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Postby Matthew on Sun May 18, 2003 6:57 pm

Well, seeing there is no other Matthew that i'm aware of in this thread it was logical for me to think that you were talking about me, and you agreed yourself. So why did you say
My assumptions? What made you think I was talking about you? Just cause I said "matthew" doesn't mean I'm refering to you...although in this instance, I was.

Did you say this simply to post it? :lol: heheh
Also, don't mock me...

Please, you started the name calling and getting all defensive. All I did was laugh. If you don't like it, tough, I can laugh at you all I want. This to me seems to be another example of how you think your above everyone else "What?! You're laughing at me?! Stop that at once I declare!"
Hehehe
Where did I say anything about anything in that paragraph, save the 'sake of posting' thing? When does disagreeing have anything to do with that? Disagreements cause discussion...which is what we want. If we didn't disagree, there wouldn't be discussion because everyone would have the same view...duh...

You implied earlier that I was targeting you and was posting just for the sake of posting, and I was just pointing out to you that I was posting becuase I disagreed with not just you, but also others, and i felt like throwing my 2 cents in.
I never said you didn't contribute to the discussion...I said you posted for the sake of posting, and you did.

Hehehe, nice contradiction :lol: (Saying I contributed to the discussion then saying I "posted only for the sake of posting")
"Wait," you say? Well, your whole "you're an argumentative person" was posted for the sake of posting it (or, as it was probably intended, to start a flame war), and it did nothing but DETRACT from the discussion.

No, becuase I said more in that post than just that. And I can share my opinion of why people like to cause lengthy debates. Just like you're entitled to comment on my debating skills, which you said before I mentioned the arguementative thing.
Here's one last thing: I have a large vocabulary, and I use it whenever I want. However, I don't always use it because people like you accuse me of trying to sound smart, and I don't want people to think I think I'm better than them. If you actually knew me, you'd know this is true.

I couldn't care less if you have a large or small vocabulary. It's, um, irrelivent :lol:
I'd appreciate it if you didn't mock my occasional use of words that are more flattering than 'stupid,' 'moron,' and the like...or would you rather I used four letter expletives for you? I can do either...but since I'm asking you to stop making fun of that facet of my posting style, consider that a warning...

I thought the paragraph before was your last thing :? . Hmm. Anyways, I don't care if you swear. But you critisised my posting style before saying I sounded like an asshole, yet you can't take it when someone "mocks" ( :lol: ) yours. And, since when have you the authority to give warnings? :P
If you want to make fun of me for that, make fun of Eugene, Dr. P, DRESPN, and Yohance (when he feels like using it ) for using words that aren't in common conversation.

Why would I make fun of them? I respect them :)
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Postby Wall St. Peon on Mon May 19, 2003 3:23 am

Well, seeing there is no other Matthew that i'm aware of in this thread it was logical for me to think that you were talking about me, and you agreed yourself. So why did you say


I could have been talking about someone else...many people have monikers instead of their real names...you just assumed I was talking to you, hence the comment; I just happened to be talking about you.

Did you say this simply to post it? heheh


Considering you said something about me talking about you, no, it wasn't for the sake of posting, it was a response. You said something about assumptions, and so did I...you're not too good at rhetoric, are you?

Please, you started the name calling and getting all defensive. All I did was laugh. If you don't like it, tough, I can laugh at you all I want. This to me seems to be another example of how you think your above everyone else "What?! You're laughing at me?! Stop that at once I declare!"
Hehehe


It's a violation of the rules, and while I violated the rules as well, you did it first in an attempt to start a flame war - which you did - and I know name calling doesn't hurt your feelings. I called you names to show that I'm not all that serious about this whole thing and also to show my opinion of you...:roll:

As for me being above everyone else, I asked you directly not to mock me. I don't know if you know anything at all about harrassment laws (odds are you don't), but once someone asks you to stop something you must stop otherwise legal action can be brought against. Now, while I wouldn't do that because it's a frickin' message board, it's the same thing, and I asked Andrew to have a talk with you because, quite frankly, it's annoying as I make few posts on this board and any chance you get you take a cheap shot at me.

You implied earlier that I was targeting you and was posting just for the sake of posting, and I was just pointing out to you that I was posting becuase I disagreed with not just you, but also others, and i felt like throwing my 2 cents in.


I explained why I said you were posting for the sake of posting and you WERE targeting me with your 'argumentative' comment. Everyone on the board is agrumentative; I just tend to have different points of views than everyone else...which apparently is evil!

Hehehe, nice contradiction (Saying I contributed to the discussion then saying I "posted only for the sake of posting")


I never SAID (you quoted me) that you did not contribute to the discussion. I know it's a contradiction, that's why I had the clarifying statement next...

No, becuase I said more in that post than just that. And I can share my opinion of why people like to cause lengthy debates. Just like you're entitled to comment on my debating skills, which you said before I mentioned the arguementative thing.


I made one post and didn't mention you at all. I comment on your debating skills because you always try to sound smart but you don't make sense, and also, your arguments are set up illogically. Your debating skills DO suck. Look at this one, you're trying to be clever by saying I'm contradicting myself when I take care of the contradiction in the next sentnece and POINT OUT that I KNOW it's a contradiction...sheesh. As for the argumentative comment, it was completely unneeded, and, therefore, posted for the sake of posting. Do you understand anything that I'm typing?

I couldn't care less if you have a large or small vocabulary. It's, um, irrelivent


Seeing as you were making fun of my uses of 'daft,' 'dolt,' and what not, it IS relevant. If you're gonna be a smartass, at least spell the word right...

I thought the paragraph before was your last thing . Hmm. Anyways, I don't care if you swear. But you critisised my posting style before saying I sounded like an asshole, yet you can't take it when someone "mocks" ( ) yours. And, since when have you the authority to give warnings?


*sigh* OK, look at the topic of the 'one last thing' paragraph. Now, move to the next one. Surprise! They're talking about the SAME thing. You ARE an asshole. I've talked to you personally on msn, and you are an asshole. When do I have the authority? Since I had the right to say 'don't mock me.' You're mocking me, not anyone else; if I was warning you when you were making fun of someone else, then yeah, you could say that, but it's different because I'm the butt of your...weird and not really funny to anyone but you....jokes.

Why would I make fun of them? I respect them


And that sums it up right there. They make long arguments. They use 'big words.' But you respect them when they're just as argumentative as me. You don't respect me, hence the rude argumentative comment. The comment was, therefore, intended to start something or at least 'hurt my feelings' or something...I don't know why you did it, but I can make an accurate assumption since I know how you like to start stuff on the board (remember how you used to ask me to 'back you up' in discussions where you made comments like the one you made to me? You did shit like this all the time...).

Your last comment sums it up. Andrew wants a board respectful of others, and I'm not getting the respect I deserve. I've been here for a long time, and you've been here a while as well. I'm not saying I deserve more respect than the next person, I'm just saying that I don't deserve some 18 year old who's still acting like he's 14 annoying me when I make my one or two posts a day (unless some retard is being an asshole).

And a quick thing on your debating skills: you DON'T know what you're doing about when it comes to debating. I do, and I can accurately criticize those skills; it's more constructive criticism than anything else. It bugs the hell out of me to have a debate like this when the other person is so ignorant that they think they're being clever and point out supposed semantic problems when they're just completely missing the point, which is exactly you are doing. Don't say "you're just acting smart again;" I've taken gobs of classes on debate and rhetoric and semantics and so on, and it's obvious you don't know a damned thing about them...

Just post on the board and leave me alone (that's twice now I've asked you to stop this shit). The quality of posters has gone down, no thanks to assholes like you. I might leave the NBA board if I have to waste my time with pointless discussions because someone's ego needs a boost with a cheap stab at another board member.
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Postby Matthew on Mon May 19, 2003 1:05 pm

I could have been talking about someone else...many people have monikers instead of their real names...you just assumed I was talking to you, hence the comment; I just happened to be talking about you.

So whats the issue? Lol, you said Matthew, I thought you were talking about me and you were.
Considering you said something about me talking about you, no, it wasn't for the sake of posting, it was a response. You said something about assumptions, and so did I...you're not too good at rhetoric, are you?

Well, you were talking about me, so why did you bother posting it? Huh? lol :lol:
It's a violation of the rules, and while I violated the rules as well, you did it first in an attempt to start a flame war - which you did - and I know name calling doesn't hurt your feelings. I called you names to show that I'm not all that serious about this whole thing and also to show my opinion of you...

How is calling you an argumentative person starting a flame war? Cant you take constructive critsisim? heheheh :lol: And this wasn't a flame war. And YOU started it. Not me :)
As for me being above everyone else, I asked you directly not to mock me. I don't know if you know anything at all about harrassment laws (odds are you don't), but once someone asks you to stop something you must stop otherwise legal action can be brought against. Now, while I wouldn't do that because it's a frickin' message board, it's the same thing, and I asked Andrew to have a talk with you because, quite frankly, it's annoying as I make few posts on this board and any chance you get you take a cheap shot at me.

How was what I did a cheap shot? I didn't bring up the past. You did. I didn't call you names, You called me names. It looks to me that you tried to start a flame war. All I did was laugh at you. And I know its a "frickin message board", but why are you so insulted when someone laughs at you? Heheh :lol:
I explained why I said you were posting for the sake of posting and you WERE targeting me with your 'argumentative' comment. Everyone on the board is agrumentative; I just tend to have different points of views than everyone else...which apparently is evil!

Well, if your point of view is always different to everyone else, maybe your opinion is wrong?
I made one post and didn't mention you at all. I comment on your debating skills because you always try to sound smart but you don't make sense, and also, your arguments are set up illogically. Your debating skills DO suck. Look at this one, you're trying to be clever by saying I'm contradicting myself when I take care of the contradiction in the next sentnece and POINT OUT that I KNOW it's a contradiction...sheesh. As for the argumentative comment, it was completely unneeded, and, therefore, posted for the sake of posting. Do you understand anything that I'm typing?

I don't try to sound smart. I don't say "i have a large vocabulary but i dont like to use it". I just post my opinion and that's that. You can critisise me and yet I can't critisise you. Lol, funny stuff :lol:
Seeing as you were making fun of my uses of 'daft,' 'dolt,' and what not, it IS relevant. If you're gonna be a smartass, at least spell the word right...

Wow, I had one spelling mistake :P. But seeing you knew what I meant were you just posting that for the sake of posting? Heheh :lol:
*sigh* OK, look at the topic of the 'one last thing' paragraph. Now, move to the next one. Surprise! They're talking about the SAME thing. You ARE an asshole. I've talked to you personally on msn, and you are an asshole. When do I have the authority? Since I had the right to say 'don't mock me.' You're mocking me, not anyone else; if I was warning you when you were making fun of someone else, then yeah, you could say that, but it's different because I'm the butt of your...weird and not really funny to anyone but you....jokes.

I don't care if you call me an asshole. I've been called worse :D. You say I'm mocking you? But how? By laughing. Lol please. And you say I have an ego :lol:
And that sums it up right there. They make long arguments. They use 'big words.' But you respect them when they're just as argumentative as me. You don't respect me, hence the rude argumentative comment. The comment was, therefore, intended to start something or at least 'hurt my feelings' or something...I don't know why you did it, but I can make an accurate assumption since I know how you like to start stuff on the board (remember how you used to ask me to 'back you up' in discussions where you made comments like the one you made to me? You did shit like this all the time...).

I said I respect them yes. As for me "asking you to back me up" that is complete bullshit. You would start flames with Jae and other Laker fans, get drilled and then complain to me and I'd stick up for you and throw myself into world war 3. Remember what you want to remember, but I know that's the truth. And you wonder why I don't respect you now? lol Dickhead..
Your last comment sums it up. Andrew wants a board respectful of others, and I'm not getting the respect I deserve. I've been here for a long time, and you've been here a while as well. I'm not saying I deserve more respect than the next person, I'm just saying that I don't deserve some 18 year old who's still acting like he's 14 annoying me when I make my one or two posts a day (unless some retard is being an asshole).

So becuase i give you some simple constructive critisim that's disrespecting you? Lol Please. You're a tool. And I'm not 18 :lol:
And a quick thing on your debating skills: you DON'T know what you're doing about when it comes to debating. I do, and I can accurately criticize those skills; it's more constructive criticism than anything else. It bugs the hell out of me to have a debate like this when the other person is so ignorant that they think they're being clever and point out supposed semantic problems when they're just completely missing the point, which is exactly you are doing. Don't say "you're just acting smart again;" I've taken gobs of classes on debate and rhetoric and semantics and so on, and it's obvious you don't know a damned thing about them...

Lol just like you took a "class" on website viewing? Oh wait, you didn't, you told me yourself (back when tony and travis had a big flame war over travis' site being "too good" for what it was intended for.
Just post on the board and leave me alone (that's twice now I've asked you to stop this shit). The quality of posters has gone down, no thanks to assholes like you. I might leave the NBA board if I have to waste my time with pointless discussions because someone's ego needs a boost with a cheap stab at another board member.

For fucks sake lol. I thought you don't get bothered by whats on a message board? :lol: I was quiet, and you took a cheap shot at me and I defended myself. I didn't have any more of a go at you than what you did to me. The difference is, your ego is so massive you couldn't take it and I laughed it off.
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Postby Wall St. Peon on Mon May 19, 2003 1:44 pm

Calling someone argumentative isn't constructive criticism...why don't you learn what stuff means before you use them in a post where you're trying to look smarter than someone else?

I'm done with your stupid ass.
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Postby Stevan on Mon May 19, 2003 2:25 pm

Yeah seriously Matthew why don't you think before you open your big stupid ass mouth. Next time you call someone "argumentative" I'm going to petition for your removal.
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Postby rUsTy on Mon May 19, 2003 2:58 pm

u's 2 are worse then my mum
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