Source: Nash to be MVP

[Andrew]

I wonder why Nash escapes criticsm from casual fans and those 2 dont..

Kobe and LeBron suffer from the same stigma as Michael Jordan once did. So many good things are written about them, they held in such high esteem that there's a knee-jerk reaction that they really can't be as good as advertised. Nash gets a lot of hype in the MVP Talk but he's never billed as the greatest individual player in the league which would certainly invite the same kind of revolt against him. It's not right, but it is the product of a more cynical fanbase with a greater appreciation for anti-culture.

[Drex]

I can't believe I don't care about this year MVP award I'm not pissed, or happy or anything. Damn, I need to watch more NBA.

[Matt]

Oh well, Chauncey will just have to do with another Finals MVP....sigh!

[TRUball]

Well David Alridge from TNT just confirmed that these are accurate. Saying that a league spokesperson said that the league won't hold out on naming Nash, I mean naming who the NBA MVP is.

[powerhoward85]

Nash is the MVP. For those who have been arguing over weeks, is time to look at the fact.

Anyway, for those who says nash shouldnt have won it because his play is a result of the benefits he gets in the fast running suns system. That to me is bullshit to a certain extent. I agree nash benefits from the system. How about Kobe, how about dirk, how about lebron. Didnt they benefits from their own system too. Clearly the players above are the players that their system is built around with. Lakers is designed for kobe, Dallas is for dirk and cavaliers is for Lebron. It is not fair to say nash shouldnt got the mvp over these three because nash has a system specially for him, all of them has it too.

In any case, a system that fits the player does help to bring out his talents. In all, nash has brought out his talents and shows it. And the fact is, nash is performing great this year.

For those who said it is unfair to look at the team record since nash has marion with him, suns have amare and marion before the arrival of nash, they were below 30 wins in that year. Marion was an All star in that year too, but the suns still sucks. It was nash that turned them around, giving him the mvp last year. It was nash that keeps the suns going w/o amare and still among the contenders' region, giving him the mvp this year.

For the what more kobe need to do to win the mvp topic, bring lakers to 60 wins, or may be 55. Just joking. It wasn't kobe is not doing enough, is that the competition is too high. If he produced this effort the second year duncan wins the mvp, he should have a higher chance to win.

[Matt]

How about Kobe, how about dirk, how about lebron. Didnt they benefits from their own system too.

Personally yes, but the guys around them aren't good for the system they play in. In Nash's case he's got perfect players for that type of game.

[TRUball]

Lakers is designed for kobe,

Oh yeah... the triangle offence that was created by Tex Winters, used all by Chicago with Jordan then brought to the Laker's once Phil came to LA... of course that was designed for Kobe.

[powerhoward85]

Oh yeah... the triangle offence that was created by Tex Winters, used all by Chicago with Jordan then brought to the Laker's once Phil came to LA... of course that was designed for Kobe.

So you mean the triangle offence is the same when it runs through jordan and shaq???

If you think i'm wrong to say it is designed for kobe, fine, i change it. It is adjusted for kobe.

Triangle offence is not any simple play. It is complicated and it contains many possible changes. It's is never the same, so it is not the same for the one used by jordan, shaq and kobe. May be a bit similar for jordan's and kobe's, but is it 100% not the same with shaq's. This season, phil jackson adjusted it specifically for kobe to perform at his best.

[Air Jordon]

thats great to hear. I cant think of anyone else that makes his team and players around him better, and need him so bad. Sure kobe is needed for the lakers, but he dont make the laker players better. Nash should win it, there really is no other choice.

[pencil]

Nash looks like a pedophile.

[Matthew]

Haha agreed, he even talks like one.

thats great to hear. I cant think of anyone else that makes his team and players around him better, and need him so bad. Sure kobe is needed for the lakers, but he dont make the laker players better. Nash should win it, there really is no other choice.

Please. How does Nash make them better? Becuase they post better stats? Thats becuase of the tempo of the game. And im sick to death of that arguement. The award isnt "who makes his teamates better", otherwise stockton would have won 10 mvps. Its most valuable player.. and kobe is the most valueable to his team.

[Axel]

How about Kobe, how about dirk, how about lebron. Didnt they benefits from their own system too.

Personally yes, but the guys around them aren't good for the system they play in. In Nash's case he's got perfect players for that type of game.

Oddly enough, very few people thought that coming into this season until Steve Nash started racking up the assist numbers.

Like I said earlier, Kobe has Phil and the triangle, and Nash has benefitted from D'Antoni. It's impossible to weigh one versus the other without using abstract "what if" comparisons. What if Nash played for LA? What if Kobe played for PHX? Nobody knows.

[Matthew]

Axel, the point is the system that pheonix used is a very fast pace. More possesions, more opportunities to score, get assists, shoot a better % etc. Its not 100% nash that is the reason for boris diaw's improvement, nor is it nash's play that has made marion into a great player.

[Matt]

yes, all people look at is how Nash posts 10+ assists, but can't even muster a 3 to 1 turnover ratio.....which is the standard PG's are judged by.

[Matthew]

But he;s white, not american and small! MVP MVP MVP

[Matt]

it must kill Stern that none of his Golden Boys (Shaq, Wade, Lebron, Nash, Kobe etc) aren't on a 60+ win team. Instead he's got 3 TEAMS that aren't exactly marketable.

Takes the credibility out of the awards that players on 2nd tier teams can win it...back in the day it was always a guy from an outstanding team.

[Matthew]

Dirk is a bonafide superstar in this league, and he's on a 60 win ball club. You cant really call kobe one of sterns golden boys either, the nba doesnt really market him the way they do shaq, lebron and wade.

[dada]

Dirk is a bonafide superstar in this league, and he's on a 60 win ball club. You cant really call kobe one of sterns golden boys either, the nba doesnt really market him the way they do shaq, lebron and wade.

Agreed. Dirk has awesome individual numbers but I guess they dont like the European flavor for MVP.

[Silas]

i was hoping kobe but nash has done great so far, hes not the best individual player, and if you took him out the suns would be better than the lakers without kobe, but he's made the suns win far more games and stay as good without certain players...

[Matthew]

Nash still has marion, who is far and away better than another Kobe has on his team.

[TRUball]

So you mean the triangle offence is the same when it runs through jordan and shaq???

If you think i'm wrong to say it is designed for kobe, fine, i change it. It is adjusted for kobe.

Triangle offence is not any simple play. It is complicated and it contains many possible changes. It's is never the same, so it is not the same for the one used by jordan, shaq and kobe. May be a bit similar for jordan's and kobe's, but is it 100% not the same with shaq's. This season, phil jackson adjusted it specifically for kobe to perform at his best.

Touche.

yes, all people look at is how Nash posts 10+ assists, but can't even muster a 3 to 1 turnover ratio.....which is the standard PG's are judged by.

Agreed, what does he have anyways, something like 2.5 or so?

Dirk is a bonafide superstar in this league, and he's on a 60 win ball club. You cant really call kobe one of sterns golden boys either, the nba doesnt really market him the way they do shaq, lebron and wade.

Indeed, I would have no problem at all with Dirk winning the MVP. Also, the NBA did market Kobe after the 81 points, but then that died out a bit I guess.

[Matt]

yeah can't argue about Dirk, as well as Tim Duncan...but neither is part of the "highlight" club that makes the game easy to market.

[Matthew]

Shaq isnt a really a highlight player either, or Nash.

[dada]

I think Nash is highlight enough. Shaq just has that MVP personality though (for the market I guess).

[Matthew]

I'd say Iverson is more flashy/highlight material than Nash. And personality doesn't make you marketable, look at steve nash and kenny smith.