v. 1.17 update log

Discussion about NBA Live 2004.

Postby sacramentofan on Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:28 pm

seeings as alex or anyonelse never answered my question, i'll ask again -
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Hi, i have just read the posts above, it sounds absolutely brilliant what you are doing for us alexboom - much appreciated sir! (and everyone else helping out)!
My question for anyone is - i have NBAlive04 for the ps2 -(i have the pal version here in england) will i still be able to add the roster updates to my game?
I am using a max drive to upload the file/s to my memory card, will there be a max drive file for the rosters?

Any help would be much appreciated, thanks peeps, peace
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Postby f.t.w. on Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:18 am

I'll tell you this: I don't know a max drive for a pal version from a spot of tea.

Also: I smoke and smoke and smoke and smoke, and (alexboom had alluded to this) I see these fragments of sentences and sense these :cry: paranoid, paranoid thoughts.

I've got it figured out.

alex is being paid by Electronic Arts to NOT release this roster patch!!! Don't you all get it?!?!!? Haven't you guys thought about just breaking down and getting live06 or the $19.99 bargain bin live05?!?!?! We're on to you buddy...make no mistake! We're on to you...me and my sentence fragments have you pegged.
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Postby sweetboy19 on Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:45 am

alexboom,

can u send me the 1.17 - 2005/06 roster for live 2004. sentd it at adrian198619@hotmail.com. thanks bye.
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Postby Takezo on Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:16 pm

Alex, I don´t mean to hurry your work or anything, but the work is being done right?
I mean, you didn´t give up or anything right?

Thank you...

And don´t need to hurry... it´s better wait and a have an awesome patch than to make it quick and have to update it all the time...
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Postby f.t.w. on Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:52 am

on the bright side, its looking likely that alex will be able to give us an accurate 06 all-star team for the roster.
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Postby tuanskoko on Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:13 pm

be patience everyone, alexboom is givin up his free time to work on this patch and you guys should be grateful that his doin it, for those that are complaining, why dont they do there own roster patch etc...instead of pushin alexboom to rush it
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Postby f.t.w. on Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:49 am

all of my slop iz juz in da gooood fun, yo. i tink alexboom know this. anywayz, wuzup lecboom, yee yee, you know PLATAPUS!!!!! :mrgreen: :shock:
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Postby alexboom on Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:06 am

I've hit the limit of 200 created players. I think I will find enough players to delete in order to create the current missing players, but this game is really getting on my nerves. That update will be the last one, I'm enough.
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Postby too eazy on Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:01 am

hey alex delete all da players who are in the D-league and who dont get playing time for space.. if this is ur last patch make it really good thnx.. oo yeah alex how come wen i try to change to the teams for playoffs mode it wont work, and in dynasty i cant use bobcats plus after the dynasty seson da game shuts off.. do u need to reinstal da game??
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Postby alexboom on Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:49 am

you can't put Bobcats in Dynasty mode. EA Sports locked this mode in order to make sure you buy the latest version.
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Postby Takezo on Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:50 pm

Hey alex, how is it going?

I was updating the 2004 roster myself, and I had the same 200 created players problem... I just deleted chicago 96, boston 86, and the USA team...

I don´t know if the other users would mind, but maybe you could take those created players out, from the team above mentioned...

I guess I´d be easier to create the rookies and necessary players.

THat´s wut I did tough...

Pardon for the crappy english...
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Postby fatesg on Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:47 am

too eazy wrote:hey alex delete all da players who are in the D-league and who dont get playing time for space.. if this is ur last patch make it really good thnx..................

last patch? ....really alex?
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Postby alexboom on Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:52 am

Takezo wrote:I was updating the 2004 roster myself, and I had the same 200 created players problem... I just deleted chicago 96, boston 86, and the USA team...


I'm not really fan of the idea of deleting the teams Andrew created... Same goes with all these NBDLers who may have other stints in NBA... I have already 386 created players in my NBA Live 2000 roster, so why the fork did EA add a limitation in the 2004 version?


fatesg wrote:
too eazy wrote:hey alex delete all da players who are in the D-league and who dont get playing time for space.. if this is ur last patch make it really good thnx..................

last patch? ....really alex?


just don't read what's written 2 posts above :roll:

By the way, if you wanna beta test the roster update, email me (alexboom@nba-live.com).
As a counterpart, you have to provide me USEFUL feedback if you wanna see other beta versions. I'm calling useful feedback something more than "give kb8 99 ovrl hez teh beast"... Simple info like "I think that XXX is too slow, and YYY has 3pt range by the way" would be enough already :)
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Postby Takezo on Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:14 pm

Isn´t there a way to cancel this 200 created players limit... cause next year is gonna be even harder to update if there´s this limit...


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Postby tuanskoko on Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:42 pm

i say you just delete the players with under 45 ranking
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Postby DREeaZy06 on Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:31 am

jic U DIDNT GET THE EMAIL HERES MY FEEDBACK alexboom:

hey i finally got to check it out and here are just a few suggestions, i dont know how much you'll take into consideration but as you continue updating i will probably offer better ones. BTW how is the rest of the roster patch going?

A FEW SUGGESTIONS:
Dallas: Marquis Daniels- I think 62 is too low, he starts and look at his numbers this yr, if anything i think he should be higher just because you rated Van Horn a 72 (i think), and also Josh Howard could use a little increase, they are both all around players who are important to dallas. Numbers: Daniels (12.7pts,4 reb, 3 asst), Howard (14.9pts, 6.9 reb, 2 asst, 1.3 stl) oh and Josh is starting too, meanwhile look at Van Horns #s (11 pts off the bench)

Denver: Carmelo 77 but K-Mart 78??? Melo is tearing it up this year, as part of the big three (Bron, Wade, and Melo) he should be upped, his numbers- (25.3 ppg, 5 rpg, 3 apg)

Chicago: Ben Gordon is great but 72?, maybe 70 but hes almost the best player on the team and off the bench if anything up Hinrich to match

Toronto: charlie Villanueva is having a nice rookie season and the skill set includes handles,rebounds, three point shooting, and he can move for a big guy, 68 overall is decent but he FGS are low and so is his quickness and speed

Miami" wade- I think his three-pointer are to high, hes made like 3 all yr, and he is shooting it at like .103% (3-29). thats probably the weakest part of his game, he is one of the best players in the league, 89 is kinda low, 90-91 is better and you could put shaq down a little to compensate, O'neal has lost a litt bit of his dominance ( 18 ppg, 8rpg), but back to wade, he is one of the most dunking guards, if anything just cause of how many times he dunks it should go up, in general he outside shooting should be lowered and his other skills improved like ballhandling and speed. Wades number JIC (26.7 ppg, 6asst and 6rpg)
also Payton better J-Will? Williams is the starter only that he is put with a minor knee injuries, i think payton should go down a down and Jason should increase mainly 3pt shootin, handles and passing (his strengths) Jason Williams (14 ppg) and finally Udonis Haslem is the starter at Power Foward and he is only 64? i think he should be around 68 (8.8 ppg, 7.7 rpg) o and Zo, make him the defensive beast he;s been this year (10 ppg, 7.8rpg, 3.56 bpg #1 in the league in Blocks)

Lakers: Kobe 99????????????? but then again just last night he went for 62 in 3 quarters, 30 in the 3rd alone so maybe i should digress but i just dont think no one is that good lol 99 WOW

Golden State: J-Rich 70???? he is playing at an All Star level, i think his 3pt fGs should go up from 58 and his OVERALL too, his numbers (22.4 ppg, 6 rebs)

Detroit: THey have a great record, 79 and 79 for the wallaces seems right, but Billups (all star type season) and Rip should be upped from 70 and 71 respectively. Numbers (Rip- 21ppg, Billups- 18ppg, 8apg)

San Antonio: Manu should definitely be higher than a 77, maybe 79 as he is one of the better guards in the entire league, and Finley off the bench and at this stage in his career still a 77? lower that, bowen 62? maybe a lil higher just cuz they are a great team

Portland: Telfair at only 58?? maybe thats too low, atleast increase his Passing and Dribbling

New York: Ariza at 52 should be improved, hes an improving young player , Channing Frye is one of the best rooks so he should be upped too (14 ppg, 6.5 rpg), and Nate robinson is another one of their young players but i think hes way too low even if hes a rook he's averaging 8 points off the bench and has great hops for a lil guy and hes is quick/fast with nice handles, more of a scorer than a PointGuard right now

Nets: Nenad Krstic at 50 is lo, he isnt great, atleast his numbers arent, but he has a shot from about 15 ft and i think he starts too so maybe up him some, his numbers are 13 ppg and 5 rebs in 30 minutes so im sure he starts

Bucks: Comeback kid TJ Ford is playin good, he is one of the quickes and fastest guards in the L, and i think you should up him cuz his numbers are solid (13 ppg, 4 rpg, and 7 asst) he is atletic and has actually improved his shot shooting from outside with consistency and lastly Bobby Simmons is a little more atletc than u rated him, i think his speed and quicknes should go up aswell as his out side shooting



WELL THATS IT FOR NOW, HOPEFULLY THIS GETS TO YOU IN TIME AND IT IS USEFUL TO YOU, KEEP ME UPDATED ON HOW ITS GOING AND IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ABOUT MY SUGGESTIONS

BTW hows it going with the rest of the rookies, thats really the most important thing, gettin everybody CREATED and in the game, i think you could add the players by taking away the WEAK FREEAGENTS nobody picks up like those rated 40something, Just an idea cuz the game needs thos rookis like Luther HEad
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Postby ysj020212 on Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:09 pm

yao only 72?
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Postby alexboom on Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:00 pm

thanks for your feedback but one important thing: don't focus on overall ratings. The ratings system is pretty fucked up so a guy like Kobe can easily reach the 99 ovrl. I changed some of his ratings but he's still around 97. Same goes for many other players. In a general way the overall roughly defines the quality of a player (Superstar, all-star, starter, bench or role player), but never really tells his true value.

I'll check all your suggestions though, thanks for your input :)
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Postby DREeaZy06 on Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:27 am

alright, ill try to look at specific things like you said on the main page:

As a counterpart, you have to provide me useful feedback if you wanna see the next beta versions. I'm calling useful feedback something more than "give kb8 99 ovrl hez teh beast"... Simple info like "I think that XXX is too slow, and YYY has 3pt range by the way" on 3 or 4 players would be already enough.
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Postby dreich on Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:43 pm

thanks for the patch i hope you always send me an update of roster in nba live 2004 tanx :D
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Postby ysj020212 on Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:26 pm

YAO's Pass too low ,I think 60 is best
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Postby alexboom on Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:48 am

Yao's pass rating is calculated regarding to his assists per 48 min which are fairly low (1.8)
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Postby ysj020212 on Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:01 pm

SWIFT' strongly also too low
I think at least 70
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Postby RipHam23232 on Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:35 am

I just now got a chance to check out the first part of the beta, so if these have been changed since then I apologize. For the pistons, I think dale davis and lindsey hunter are rated too highly, Davis is a 12th man, and hunter wont play much when he comes back from injury due to being the third point guard. I also feel that tayshaun's rating is too low, along with Rip's and Chaunceys. Chauncey is one of the top ten or so point guards in the league, and warrants a higher rating than the low 70's he received. Maurice Evans also needs to be increased. He has shown he provides a lot of energy and solid offensive play when he is in the game, so perhaps an increase in his offensive awareness or something.
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Postby H Rock on Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:07 pm

SWIFT' strongly also too low
I think at least 70


Ya, I was a bit surprised that Swift's passing was only rated below 20. I don't think it should be as high as 70, but I think it should be increased at least by 10 or 20 rating points.
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