Some thoughts on the recent Ballack transfer to Chelsea.

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Some thoughts on the recent Ballack transfer to Chelsea.

Postby dada on Wed May 17, 2006 3:32 pm

Just wanted to share my view of the big transfer.

I believe Ballack made a huge mistake moving to Chelsea instead of Mancheter United. I cant put it any simpler than that.

As Ballack said, Chelsea is the better side and they have won plenty of hardware but I dont see how this move helps his career. He is going to a team overflowing with stars and playing midfied where last time I checked there was no famine in sight at Chelsea when it comes to that position. They're only really lacking strikers and Jose has made it clear he is going for a big name. The club has made it known to him that he isnt guaranteed a spot in the starting 11 and even if he was there is no guarantee he will keep it. as soon as he slips up theres another name sitting on the bench waiting to take his place. At the age of 29 I dont believe a guy of his talent has enough time left to be fighting out for a starting spot, he needs to be fully utilized before his talent goes away with age.

On the other hand a move to Manchester United would be perfect for this guy. Man Utd has been lacking a strong midfield presence ever since Backham left. Ballack would immediately demand a starting spot and his presence would immediately catapult them to the same level as Chelsea or higher in the Premiership. Not only does Man Utd have a pair of fresh strikers up front (Rooney and Saha) but they also have a Diarra-Van Nistelrooy swap in the works. Can you imagine how good a midfield consisting or C. Ronaldo, Ballack, Diarra and Paul Scholes would be? He would have no real threat to his position on their bench and he could play comfortably without looking over his shoulder.


For now, I will give Ballack my blessing and pray it works out with the Blues. I just pray he doesnt rot away the talent he has on their bench sometime down the line. You shoulda went to the Reds and won some trophies while feeling as though you actually did have a huge impact on the team.
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Postby Srbija on Wed May 17, 2006 4:34 pm

I would have to agree there. Manchester United would've used his talent and not let it go to waste. Hopefully he will have a starting spot and be an impact at Chelsea before his talent is gone.

Although I still reckon he should've stayed at Bayern Munich. (Y)
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Postby Stevesanity on Wed May 17, 2006 5:23 pm

Teams like Chelsea ruin soccer. They just have too much of money and are just buying any player they want to because of their extra reserves. I hope they don't win shit next season! (N) I think Ballack is overrated as simple as that and paying him so much doesnt make sense but then again Chelsea dont seem to care about over paying their players or having huge ass transfer fees. Why does Chelsea need him in the first place is what puzzles me, they just seem to want to buy out any player Man Utd or Arsenal are interested in purchasing.
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Postby Srbija on Wed May 17, 2006 5:45 pm

Look's like they are not interested in Nikola Zigic.
Arsenal want to buy him before the World Cup because after it he will be worth more.

P.S Italics are what Wenger said.
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Postby J@3 on Wed May 17, 2006 6:05 pm

They won't waste his talent, he's one of the very few players who come to Chelsea that are basically handed a starting spot on a platter. That being said, I won't be at all surprised if either Lampard or Makelele are gone before the end of next season. I hate Chelsea, I was kinda excited when Roman first invested (I was living in England they were struggling badly with finances) because the first guys they signed were young potential stars like Glen Johnson, Wayne Bridge and Joe Cole... now they've just fucked it up by filling the team up with guys they don't even need. This isn't Football Manager (N)

Actually for fun, who have Chelsea fucked up over the years?

Wayne Bridge
Glen Johnson
Shaun Wright Phillips
Maniche
Alexei Smertin
Scott Parker
Adrian Mutu
Mateja Kezman

I'm sure there's others.
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Postby Srbija on Wed May 17, 2006 7:15 pm

Wright-Phillips is an awesome player. He is also very quick.

When I heard Kezman went to Chelsea I knew it was going to be fucked up. Luckily he now plays for Atletico Madrid and is in the starting line-up. (Y)
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Postby J@3 on Wed May 17, 2006 7:19 pm

Yeah I like SWP too.. unfortunately he's barely being used, to the point where he might end up going back to Manchester City. Hopefully it's not too late like it was for Scott Parker (N)
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Postby Srbija on Wed May 17, 2006 7:45 pm

Yeah, I remember a match not too long ago where the other team (Man Utd?) had the ball in their own field and this guy passed it and SWP intercepted it ran into the box with defenders on him and played the pass to Essien I think it was. That was top stuff.
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Postby peaches on Wed May 17, 2006 9:49 pm

Jae wrote:That being said, I won't be at all surprised if either Lampard or Makelele are gone before the end of next season.


*I have limited knowledge about soccer so don't kill me if im wrong*

Isn't Lampard one of the mainstays of the squad? If so i don't understand why he would leave.

Wayne Bridge
Glen Johnson
Shaun Wright Phillips
Maniche
Alexei Smertin
Scott Parker
Adrian Mutu
Mateja Kezman


Didn't he have a starting spot with Crespo not too long ago? I agree that Chelsea has ruined the EPL. Its fucking ridiculous. Imagine if Mark Cuban or someone did this in the NBA :crazy:
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Postby J@3 on Wed May 17, 2006 10:02 pm

Lampard is a mainstay, but he and Ballack are also similar players. Barcelona have a massive interest in Lampard..

If so i don't understand why he would leave.


He wouldn't have a choice, it'd be upto the club. I'd say Makelele would go before Lampard, but if it came down to it knowing Chelsea I don't think they'd hesitate if they had to clear some room.

Didn't he have a starting spot with Crespo not too long ago?


Nope. He started off with a bang, went through a small form slump and was pretty much resigned to barely playing. After this, he turnt in a positive drug test and was released. He plays for Juventus or something now. Crespo started off in the first team but again, had a form slump and never got to play. They loaned him out to Milan where he did great, then they brought him back pretty much out of spite. I don't think he plays very much anymore either way.
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Postby peaches on Wed May 17, 2006 10:16 pm

What a waste. Crespos awesome.

Barcelona have a massive interest in Lampard..


:shock: Ronaldniho + Lampard + Eto'o = A-m-a-z-i-n-g.

What would the starting line up be now that Ballack is in?
Again, *limited knowledge* but wouldn't Chelsea lack team chemistry with all the new players coming in and such? With their success its amazing how well they gelled together so quickly. :?
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Postby J@3 on Wed May 17, 2006 10:21 pm

I have no idea... they're saying Lampard and Ballack can play together in the same midfield, but where does that leave Makelele :? unless they play Lampard out on the wing, then there's also Essien... the last thing they needed was another midfielder.
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Postby Chris. on Thu May 18, 2006 1:44 am

From a Man U fan, as I am, point of view I would of loved to see him come to Man U and not Chelsea and he wouldn't of been more beneficial for us. Chelsea right now are just buying trophies and for me I just wish there was some kind of rule to the amount you are allowed to spend because Chelsea dont really care at how much they spend on players as long as they win trophies. I don't see why they wanted him anyway because they are already pretty solid in midfield but with money to waste it doesn't really matter to them. Did you guys also hear that he's rumoured to be getting £130,000 a week :shock:
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Postby Anthony15 on Thu May 18, 2006 8:57 am

Nice, another great move by Abramovich, now we need Shevcheko and Champions League Cup is ours!
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Postby Abctest123 on Thu May 18, 2006 9:11 am

would you say that Chelsea is almost to the point that they are like Real Madrid (except this is what Real Madrid COULD have been). Hope they dont win EPL next year and Arsenal does :lol: . Somewhat hard though, Arsenal isnt exactly near where they were a few years back, maybe in another 2-3 years Arsenal will win it.
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Postby Anthony15 on Thu May 18, 2006 12:56 pm

It isn't Real Madrid, cuz they don't have an all star roster. Their attackers and some midfilders might be superstas, but defense, not really. This guys actually try hard, unlike thouse losers like Zidane, Figo, Beckham that sucked playin for Madrid!
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Postby dada on Thu May 18, 2006 1:30 pm

Jae wrote:They won't waste his talent, he's one of the very few players who come to Chelsea that are basically handed a starting spot on a platter.

I'm not too sure about that. They told him it wasnt guaranteed and for a player of his stature I dont see how he would be happy to be in that situation. Imagine Henry going to Barca and them telling him he has to fight for a spot, thats almost disrespectful in a way considering what he has accomplished.
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Postby J@3 on Thu May 18, 2006 2:34 pm

They wouldn't have told him it wasn't guaranteed, he wouldn't have signed otherwise. All I've read from Mourinho is him saying Ballack and Lampard can co-exist in the same midfield, to me that means he's starting.
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