Rascism

[-BHZMAFIA-]

Oddly enough..i havent suffered too much obvious racism in my lifetime. New York is pretty hush hush on the subject...and i think me being a little intimidating has something to do with it.

It's the same for me. Surprisingly being from the south, it hasn't been alot of racial things going on at least at school and things like that. The only people at my school that I consider races is some of my teachers The students are mainly cool with each other. Now since I work at Krogers, I hear alot of racism all the time and I've only been there for a few weeks!

Like, I was checking this black lady out and after everything was finished, she wanted me to give her the food stamp total of her food. After that, she scanned her card and it wouldn't work, so I tried typing in the number myself several times and it still didn't work. So, I called customer care over to help with the lady and it still wouldn't work so she had to pay in cash. It took about 10 mins to get this resolve and it was like an old white man behind her, probably 70 something years old. So after she left, I asked the man how he was doing like I do everybody and he was like "I guess I'm doing pretty good SHIT!" And I was about to start laughing hard as hell, but he was dead serious and he was mad. So when I was scanning his items, he was asking me what was wrong with the black lady payment and I was like it wouldn't scan and explaining it to him. And then he said "Dumb nigger didn't have no money anyway" and I mean I didn't know what to do. I wanted to just hit him in the face, but he was an old man, but still bad at heart. And my job was on the line too so I just ignored it and checked him out. I should've threw his shit on the ground though The fact that he said it to a black person is what really makes it bad. I should've like pulled out like a big fat ass roll of money and said "Niggers do have money bitch" and gave him his receipt

[Jugs]

I was born in Australia, my parents were born in Croatia. My dad only spent 3 years in Croatia, my mother 24 years. I've spent 3 months in Croatia. I love Croatia, I love my heritage. I call myself a Croatian because I'm a sucker to the Australian 'bogan' stereotype. I hate bogans because they hate me. I'm perceived as one of those wogs who have 20 cousins who can bash them and shit, I only have 4 cousins, 2 aunties and uncles, lol. The big family stereotype annoys me.

[iKe7in]

It sounds impossible, but I really have never seen any hateful or mean comments regarding anyones race. I did see bit a lot of exclusion at my high school, mainly from very small groups of either black people (usually guys) or middle-eastern guys. But for the most part groups of friends were usually very diverse. Most of my closer friends were white, but in pretty much every class I had at least two or three friends that weren't.

The only time I ever experienced it first hand, not in a hateful way but in an exclusion way, was back in grade 10 my friedn and I had to sign up for a team sport for the second half of the year, and we went to try out for cricket, because we had played it in gym class a few times and thought it was pretty cool, but when we got there the team was essentially picked, but we figured we try out anyway. It was 14 middle-eastern guys, the two coaches/teachers were also middle-eastern, and the two of us. They basically didn't even acknowledge us throughout the tryout, and we actually did pretty good, and actually better than a few of them. And inevitably, we were the two who got cut, and when we left we got a few laughs and what I assumed were jokes at our expense, I don't know because they weren't speaking english. At the time I thought it was a little weird, but I didn't really understand why they were treating us like that. Over the years it seemed like just that group tried to separate itself even more, to the point wher ein yearbook grad quotes, you would see some fairly questionable content, like one I remember one guy had in his quote/shout-out something like "..goes out to all the brown ppl, we will bring justice !!!" Now almost five years later, I find out that one of the guys from that cricket team was part of the group who got caught in that terrorist plot in Toronto, along with 2 other guys from my school.

Now that I'm out of the immaturity of high school, I don't see anything anymore, but sometimes there are still claims of it. For the animation program I finally got into this year, htere are over 5000 applicants for 120 spots. There is an extensive portfolio process, basically to see that you know how to draw the right way to be succesful in the field. As anime doesn't qualify as this, it is specifically listed on the things not to include in the portfolio, as well as stuff like horrific scenes/images, gothic or grotesque creatures, etc. Anyways, the vast amount of asian people who apply, go ahead and still draw everything in an anime style, and most of them not even very well. Of course, they don't get in. Every year the same thing, none of them ever learn. There is then always an appeal proces, allwoed for cases where there have been mistakes in the process, like adding up marks wrong or...I don't even know what else, I've never done it. Yet every year, a group of the anime lovers make an appeal on the decision to deny them, as they believe they have been unfairly graded because of their race. Telling them why anime is bad and why its not acceptable to this program only makes them angrier, and makes them play the race card even more. I had never sen it prior to college, but now it seems like asians feel the most prejudiced, and it always over the stupidest shit taht has nothing to do with their race.

[[Q]]

Well, my grandma's racist against black people... her niece married a black dude and his bro was at my grandma's house, just checking the place out... when he left the room, she said to me in Chinese "there's a black guy in the house." in a really bad tone of voice... I just shook my head in disgust. Growing up in white suburbia and being Asian, I have always been tolerant if not empathetic to other races... My white roommate has accuse me of "trying to be black", but that's not even the case because I happen to appreciate black culture and like R&B music.

I am proud of being Asian, but sometimes it just sucks that there will always be some people that just don't like you for being you. especially girls man, they don't like asian guys and now even asian girls aren't going for asian guys... but the problem at my school is that there's about 50-60% asians out of a total of about 23,000 students (and a big number of Asian teachers) and I dunno I think people get annoyed with asian people cuz they're everywhere. It pisses me off that there's a good number of FOB (fresh off the boat) asians at my school that act like they've never been to America and aren't well-adjusted and people see them and think that all asians are like that.

when it comes to racism in America, (and for the world for that matter) I don't think racism will ever go away because you always got the fundamental Christians & religious people & all the other crazy people out there (especially in the southern U.S.) that come from a racist family, the chain of racists will never end.
People are just afraid of things that are different from them, so naturally racism will always exist.

[Nick]

Racism is pretty much 98% non-existant where i live. I didn't even know there were problems with it.

It seems like some people in society these days almost want to be black, what with the hip hop culture and all. Particularly the young. So i guess most racism is jealous-based?

I just made a typo of jealous, and wrote jaelous. Haha, what a cool word to use on people at nlsc. People who wanna be like Jae and jaelous. Hehehe.

[-Young Buck-]

and people throw the word nigger around like they're rappers or something but they're white kids.

well maybe if black people didnt throw the word around at themselves, white wannabe "gangstas" wouldnt use it. They are just coping what the see, because they arent original.

i have a question though, why is it all black people talk so fucking loud? Im not against black people, but always in the mall, street, or anywhere they are always talking at the top of their lungs.

[Its_asdf]

I am proud of being Asian, but sometimes it just sucks that there will always be some people that just don't like you for being you. especially girls man, they don't like asian guys and now even asian girls aren't going for asian guys...

That reminded me of this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=spknGfyTDRc

[The Other Kevin]

I was thinking of making a topic similar to this, nice job Peach.


My school is really rasist. You can hear nigger at least 10 times a day, spic a lot, and other shit repeatedly. A lot of m friends say nigger a lot, and their either Hispanic or white.

[Abctest123]

Now almost five years later, I find out that one of the guys from that cricket team was part of the group who got caught in that terrorist plot in Toronto, along with 2 other guys from my school.

Did you happen to go to a school named Stephen Leacock C.I.? I heard from others that some of the minors in the arrests were from Leacock or some school in Scarborough.

[Ruff Ryder]

and people throw the word nigger around like they're rappers or something but they're white kids.

well maybe if black people didnt throw the word around at themselves, white wannabe "gangstas" wouldnt use it. They are just coping what the see, because they arent original.

Yea I'm sure. Just like when I was in the mall and I saw som e black guy yell to another black guy "Hey, put that down you stupid NIGGER!" Black people don't normally use the word to offend other black people, but I kinda agree with you in the use of the word. I don't use it at all when I'm around my friends or family or anything like that. It seems to give the wrong people permission to use it.

i have a question though, why is it all black people talk so fucking loud? Im not against black people, but always in the mall, street, or anywhere they are always talking at the top of their lungs.

I have a question. Why is it that you stereotype black people like that, ironically and especially in a thread that deals with racism?

@ Yohance and Mafia, I think alot of it has to do with the people that surround you. Honestly, I have more white friends than black friends where I live because black people are slightly more common than rare. But I associate with white people alot more just because I don't have much of a choice. I think I've actually only had 1 black school teacher aside from a substitute.

So i guess most racism is jealous-based?

I wouldn't say that. I'd say most is just old fashioned racism, passed down from generation to generation, parents to kids. When you're real young you're really impressionable so if your parents tell you "Stay away from them niggers. They're nuttin but trouble," you don't disagree with them, you listen and take their advice. Then you just get used to thinking of all black people that way and grow old and tell your kids the same thing.

Thankfully though, it's digressing. I'd say that black people racist towards white people would come alot from jealousy though, and you should be able to see why. Not to mention it could come from past experiences as well.

But I do a lot of thinking myself since I'm not a real vocal person, and I've decided that racism is as simple as "I want your people to be like my people, but they're not. So I don't like them." Nothing really more to it than that. A lot of whites don't like blacks just because they're different. As The Almighty was saying/stereotyping, a white guy may not like a black guy just because he talks loud or something to that extent.

[-Young Buck-]

and people throw the word nigger around like they're rappers or something but they're white kids.

well maybe if black people didnt throw the word around at themselves, white wannabe "gangstas" wouldnt use it. They are just coping what the see, because they arent original.

Yea I'm sure. Just like when I was in the mall and I saw som e black guy yell to another black guy "Hey, put that down you stupid NIGGER!" Black people don't normally use the word to offend other black people, but I kinda agree with you in the use of the word. I don't use it at all when I'm around my friends or family or anything like that. It seems to give the wrong people permission to use it.

i have a question though, why is it all black people talk so fucking loud? Im not against black people, but always in the mall, street, or anywhere they are always talking at the top of their lungs.

I have a question. Why is it that you stereotype black people like that, ironically and especially in a thread that deals with racism?

1. I never ment they use it in a negative way, they always call each other "nigga" just as a term like dude, homie, or whatever.

2. Ok, not 100%, i guess all was the wrong word. Considering i live around a black area, it seems to happen more then enough. But you didnt really answer my question.

[hammertime23]

@ Yohance and Mafia, I think alot of it has to do with the people that surround you. Honestly, I have more white friends than black friends where I live because black people are slightly more common than rare. But I associate with white people alot more just because I don't have much of a choice. I think I've actually only had 1 black school teacher aside from a substitute.

Yea it's the same case for me. I live an a predominately white city. There are probably around 12 black students in my school, and our 1 black teacher is retiring. Most of my friends are white. I bet if I lived in the city it would be a lot different but i live near Syracuse and there a small amount of blacks.

[iKe7in]

Now almost five years later, I find out that one of the guys from that cricket team was part of the group who got caught in that terrorist plot in Toronto, along with 2 other guys from my school.

Did you happen to go to a school named Stephen Leacock C.I.? I heard from others that some of the minors in the arrests were from Leacock or some school in Scarborough.

Nah it was Meadowvale Secondary aka Ghetto-jail. It used to be appartently a very tough school and the cops basically jus hung out out front and waited every day for another fight or brawl to start, but not anymore. Its also the same school that that kid Rene Charlebois kid, the one who was kidanpped downtown by that guy who took a few others, Douglas Moore.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... hub=Canada

[[Q]]

I am proud of being Asian, but sometimes it just sucks that there will always be some people that just don't like you for being you. especially girls man, they don't like asian guys and now even asian girls aren't going for asian guys...

That reminded me of this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=spknGfyTDRc

lol I've seen that video before...

[BIG GREEN]

and people throw the word nigger around like they're rappers or something but they're white kids.

well maybe if black people didnt throw the word around at themselves, white wannabe "gangstas" wouldnt use it. They are just coping what the see, because they arent original.

Yea I'm sure. Just like when I was in the mall and I saw som e black guy yell to another black guy "Hey, put that down you stupid NIGGER!" Black people don't normally use the word to offend other black people, but I kinda agree with you in the use of the word. I don't use it at all when I'm around my friends or family or anything like that. It seems to give the wrong people permission to use it.

i have a question though, why is it all black people talk so fucking loud? Im not against black people, but always in the mall, street, or anywhere they are always talking at the top of their lungs.

I have a question. Why is it that you stereotype black people like that, ironically and especially in a thread that deals with racism?

2. Ok, not 100%, i guess all was the wrong word. Considering i live around a black area, it seems to happen more then enough. But you didnt really answer my question.

Maybe he didn't answer it because it wasn't a real question. It was obviously a rhetorical question.

[Nick]

So i guess most racism is jealous-based?

I wouldn't say that. I'd say most is just old fashioned racism, passed down from generation to generation, parents to kids. When you're real young you're really impressionable so if your parents tell you "Stay away from them niggers. They're nuttin but trouble," you don't disagree with them, you listen and take their advice. Then you just get used to thinking of all black people that way and grow old and tell your kids the same thing.

Yeah, but what IS the reason for racism, is what i was trying to get at. What state of mind do racist people have. I spose i see the 'they're different, therefore i don't like them' thing, but i very much think jealously would play a large part also. Maybe jealousy is the wrong word actually. But i would imagine it's not entirely different from the situation presented by a "school bully".

I am proud of being Asian, but sometimes it just sucks that there will always be some people that just don't like you for being you. especially girls man, they don't like asian guys and now even asian girls aren't going for asian guys...

That reminded me of this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=spknGfyTDRc

Haha, that was cool.

[Ruff Ryder]

Yeah, but what IS the reason for racism, is what i was trying to get at. What state of mind do racist people have. I spose i see the 'they're different, therefore i don't like them' thing, but i very much think jealously would play a large part also. Maybe jealousy is the wrong word actually. But i would imagine it's not entirely different from the situation presented by a "school bully".

Well I'm not a racist so I couldn't tell you the state of mind that they have. But I don't see how jealousy could be it, cuz when you say that I think back to even when there was slavery and I don't think that the white slave owners were jealous of the African Americans then.

But I'm not sure what kind of racism you're referring to because where I live its mostly black-white or minority-white. I just find it hard to believe white people are jealous of black people. I'd think moreso afraid than jealous if anything.

[Stevesanity]

I'd recommend the movie American History X for anyone that hasn't seen it. It gives you an idea of why racism happens and shows how young white kids get 'recruited' so to speak. Most of them have a bad experience with a black kid and without taking it as a personal thing take it as a race thing and course these white kids that do take it as a race thing already have a sense of racism involved in the family.

Anyway the movie is really worth a watch, Edward Norton is awesome in it and it really gave me a better insight into white skinhead culture and how racism builds up but at the same time people can change.

Girls I think also experience racism but not as much as guys do, while my sister claims to not have anyone pass by calling her nigger or been the center of racial prejudice she says that their are white girls that would only hang with white girls and date white guys (only talk to them aswell) and the same goes with any race. I know for a fact that as earlier said asian guys find it hard to score with girls that aren't their same race and same goes to subcontinental asians and latinos. While their is Italians marrying Russians and so on I find it strange that sometimes white girls who listen to Rap/R&B music are sorta afraid to go out with anyone that's not white.

But on my personal basis I didn't have that big a problem with the girls, I'm not saying I was a pimp at school but I spoke to all types of girls and never had a major margin of race when it came to girls. I think they understand each other more, at least a bit more than men are. Uncommon Sense please give us some feedback on that?

Anyway does anyone sometimes get this weird gut like feeling someone's a racist without knowing them?. I know I don't like to judge people from the outside and doing this myself probably shows I do have a sense of racism in me but sometimes you just look at a face and you get this strong feeling that their probably racist. I'm wondering if white kids get this same feeling or if it just a case for black, asian, hispanic etc kids?

[Ruff Ryder]

I've seen American History X as well, and it's a really good movie, but I think it's a more extreme example of a trip into the life of a racist. This guy isn't just simply racist, he starts his own gang of people which grows very quickly, he murders two black guys, one by putting like 4 shots in him, the other by putting another 4 shots or so in and then the "curb stomp"

Anyway does anyone sometimes get this weird gut like feeling someone's a racist without knowing them?. I know I don't like to judge people from the outside and doing this myself probably shows I do have a sense of racism in me but sometimes you just look at a face and you get this strong feeling that their probably racist. I'm wondering if white kids get this same feeling or if it just a case for black, asian, hispanic etc kids?

Heck yea man. I'd say that's very common. Sometimes you can tell by just looking at them, or that big Nazi/kkk tatoo on thier arm. Lol, but on the real, yea, like I saw this one kid at my youth group at church and I had this fear that he might be racist, just by the way he looked. But he's cool though, once I go to know him. But it's not something I really like to think, that so-and-so is racist.

[Stevesanity]

I've seen American History X as well, and it's a really good movie, but I think it's a more extreme example of a trip into the life of a racist. This guy isn't just simply racist, he starts his own gang of people which grows very quickly, he murders two black guys, one by putting like 4 shots in him, the other by putting another 4 shots or so in and then the "curb stomp"

That curb stomp is some violent shit. But yeah it is extreme but it also shows how its built up. He starts off as a kid that is interested in black culture (at the end they show this part) and he's at dinner talking how he liked his teacher (can't remember his name now but course his teacher is black) then his father starts telling him shit about this and that and I think you know what I'm talking about. Plus it shows that even the most racist of people can change after an experience, now I'm not saying it happens often just cause you go to prison and wash clothes with a black guy but people can change if their just thought more and actually have a conversation with a black person or asian or whatever.

I know some people that would not talk with asians and hispanics but later on as they learnt their culture more and talked to them they actually blew away all that racial hatred for them.

Anyway does anyone sometimes get this weird gut like feeling someone's a racist without knowing them?. I know I don't like to judge people from the outside and doing this myself probably shows I do have a sense of racism in me but sometimes you just look at a face and you get this strong feeling that their probably racist. I'm wondering if white kids get this same feeling or if it just a case for black, asian, hispanic etc kids?

Heck yea man. I'd say that's very common. Sometimes you can tell by just looking at them, or that big Nazi/kkk tatoo on thier arm. Lol, but on the real, yea, like I saw this one kid at my youth group at church and I had this fear that he might be racist, just by the way he looked. But he's cool though, once I go to know him. But it's not something I really like to think, that so-and-so is racist.

Well the tatz give it away but sometimes it's just the face really. Some people have these really redneck looking faces that just give you the creeps and you start feeling uncomfortable. Course I've learnt that it's meaningless cause I've talked with alotta of people that look like rednecks but are hippie like (besides the hair, drugs and group sex).

Anyway I have a couple of questions for everyone.

1. Would you consider dating someone of a different race? (put into thought what your family will say etc)

2. Would you be more likely to date a chick of a different race or your same race despite the chick of different race having equal looks yet better personality?

I know some people like to date/marry people of their same race, sometimes even nationality yet some people only find men/women of different races attractive.

I'm fine with anything, pussy is pussy to me but I'd actually see myself in terms of marriage with a white chick or a subcontinental (aka brown) chick. It's probably because in terms of women the majority of them are white or subcontinental, I have friends from diff backgrounds (my best chick friend is hispanic) but relationships and friendship wise it's dominated by those two races.

[debiler]

1. Why not? I think there's something in every race that makes people look interesting.

2. I think that is a stupid question. Just for me, of course, cause I don't give a shit about races.

As some of you may know, we have the soccer world cup in Germany at the moment. Well, about 250 dickhead neo-nazis decided to use the opportunity for their propaganda and start a demo in the city of Gelsenkirchen, where Poland and Ecuador were playing(and where the U.S. will face the Czech Republic tonight, btw). What happened? The racist bitches were peacefully silenced by about 5,000 people from all over the world who shouted them down, I'm sure they didn't understand their own words anymore. Now, that's the way...

Just an interesting bit, imo.

[[Q]]

man it doen't really matter to me what race a girl is. as long as she has a good personality, Idon't care if she's white, black, hispanic, asian, middle eastern, mixed (but it would be nice if she was ), yellow, red, blue, green or whatever.

funny thing is in college I have learned (as corny as it sounds) that it really doesn't matter how hot you think a girl is at first, because I have fallen for the girls with ok looks (at first) and a great personality and the personality makes her so much hotter than any girl that's only hot.

[Ruff Ryder]

1.) Yea, I actually would prefer to date a hispanic chick, for some reason I'm not really down with dark(ya know, darker than average) skinned girls. I'm guessing it comes from being around white girls all of the time, I'm just used to women with a lighter complexion. But I dunno, I just don't really get into white girls that much, well, not where I live cuz there's too many country chicks out here.

2.) Agreed with debiler. Besides, I think if she has equal looks and better personality, you'd be attracted to her moreso than someone of the same race.

[Donatello]

Here's my two cents. People are people. I don't care what you look like. There's as much skin tone difference between me and some other white people I've seen as there is between an Asian and African. We're the human race.

[OuT KasT]

I bet we've all been racist at one point of our lives but the majority of people aren't constant racists.

I live in Sydney and there are stereotypes like all Lebanese are terriosts/rapists/ car hoons/ can't fight 1 on 1 some of this what there saying is true to a minority that spoils it for one race then gets used against the whole race.

With Asians, Drug Dealers, Gooks, Spoons or considered to carry a weapon at all times again this is a minority of asians I mean some Aussies do the same thing.

With Greeks/Italians they are percieved to all be hairy but this is again a minority and uses as an insult against them another thing they are called is wogs.

Africans, considered as drug-users junkies anything to do with crime or drugs...

Finally Kiwi's and Islanders considered to be called conconuts they are percieved to be stupid, and sometimes to give sheep a sore back side.

Most of the time in one race there is always a group that recks their race's reputation then it becomes a stereotype stupid if you ask me.

Now all of you can say your not a racist but all of you shall admit that you have been racist in your lifetime.