Chicago Bulls Thread

[Unrestrict3D]

Send that #2 pick to Utah for Boozer, err nah, we'll keep Boozer. I'm not too high on this year's draft class.

[Its_asdf]

I think this should go in the Bulls thread, but trading for Randolph isn't a good idea in my opinion. Randolph is a pure PF and what the Bulls need is a legit centre.

I think that the Bulls also could use a bit more height at the shooting guard position. Ben Gordon has fine potential, but the undersized 2 guard has only worked so many times before.

[RSox]

they are going to pick Morrison

[Christopherson]

No way the Bulls pick Morrison with that pick. They already have Deng and Noccioni, the only reason they would pick Morrison there would be if they swung a deal with Minni that brought in KG and shipped one or both of those two players away.

[Gedas]

SEIBUTIS!
Ok, just joking. Maybe Bargani? If he doesn't go #1. He would fit well I think.

[Joe']

If the Raptors don't draft Bargnani, I'll be very happy if the Bulls do so...
But I don't think it's gonna happen, Bargnani said that he'll only go to Toronto.
I say they pick Aldridge or P.O'Bryant, because they really need a Center.

[JoshD]

I'm hoping the Bulls will pick up Lemarcus Aldridge he is a solid PF and have Chandler at C they don't need Morrison another scorer or SF

[RSox]

can't Morrison play power forward

[Its_asdf]

Morrison doesn't have the body to play power foward. He's only 6'8 and he isn't overly strong for his position.

[RSox]

I guess you're right he is only 205lbs

[Silas]

There are a lot of guys they can get with the a trade including the pick that will be stronger than anyone they could draft.

[Silas]

silas:

chandler- great run and jump player. for some odd reason, he's nowhere near as agile whe he has the ball- almost robotic like. has a hard time catching the ball on offense despite being able to snag rebounds from other players

initial reports on thomas is that he has excellent athleticism, great hands, and is more fluid with the ball. when you run a pick and roll with him, you can actually expect him to roll, look for the pass, catch the ball, then finish. something Chandler has yet to fully grasp

I'm not saying he will be the next tyson chandler, but it seems he's coming into the league as an athletic and animated defender with less offensive skills, for some teams thats good but i think you'd agree the Bulls need a big man who can be productive on both ends of the floor, not just one.

[KIG1]

Tyrus Thomas might not be a terrible pick here. A lot of scenarios can come into play here. Aldridge can go 1, Thomas can go 1, who knows.

[Ruff Ryder]

Send that #2 pick to New York for Eddy Curry!

[Silas]

yeah seriously

[Andrew]

Just in case anyone's wondering what happened, I've merged the #2 pick thread into the main Bulls thread since we've already got that discussion going on in here.

[beau_boy04]

lottas questions huh? lottas concers anyways I know what would be the best scenarios for the Bulls!!!!! do you wanna know???? getting the first pick overall next season in whatever way possible!!!! GREG ODEN!!!!! baby will be the next big thing!

[Andrew]

Seeing as though that scenario is somewhat unlikely and a whole year away, what do you propose they do in the meantime?

[Fenix]

Don't trade their picks - go young in the draft and get veterans via FA. If Ben Wallace is available, I'd take a flyer on him. Will he be a game changer five years down the road? Most probably not, but it gives them a strong defensive presence in the middle for at least two to three years, a winning attitude, playoff experience, leadership,... Plus, Bulls play in Chicago, a big market team, so they'll have more than enough money to retain their younger players and still get influx of quality new guys via draft (NY pick). And get rid of Chandler.

[beau_boy04]

Seeing as though that scenario is somewhat unlikely and a whole year away, what do you propose they do in the meantime?

Take the best player available in the 2nd pick overall and continue working hard with their core players - Gordon, Hinrich, Deng and Nocioni.
If a opportunity presents itself to swap their 2nd pick overall for a superstar like McGrady, KG, I would not think about it twice.

[Andrew]

If the opportunity to trade the pick for an established player who's also a legitimate star then I agree they have to at least seriously consider it. But if you're talking about getting someone like KG or T-Mac then one or two of those core players are likely going to have to be included in the package as well if such a scenario materialised.

But as far as taking the best player available, it would seem if Alridge isn't available then they'll be picking someone who plays a position where they already have a good young player. Is it worth drafting the best possible player for the purpose of a trade, or do they just deal the pick, perhaps for a lower selection and a veteran?

[Fenix]

Is there a veteran player on a market, worth of the 2nd overall pick? If JO becomes available, go for it, but I'd rather take my chances with Thomas/Aldridge/Bargnani (all PFs), than someone who'll help me win 5 games for the next three years and then retire/become shit.

[Silas]

They should probably try to still draft the best talent available, look at it this way.

Say you have a solid playoff team, such as the bulls, who landed a top pick via trade, and they have one obvious gaping hole, PF, but the remainder of their lineup is talented.
(fictional team of course)

C- Emeka Okafor
PF- Mike Sweetney
SF- Rashard Lewis
SG- Ben Gordan
PG- Luke Ridnour

Now, say players like Kobe and KG and Tmac are in the draft, just because the obvious filler spot is gone, does that mean you should pass on players like potential kobe or Tmac to fill a hole? I say draft the best player and then perhaps they can arrange a trade involving their player or one of the palyers at a position like C, SG, SF, or PG to get the player they need at PF.

[maes]

I also think they'll pick up Adam Morrison. He's a completely different player than Deng or Nocioni. He can create his own shot and has shown he's very capable of getting hot consistently. Deng & Noc are SF/PFs (actually Deng barely even played PF), Morrison will most likely play SG/SF. I'm most reminded of Mike Miller, who is someone the Bulls could have really used this year.

If not Morrison I'm guessing they'll take Bargnani or whoever shows he can have a hot hand. Regardless, they need someone who can score & create for himself. This will let BG go back into his Mr. 4Q role which was the best Bulls squad since the Jordan days. I'd much rather see Gordon explode for 22 in the 4th quarter than struggle trying to guard Shawn Marion on a pick & roll all game.

Potentially I could see a lineup of:
PG: Hinrich
SG: Morrison
SF: Deng
PF: Chandler
C: Nazr

[Dro]

Don't know if it's been posted or not, but did you folks hear the rumor about Marion, the #21, the #27 to the Bulls for BG7 and the #2? What do you guys think of that deal for both teams?

I personally think the Bulls would be better off with that deal. I don't see anybody in this draft become a top 15 player, like Shawn Marion is. And Ben Gordon would be a 20ppg scorer in the Suns' system.

However, I don't see the deal going down. The point of trading Marion would be to get rid of the logjam at PF, and getting the pick to draft Tyrus Thomas would be pointless.