Gay Marriage

[GloveGuy]

Here's my opinion: If you're against it, you're homophobic. I've had millions of reasons thrown at me, and I'm still not convinced that your opinion isn't inspired by your position to gay's in general.

Now what do you guys think? I want to know. Beware, I will come at you if you're against, and I might make you look silly.

And let's try to keep the religious bullshit to a minimum. I don't think you realize how many holes your opinion has if you use religion and/or morals as an excuse.

[Jing]

i truely dont really care. its people's choice. My state allows it, in fact like the town next to mine is like half gay/lesbian..

[.Dee.]

Although it is rather weird but i guess if there not bothering anyone
mainly jsut worring about me then theres no problemo.

[Silas]

I hardly see how two gay people getting marriage can ruin anything, it just makes them happier and nicer.

[Riot]

This is a cliff notes verison of what I found on the internet. Here are some good reasons as to why gay marriage is bad.

1-Pretty much every major religion considers homosexuality a sin. "It is offensive and a swipe to the religious freedom of the majority to have to recognize a relationship they consider sinful. The legal system in the United States evolved out of the laws contained in the Bible."

2-It would ruin the definition of marriage. 50% of all mariages end in divorce and if you add gay marriage that rate would go even higher. Many "couples" would jokingly get married just so they can save money on taxes.

3-It weakens our family values that we have embraced for so long. You would have kids who no longer grow up in a one father, one mother household. There are certain things that a mother can do that a father can't and vice versa. Many people consider that a lot of morals would be thrown out the window.

Here is my main concern with gay marriage: where does it end? Many people have brought this up and it is a valid point. Gay rights activists say that gay marriage should be legalized because it doesn't hurt anyone. But where does it end? What would stop the average joe from wanting to marry his dog or his sister? It could be a snowball effect. Even though the likelyhood of that happening is small it brings a valid question to the plate. You need to make a distinct definition of what marriage is and stick to it. Marriage is laregly a christian tradition that has widely grown mainstream. How can you allow gay marriage when the religion it is based on finds homosexuality a sin? There are a lot of questions about this and I for don't care but I'm not certainly not for gay marriage. It's just something that doesn't appeal to me and I don't really want it near me. Am I a homophobe? Not really, I don't mind gay people I just don't like the idea of marriage between them. Somethings are better left untouched, in my opinion.

[Matt]

MARRIAGE - A contract made in due form of law, by which a free man and a free woman reciprocally engage to live with each other during their joint lives, in the union which ought io exist between husband and wife. By the terms freeman and freewoman in this definition are meant, not only that they are free and not slaves, but also that they are clear of all bars to a lawful marriage.

key words....man & WOMAN.

[Fitzy]

i think gay marriage is disgusting but at the end of the day its their choice and it makes them happy so we should let them

[Indy]

1-Pretty much every major religion considers homosexuality a sin. "It is offensive and a swipe to the religious freedom of the majority to have to recognize a relationship they consider sinful. The legal system in the United States evolved out of the laws contained in the Bible."

The Bible also says not to fix your eyes if you have a vision problem. It also says not to shave off your sideburns, not to masturbate, and that women aren't aloud to speak in church.

2-It would ruin the definition of marriage. 50% of all mariages end in divorce and if you add gay marriage that rate would go even higher. Many "couples" would jokingly get married just so they can save money on taxes.

I don't even know where to begin with this one.

3-It weakens our family values that we have embraced for so long. You would have kids who no longer grow up in a one father, one mother household. There are certain things that a mother can do that a father can't and vice versa. Many people consider that a lot of morals would be thrown out the window.

Yeah, because we don't allow single parent families right?

What would stop the average joe from wanting to marry his dog or his sister?

Show me a dog that can sign a legal marrige document and I'll show you a dog that can marry anyone he/she pleases.

[Silas]

The definition of Marriage doesnt define man and woman, look it up on Dictionary.com

I dont give a flying fuck if the bible says its wrong, theres a seperation of church and state and it needs to stay that way. Gay people are married already so if it ruins marriage perhaps we should officially end all marriages because obviously they're ruining the world.

And i hate how people can associate Gay Marriage with incestual marriage, they're two totally different things and I'd doubt those incestious types would ever be for Gays anyway.

Maybe we need to round up all the homophobes and send them to San Francisco where they can learn to respect everyones values. Anyway who is against Gay marriage needs to be slapped in the face by someone who can really get the point accross, like Hulk Hogan.

I'm sick of Naiive opinions of people who think Gay people are gross and ruin the world and are sinners.

[GloveGuy]

1-Pretty much every major religion considers homosexuality a sin. "It is offensive and a swipe to the religious freedom of the majority to have to recognize a relationship they consider sinful. The legal system in the United States evolved out of the laws contained in the Bible."

Please. I have a freedom of religion, and I have a freedom from religion. Nothing imposed by the Bible or any other religious mandate are associated with the laws of the government. Separation of church and state. If we followed everything the Bible says, our forms of punishment and justice would be barbaric and nasty.

And last time I checked, many bodies of Buddhism celebrate homosexuality.

Oh, and aren't sins choices we make? Aren't they actions we have contol of? People are born gay, get used to it.

2-It would ruin the definition of marriage. 50% of all mariages end in divorce and if you add gay marriage that rate would go even higher. Many "couples" would jokingly get married just so they can save money on taxes.

Oh please, why don't we just ban marriage between all couples? That's a terrible, unjust judgmenet you just made in calling homosexual couples less legitimate than straight couples.

3-It weakens our family values that we have embraced for so long. You would have kids who no longer grow up in a one father, one mother household. There are certain things that a mother can do that a father can't and vice versa. Many people consider that a lot of morals would be thrown out the window.

Many scientific studies show that the end result of a child raised from a gay couple is just as healthy and good as a child raised from a straight one. I mean, we let murderers, child molesters, and other convicted felons have children, why not gays?

Add in the fact, that the ideas of family and marriage are not hand-in-hand. We don't penalize straight couples for not having children, do we?

Here is my main concern with gay marriage: where does it end? Many people have brought this up and it is a valid point. Gay rights activists say that gay marriage should be legalized because it doesn't hurt anyone. But where does it end? What would stop the average joe from wanting to marry his dog or his sister?

Bologna. A marriage is between two consenting adults. By comparing it to the marriage of a man and a dog, you lose your credibility. Look at other countires where gay marriage is legal, you don't see protests for or against anything revolving around incest relationships or bestial couple rights.

[Riot]

Bologna. A marriage is between two consenting adults.

Okay, say when I turn 18 I want to marry my sister who is 20. We are both consenting and we are both adults. So according to your logic we should be okay to marry. I don't care if you don't think it is moral, I believe in it and I have the freedom to do that. It won't hurt anyone and whoever is afraid of people who committ incest should get a swift kick in the testicles. We are people, too! [/roleplay]

See what I mean? There are loopholes in everything. It will never end.

[Dro]

Whatever...give me whatever reason you want, whatever technicality, call me a homophobe...

It all comes down to one thing for me:

Why were two DIFFERENT sexes put on this earth?

Honestly, I don't care if two homos get married. But, I will never EVER associate myself with one.

[Riot]

Whatever...give me whatever reason you want, whatever technicality, call me a homophobe...

It all comes down to one thing for me:

Why were two DIFFERENT sexes put on this earth?

Honestly, I don't care if two homos get married. But, I will never EVER associate myself with one.

...says the terrorist.

[Dro]

Whatever...give me whatever reason you want, whatever technicality, call me a homophobe...

It all comes down to one thing for me:

Why were two DIFFERENT sexes put on this earth?

Honestly, I don't care if two homos get married. But, I will never EVER associate myself with one.

...says the terrorist.

...says the inbred hick

[[Q]]

If it makes them happy, I'm all for it...

Problem for most people is that their definition of "marriage" is different from the states' definition.

[Silas]

How could you possibly associate incest with gay marriage? I dont see how its a loop hole. Children born from incest are very likely to have mental retardation complications and a traumatic upbringing.

Those are problems that are extremely unlikely to occur in a childs upbringing in a gay marriage relationship.

Besides, incest marriage is illegal, gay marriage can be legal, two different laws.

[debiler]

I think that marriage should be allowed for all loving couples, no matter their sexual orientation. People who get married or (especially) have kids just for tax advantages and don't really love each other are far worse than two men or women who actually decided to have a family for romantic reasons. Don't you think that there would be much less evil in the world if more people grew up in a caring family? I do realise that gay couples would be just as likely to abandon their duties as fathers/mothers, but that is not my point. What I'm trying to say is that the whole basic principles of marriage are forgotten because people are concentrating on bashing gays -who might want to get married for decent reasons just like every straight couple might- just for the sake of it, hiding behind their bibles, screaming hell and damnation. And when they get home, they MIGHT beat their wife and kids.

[J@3]

Whatever...give me whatever reason you want, whatever technicality, call me a homophobe...

It all comes down to one thing for me:

Why were two DIFFERENT sexes put on this earth?

Honestly, I don't care if two homos get married. But, I will never EVER associate myself with one.

...says the terrorist.

...says the inbred hick

I laugh at the irony. Haha.

[Matt]

Many scientific studies show that the end result of a child raised from a gay couple is just as healthy and good as a child raised from a straight one

you can find just as many if not more studies pointing to the opposite.

theres a seperation of church and state and it needs to stay that way

the whole "God Bless America" thing doesn't imply seperation

[J@3]

you can find just as many if not more studies pointing to the opposite.

Find them then. So many people post this kind of thing, are we just supposed to take your word for it?

[Axel]

wow... Riot, your "reasons" against gay marriage are completely ludicrous.

Most of them don't take gay relationships seriously at all... what kind of shit is "they might get married just for tax benefits"?? My god, I know plenty of straight couples that have got married for that exact reason. I dont know, just sounds like you don't think there is true love there, which really is kind of sad.

It would ruin the definition of marriage. 50% of all mariages end in divorce and if you add gay marriage that rate would go even higher.

Where's your fucking proof?

I personally think it would lower the divorce rate (not that i think it matters much , but apparently it does to you). Because they cannot have children, that is one huge factor gay couples wont have to deal with (unless they adopt). A lot of marriages end in divorce because of children.

It weakens our family values that we have embraced for so long. You would have kids who no longer grow up in a one father, one mother household. There are certain things that a mother can do that a father can't and vice versa. Many people consider that a lot of morals would be thrown out the window.

These aren't morals. They're standards. Big difference.

What would stop the average joe from wanting to marry his dog or his sister?

First off...

Beastiality is more along the lines of rape. An animal is not a consenting partner, and therefore could not marry a person.

Incestual relationships? Again, not something I would do, but if they are two consenting partners, I don't think there is anything anyone should be able to say to deny them marriage.

[debiler]

Incestual relationships? Again, not something I would do, but if they are two consenting partners, I don't think there is anything anyone should be able to say to deny them marriage.

Well, that is a difficult issue. You always have to consider the fact that many people are stupid and uneducated. Some couples might wanna have kids because they wouldn't know the possible consequences. This would lead to many genetic disfunctions in such families. But you're right, imo, there's nothing totally wrong about a brothers and sisters marrying, if they're really in love.

[Unrestrict3D]

It's not the gays that I worry about. I'm more worried about the ones who don't know what they are and could jump out of the closet at any given moment, with you right there. If I know someone's not right, gay, I know to stay away from them, not look at them, etc. I'm not going to flame someone for being gay but please, pretty please, don't try touching my features. Those are reserved for the ladies.

Gay marriage? Don't invite me.

[Matt]

Find them then. So many people post this kind of thing, are we just supposed to take your word for it?

i wasn't the one that brought up the scientific studies.....just merely pointing out that they aren't conclusive.

[Jugs]

I hate gay marriage, and anything homosexual.


But, I don't discriminate gays, because that's abuse.