Americans are stupid......I have proof

[Laxation]

Its like argueing with a retard who just decided to go all 19th-century-english-woman on your ass...

Im being defensive because it really shits me that you keep going back to your own assumption back in the ben wallace thread, even though it is out of context, and isnt even true in the first place, which is why I tell you to learn to put senteces together. (Im talking about reading here, not writing to clear it up)
You keep making fucking stupid assumptions from what I say that arent true, and then try to use it against me, and thats what shits me

[Stevesanity]

No he isnt. He is saying that Australians wouldnt know places in America.

And I bet there's millions of them who don't. Because they're stupid. Just like Americans.

I even bet there's some Australians who think you can't use how many points a team allowed to measure how good their defense is.

They are not stupid because they are Americans, and they are not Americans because they are stupid. The only thing that defines an American is that they were born in the United States. If all variables were unchanged except for them being born in Aussieland, they'd be dumb Aussies instead of dumb Americans.

And they might not even be dumb for all we know. Remember, Einstein failed a math entrance exam. It's all about where your strength and weaknesses lie.

I find all of the wealthier nations pretty ignorant of the world around them

Then you must find poor nations really ignorant, because some of them don't even know there's a rest of the world. Their focus is not dying and finding food. They could care less if Kofi Annan's son is part of the biggest scandal in world history for example. In fact, in some African nations they only thing they probably care about the rest of the world is why they keep sending bluehelmets over to rape their girls while claiming to "help" them.

The fact is people in wealthy countries are actually educated unlike in most parts of Africa, thats not even a valid arguement. Take a look at the country folk that run a mock in some of our states, they were never educated and therefore are mocked at by a majority of our populations because of their lack of knowledge of modern society and old beliefs that because their white they happen to be smarter than anyone of color.

[benji]

Its like argueing with a retard

Hmm. I feel Jae might find that ironic.

Im being defensive because it really shits me that you keep going back to your own assumption back in the ben wallace thread, even though it is out of context, and isnt even true in the first place, which is why I tell you to learn to put senteces together. (Im talking about reading here, not writing to clear it up)

Hmm. Reading isn't "putting sentences together" that's writing. Reading is "reading comprehension."

From 2000 to 2001, Wallace only improved the defense from 105.7 to 102.5, 19th to 9th. (From +1.6 to -1.3 compared to the league.)

thats a load of crap. you cant measure this stuff with stats.

...

maybe without ben, they would have given up 120ppg... maybe they would have given up 80... its just a story stats cant tell

My statement: Historical data shows Wallace's arrival in 2001 to possibly impact the Pistons defense to be around 3-3.5 points. Much less than the ten points advocated by some forumers.

Your statement: Wallace's impact being 3-3.5 points is a "load of crap", that you can't measure changes in a teams defense "with stats", in this case the stat being opposing teams points.

Your secondary statement: That something that didn't happen cannot be measured by the results of what did happen.

Your statements are not being removed from context but instead applied to the overall discussional context. Thatwhich being the discussion of how much impact on defense Ben Wallace truly had, indications from the historical record being that Wallace's impact was lower than people were stating. The only logical assumption one can draw from you calling it a "load of crap" was that you were contending that the historical record was infact incorrect, and with your diatribe against the facts one can only conclude you were calling the facts wrong. In order to call the facts wrong you must believe that defense is not best measured by opponents points. If you are not contending this, and accept the conventional and logical wisdom that defense is best measured by opponent points, then it cannot be a load of crap otherwise you are arguing contrary to your own beliefs as well as reality. This is a judgement that was made plausable when you responded to my statement of:

Offense wins more regular season games, but only having good offense and good defense wins championships.

with

your just talking shit benji
all defence obviously wont win, and all offence wont win either.

what you need is a mix, but having more offence than defence is better than vice versa.

Thus into my head entered doubts of your reading comprehension capabilities.

You have done nothing to dispell these doubts and used undirected comments from myself as a launching pad for an irate series of insults belying your immaturity.

[Laxation]

This is a judgement that was made plausable when you responded to my statement of:

Offense wins more regular season games, but only having good offense and good defense wins championships.

with

your just talking shit benji
all defence obviously wont win, and all offence wont win either.

what you need is a mix, but having more offence than defence is better than vice versa.

I was responding to the start of your post:

If you can't score, but still hold the other team to zero points, the best you can do is tie.

Let's say a team full of Michael Ruffins can hold opposing teams to 20...no 40 points below their average. They would still lose 57-30.

Thats talking shit because its never going to happen, means nothing and like I said before hypotheticals cant be measured with stats, but for some reason you seem assured that they can. And thats what I'm talking about in this next bit.

Your statement: Wallace's impact being 3-3.5 points is a "load of crap", that you can't measure changes in a teams defense "with stats", in this case the stat being opposing teams points.

Im saying you cant measure changes in a teams defence with stats referring to every team changing from 2000-2001, thus their offence and defence changed with it. this would have changed the amount of points detroit scored with/without Ben.

^ http://www.nbaliveforums.com/sutra545509.php#545509 ^

Has it sunk in yet? Im not arguing with stats, Im saying that stats cant measure hypothetical situations

[Nick]

Woah... Ben can still burn, only he doesn't use sarcasm anymore, only facts.

That's like Wade adding a 3pt shot.

[spreeul8r]

Americans aren't "stupid". But that was really funny

I do think that Americans in general might be slighty more naive when it comes to issues like terrorism, Iraq etc. Thats to be expected though. Their mainstream media is working overtime to sell the current and impending wars to them. It would be the same for any country if they were the leading superpower, the news media coverage wouldnt be the same standard of quality that alot of other countries enjoy.

I am in no way bagging Americans here, just your standard of news coverage (in general, of course there are exceptions). Oh and your government

[benji]

Their mainstream media is working overtime to sell the current and impending wars to them.

Right...nobody's behind it like the media...

Anyway. The real reason I'm bumping.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/0 ... scash.html

Young Americans know little about world geography, with the majority unable to locate Iraq on a map and three quarters unable to find Indonesia, according to a study.

The Roper poll conducted on behalf of National Geographic found that most of the young adults questioned between the ages of 18 and 24 also had little knowledge about their own country, with half or fewer unable to identify the states of New York or Ohio on a map.

Moreover, the study said, many of those questioned were not bothered by their lack of geographic knowledge.

Let the America bashing recommence and/or continue.

[The_Flying_Tomato]

that's because we've got too many stupid shits who watch mtv

[Scotty]

that's because we've got too many stupid shits who watch mtv

like my sister