Hell, even the Iranian government under Khomeini was voted on democratically (this was Khomeini's decision, nearly all of Iran was in support of him). There was even a constitution that was voted on democratically. Yet, the US government would still rather have the Shah in power, who opressed his people. Why? Because Iran was strategic stronghold in the Middle East, a buffer zone against possible Soviet Invasion into the region. In other words---self-interest.
The russians know better then to fuck with america, look at what happened to the ussr. As for your point about being voted in democratically, well so was hitler.
Do you realize that the war has ended, yet the Israeli prisons are still in Hezbollah's custody? And now Israel is lobbying for negotiations with Hezbollah for a prisoner exchange! How rediculous is this? Turn the clock back a little over a month. The same result could have been reached, while 1500 Israeli and Lebanese lives could have been saved.
I know, but it doesnt make it anymore right. I'd like to see what the family of the murdered little girl and man by the terrorist think if he is released. Yay for hezbollah. Maybe the us should just nuke the whole area. That may have been harsh, but what kind of civilised nation openly condones and celebrates a pre teen girl having to watch her father murdered before she herself is murdered? And then they abduct isreali solders on their own land and demand the person who murdered them to be relelased. And then the world sides with them? Are people idiots?
Hezbollah would have no problem fighting on the ground. Quite a bit of Israeli soldiers were killed during the battle. Why? Not rockets...not bombs...but ground war. Personally, I find dropping bombs from planes that Hezbollah CAN'T SHOOT DOWN is just as cowardly as using human shield tactics.
You think hiding behind an aeroplane just as bad as hiding behind civillians?
The US provides weapons to Israel to "protect themselves in a hostile region." Funny how Israel is the one involved in most of the hostilities
Alot of blacks were beaten and tortured during the slavery, does that mean becuase they were involved in violence they were also violent? Just becuase you are hated doesnt mean you are the aggressors.
And buddy, 50% of Americans disagree with US foreign policy. You want to tell them that they're hypocrites for living here? Go ahead, I'm sure you'll get a warm response.
Disagreeing with foreign policy is one thing, but to say "the us gives missiles to isreal to kill civillians" is another.
You, my friend, just had the lowest insult of the debate. I can understand why you don't like Israel but calling airplanes cowardly? Oh my god.