KG to the Bulls???!!

[RedTorro]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com ... Dheadlines

One can only dream..
I would love to see KG back in his hometown and bring excitement back to chicago. What i don't agree with is all the talent the Bulls would be pissing away to get KG. A top pick, Jay williams,Robinson, Chandler and Rose? No thank you. Last time they gave away guys like Artest, Miller, and Brand. I would hate to see young talent like that dealt away. Sure you'll bring KG in but he'll have the same problem that he left with Minnesota with no guys to help him out. KG is a superstar but basketball is about 5 on 5 not 5 on 1. Chicago has been rebuilding over and over and if they trade away those guys to get KG they'll have to rebuild again to surround KG.

[air gordon]

i read this in the paper today. this is the 2nd time Smith wrote an article about this trade. so maybe there's a chance this deal could happen?!

i wouldn't want to see chandler go, but if it will land KG, i would go for it.

redbulls- i think the Bulls would have to give a lot to get him cuz
1)they would have to include players that would match KG's salary
2)KG is Minnesota's best player ever, is one of the league's best players, and he is still in his prime. so i think naturally the T'wolves would have a high asking price

IF the trade went through the lineup could look like this:
C- Curry
PF- Marshall
SF- Garnett
SG- ??
PG- Crawford

bench: Fizer, baxter, hassell, dali, mason, 2nd round pick
As Smith said, the Bulls would most likely use their mid level exception to sign a SG (Corey Maggette, Antonio Daniels, Jason Terry or James Posey were listed as possible candidates).

although the bench is somewhat weak, i think that team would make a lot of noise in the Eastern conference.

but who knows? this all may be a pipe dream

[Andrew]

KG in Chicago? Sure. But for those four players? Not if they can avoid it, though they probably wouldn't have a choice. Never mind the fairness of the trade - not many players in the NBA could be traded straight up for KG's contract.

[Stevan]

If that were to happen... bring back Corey Benjamin to play the 2!

[BIG GREEN]

Heh man..i'd love to see The Kid on the east coast. Also, for his career, this might be a good move. He could possibly see 'playoff second round day light' on the EASY coast if they build a decent team around him.

[Andrew]

He might not have to change teams to move East though. With New Orleans set to move to the Western Conference, both Minnesota and Memphis are looking to move East.

[bballer22]

i dont see why he would ever want to move to Bulls, lets not forget East is not a Domestic team confrance, its got goot teams,
if he would go to the bulls they will hve to give away some of their great future players, KG is si desparae to win that it would just not work out for him

[Rens]

I bet KG would love to have Curry by his side.. the post option he never had in Minny.

If they could get Magette or Posey they'd be all set, starting Hassel wouldn't be a disaster either.

[paul_pierce_the_truth]

They sure are giving up a lot for Garnett, I mean a lottery pick plus four good future players. Jalen Rose is very good right now.

I believe Garnett played one year of High School basketball in Chicago but his hometown I think is Mauldin, South Carolina. From what I understand something real ugly happened down there involving Garnett and he moved to Chicago. I might be wrong about it all, but I have heard some stories, he may like Chicago, but I don't consider one year to make a hometown.

Why wouldn't Memphis or Minnesota want to move to the East?
They could both do much better with scheduled opponents being weaker and certainly less travel. It should be Memphis, they are way more East, but one might consider Minnesota, because they have played very well and help the east, and have been in the league longer I think.

Garnett has a salary extention that is unreal, almost 30 million per year, come on already. That is just so high. I blame Kevin McHale for this.

Jalen Rose
Jay Williams
Eddie Robinson
Tyson Chandler
Lottery Pick

or

Kevin Garnett

Minnesota better jump on this.

It says if Chicago can get in the top 3 they may not make a move. I can't say that adding Carmelo Anthony or LeBron James would make much difference right away. Maybe they could pull back Jalen if they land say the #3 pick. Give them just the pick and pull back Chandler, Jalen or Jay Williams.

If they pick like number 7 or so and make this trade, Minnesota could add someone like Dwayne Wade of Marquette or maybe even T.J. Ford.

Imagine

Dwayne Wade (TJ Ford)
Jay Williams
Jalen Rose
Eddie Robinson
Tyson Chandler
for
Kevin Garnett

This trade would make Minnesota look pretty good, especially moving to the east.

Guards
Troy Hudson
Jay Williams
Jalen Rose
*Terrell Brandon
*Dwayne Wade or someone

Forwards
Joe Smith
Wally Szczerbiak
Eddie Robinson
Tyson Chandler

Centers
Marc Jackson
Radoslav Nesterovic

This team does lack a sure scorer and dominator. Though I think Tyson Chandler could become about 80% of Kevin Garnett's level of talent soon.

Chicago would be pretty short on players, I really think giving Garnett so much money will hurt either of the teams. The Lakers have so much invested in Shaquille O'Neal, that they are strapped for cap space.

These are just my opinions, this is a great week coming up with the lottery Thursday night!!

[air gordon]

Jalen Rose
Jay Williams
Eddie Robinson
Tyson Chandler
Lottery Pick

sure seems a lot for KG. but from a bull's fan point of view....

Jalen Rose: Rose is still a good player, but not an all-star. he would serve much better on a team where he's the 2nd option, yet he makes superstar $$

Jay Williams: had a disappointing rookie year. still has a chance to be great. but i don't think the smallish backcourt of williams/crawford would work out for an entire season. IMO bulls need to pick one PG and get rid of the other

eddie robinson: he's like croshere- had a nice playoff, inked at big contract but has been a disappointment since. sure he can jump out of the gym but he can't even stay healthy for an entire season.

tyson: i'm guessing he's the centerpiece of the deal. chandler does have the potential to be a very special player

lottery pick: assuming this pick is between 7-10, should be a decent player, but not an impact player. bulls have enough young players to develop already.



and in getting KG: the bulls haven't had a legit superstar since the Glory years. i think his addition would make them instant title contenders. chicago isn't his hometown, but its seems it would be a good fit: a big superstar in a big city with the big endorsement possibilities.

it would make sense that if the bulls land KG, Maggette or Posey would want to sign with the Bulls for the MLE. i think Garnett would be definitely happier in this situation, especially since he'll be playing with a legit post presence in Curry and a good slasher (maggette or posey) for the first time in his career.

While it does the leave the Bulls a little short on dept, at least they are making a decision on their future. I would much rather have that then waiting to see if the crawford/williams experiment works out, if rose becomes a better team player and defers to the young guys, etc.....

[Andrew]

When it's broken down like that, it doesn't seem such a bad deal. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the Bulls acquire someone like KG, but the fact remains, it's an awful lot...I would hope that only 4 of those need be traded, with one being interchangeable (say, Jay Williams or the lottery pick).

I agree, the small backcourt is risky, but Crawford is 6'5" - and the small backcourt doesn't seem to be much of a problem for the Sixers (I'm comparing height here, not skill). Obviously, when you have a chance to get a player like KG, you might have to consider abandoning your previous plans, but I don't think we or the Bulls management should give up on Jay Will just yet.

That said, assuming we can keep the lottery pick, then trading him might not be such a bad option. I just think trading all five for KG leaves the Bulls without a parachute so to speak. Yes, it's the Eastern conference, and KG is an outstanding player. But so is Gary Payton, yet Seattle was below .500 for most of his time there this year, and Milwaukee had a sub .500 record during Payton's short tenure.

The question is, should the Bulls go for a quick fix (KG), or continue patiently developing? Since we're only going to see one or the other, we'll never know for sure which would yield the best results, in practice. If it comes down to getting KG, I'm hoping that Chicago can get him for as little as the salary cap and Kevin McHale's intellect will allow.

[Matthew]

I think Jalen is the centrepiece of this deal from chicago's perspective. Like limpdizlnik said, he earns superstar money but is better to be a second option. That's true, but becuase he is in Chicago he wants to be the man, and that is somewhat holding some of the development back. So which way is Chicago supposed to go? They pay rose superstar money, but they have this great young talent what are they supposed to do with it?

With a trade they unload some of the players who are battling for spots with other young players (Curry/ Chandler battling to be the goto post guy, Williams/ Crawford battle for starting pg) and they get rid of the "loser" and bring in a MVP calibur player in KG, who can help with the development becuase he doesn't dominate the basketball, it fixes the rose "situation" and lets Crawford continue to make strides and get somthing back for Jay Williams while there is still some interest.

[air gordon]

Yes, it's the Eastern conference, and KG is an outstanding player. But so is Gary Payton, yet Seattle was below .500 for most of his time there this year, and Milwaukee had a sub .500 record during Payton's short tenure.

point taken but i don't think it's necessarily a fair comparison: GP went to a team full of good perimeter players... whereas KG would go to a team with legit post players (curry, marshall, fizer) and more then decent perimeter players like crawford & hoiberg (j/k) (and possibly if maggette/posey choose to sign)

If it comes down to getting KG, I'm hoping that Chicago can get him for as little as the salary cap and Kevin McHale's intellect will allow.

but i do think it's worth the gamble to include Jay Will in a trade if it will net a superstar in return

With a trade they unload some of the players who are battling for spots with other young players (Curry/ Chandler battling to be the goto post guy...

i don't think those 2 are in competition. i think the bulls want curry to be the starting C and chandler to be the starting PF. as far as being the go-to-guy in the post... Curry already has shown flashes of being unstoppable, dare i say "shaq-like". Chandler's post game still seems raw.

[Andrew]

get somthing back for Jay Williams while there is still some interest.

That's a good point. As much as I think it's too early to give up on Jay Will, no one knows for sure whether this was the disappointment before the surprise breakout, so it might be wise to consider getting something for him while he still has trade value. Also, I agree with limp,

it's worth the gamble to include Jay Will in a trade if it will net a superstar in return

which ties in with trading Jay Will before his stock falls further. The only fault I can find with this idea is if Jay Will is traded, develops into the player we all expected, and KG leaves Chicago via free agency in 2004. But that's just another what if, and fairly pessimistic thinking, I admit.

point taken but i don't think it's necessarily a fair comparison: GP went to a team full of good perimeter players... whereas KG would go to a team with legit post players (curry, marshall, fizer) and more then decent perimeter players like crawford & hoiberg (j/k) (and possibly if maggette/posey choose to sign)

That's true, it's not exactly the same situation, same kind of players etc, and it was a pretty generalised comparison on my part. I guess I'm always hoping there's a backup plan if something falls through.

[air gordon]

I guess I'm always hoping there's a backup plan if something falls through

i hear you on that one. especially since krause's rebuilding plans kept on falling through. with all the losing, i've developed a pessimistic condition myself.

it's only fitting the player labeled 'most nba ready' coming out of college goes to the bulls and struggles for most of his rookie year

[Andrew]

That's one of the reasons I'm slightly apprehensive about such a blockbuster trade as the one we're discussing - it's a very Jerry Krause way of rebuilding. To me, it seems like Krause turned too many corners, scrapped plans too quickly, tried quick fixes and changed the formula too soon.

Another multi-player deal would be very Krause-like, which is to say risky, and abandoning a team that might be on the rise. But then again, it might not, and any deal for a player like KG has to be given consideration and negotiation.

After all, anything's better than Scottie Pippen for Roy Rogers and a second round pick, right?

[Matthew]

i don't think those 2 are in competition. i think the bulls want curry to be the starting C and chandler to be the starting PF. as far as being the go-to-guy in the post... Curry already has shown flashes of being unstoppable, dare i say "shaq-like". Chandler's post game still seems raw.

I never said they were battling to be the centre . I said to be the premier post player, and obviously Curry has won that so why not get rid of Chandler (who won't be able to really develop down low with curry there trying to learn the ropes) for a guy like KG and get rid of Jalen Rose and Jay Williams (i touched on why they would want to see the end of Jalens career as a bull earlier).

I think this entire trade will depend on how well the bulls go in the draft. If they get the number one pick, I can't see Chicago trading Lebron James along with Jay Williams and Tyson Chandler. If Chicago gets a pick from 4- 13 then I think this deal is a real possibility.