Tookie "I'm a changed man" Williams: DENIED

[Ruff Ryder]

You may love this country but the country doesn't love you back.

A little off topic, but I find it funny how you speak on behalf of America.

Did you see my avatar? I am the country

But yeah, I speak on behalf of anyone who I want to speak on behalf of...get it?

That would explain the reason everyone hates Americans.

[Riot]

RIH (rot in hell) Tookie

i dont think theres ever been a more spiteful and tasteless person than you, its disgusting. now you can go on and joke about stuff like that but im 100% serious about what i just said. you just sicken me.

And I think the same of you. I think a cold blooded, rotten killer should rot in hell.

[Riot]

You may love this country but the country doesn't love you back.

A little off topic, but I find it funny how you speak on behalf of America.

Did you see my avatar? I am the country

But yeah, I speak on behalf of anyone who I want to speak on behalf of...get it?

That would explain the reason everyone hates Americans.

That's why we have abouve 70 countries supporting us in the War in Iraq and the War on Terror? That's why a bunch of countries offered help after Hurricane Katrina? That's why the Iraqis thank the Americans and love their new country? Yeah...everyone hates America and Americans. Or perhaps, you are just ignorant and trying to sound nice and tough. Try again.

But this has nothing to do with foreign policy, so let's stop.

[Bang]

RIH (rot in hell) Tookie

i dont think theres ever been a more spiteful and tasteless person than you, its disgusting. now you can go on and joke about stuff like that but im 100% serious about what i just said. you just sicken me.

And I think the same of you. I think a cold blooded, rotten killer should rot in hell.

If you believe in hell, then you either believe in Christianity, Islam, Judaism or Mormon or some others...And all of those teach that it is wrong to hate even sinners and that only God can judge. So either 1. You will rot in hell or 2. None of this makes any sense at all, thus your rot in hell is invalid. Nothing against you, just the logic was sort of funny.

[cyanide]

If I remember correctly, he's not religious, and maybe you took the "rot in hell" a little too literally

[Bang]

If I remember correctly, he's not religious, and maybe you took the "rot in hell" a little too literally

Yea I know...and probably he meant it figuratively, but then if he meant it figuratively, what's the point since then there is no hell? So then that other guy shouldn't have been that offended. I think. Bleah.

[trecenters]

He's just another guy in prison along with the others in there. I don't see why we are killing this one and raising all this ruckus.

The Tax Payers might as well just support another one for awhile. We support everyone else...

I wish they woulda let him go. I see no reason to keep him in there spending more money raisen his ass or spending money on a huge ass electric bill.

His old ass aint goin down to crenshaw and gangbangin. He would probably actually do some good talking to the community of young black gang members.

Have you seen the dvd of The Game. Shows all of them young lil kids runnin around with pieces stuck in thier pants. They don't even know counciquences yet and he is a prime example what can happen to you.

I really stopped giving a shit a long time ago along with everyone else. Who cares if we bust some countrys ass over oil. Who cares about the growing crime rate. Who cares about the huge ass number of illegal aliens tax payers support and then when they do get a job its most likely you'res.

ok enuff, im getting off subject venting my anger..

[cyanide]

Yea I know...and probably he meant it figuratively, but then if he meant it figuratively, what's the point since then there is no hell? So then that other guy shouldn't have been that offended. I think. Bleah.

Maybe he did mean it figuratively, adding that even death is not enough punishment and that he deserves to suffer in the afterlife for eternity, using hell as a metaphorical example?

[paseo85]

Yeah, but is it odd that US has the most of its population prisoned, but yet we have the killing of any country. The same about our healthcare system we pay the most for healthcare and least healthy among other countries. Personally we been had as a US citzen.

[Bang]

Yea I know...and probably he meant it figuratively, but then if he meant it figuratively, what's the point since then there is no hell? So then that other guy shouldn't have been that offended. I think. Bleah.

Maybe he did mean it figuratively, adding that even death is not enough punishment and that he deserves to suffer in the afterlife for eternity, using hell as a metaphorical example?

True true. I was going to add another convoluted counter argument, but too lazy right now.

[Riot]

Pretty much Cyanide is right, he deserves to have the biggest punishment of all. Worse than death.

I don't believe in an afterlife but if there, I suppose I'll be rotting in hell with him.

[paseo85]

Check Cnn.com about the real support New Orlean victims are getting. And this link also http://www.10news.com/news/5504608/detail.html about the soldiers in Iraq.

[Riot]

Check Cnn.com about the real support New Orlean victims are getting. And this link also http://www.10news.com/news/5504608/detail.html about the soldiers in Iraq.

ARE YOU A FUCKING DUMBASS?!!?! Why do you post random shit? Post this in the politics thread! You post random crap that isn't even related to what we are talking about.

[cyanide]

Check Cnn.com about the real support New Orlean victims are getting. And this link also http://www.10news.com/news/5504608/detail.html about the soldiers in Iraq.

http://www.nbaliveforums.com/ftopic30462-100.php

This is the politics thread, post it there if you want to go against Riot, the supreme commander of the pro-Bush organization

[paseo85]

Riot we can meet where ever punk if you want a beatdown and your moma.

[Riot]

Riot we can meet where ever punk if you want a beatdown and your moma.

Can we ban this guy? This guy is the biggest tool in NLSC history. How can people be so stupid?

[paseo85]

Who started the comments ok ? I dont want to go there, but hiding behind a computer and name calling is real weak.

[The GOAT]

Riot we can meet where ever punk if you want a beatdown and your moma.

hiding behind a computer and name calling is real weak.

Nice one genious.

[paseo85]

I dont need be like anyone but myself. And Riot, I apologize but name calling isnt the solution either and who you to judge on who deserve to die or live its up to GOD isnt? Only he knows the truth.

[hipn]

W/E, Im just going to stay on topic. There's no point is killing Tookie, because he's like 0 now, and it's not like he's gonna go and become a Crip again, and go around the 'hood shooting up some Bloods or innocent people.

[J@3]

Alright no religious propoganda in this thread. Go to COOLmac's forum, he begs for forgiveness after every 11 year old virgin he takes.

Anyways as Riot said, this guy wouldn't even give the cops info on the Crips or anyone involved. So essentially he's against gangs, but won't actually do anything to stop them. Some use he was. How many kids would've even read his book.

[thaKEAF]

After reading and discussing all of this today, my thoughts on him have kinda changed. The fact that the whole trial was pretty shady and that inmates were fed information to use against him is kinda like "WTF?". I won't say that just because he didn'tgive them information on gang members means he wasn't changed. Him telling on people he was close to or associated with wouldn't do anything but bring shit on him and would put those people in the same position he was in. You never know, some of the people he didn't turn in may have changed outside because of him. But trying to tell the future generation not to get involved and trying to calm down the gangs at the time was pretty much all he could do. But then again, it all boils down to you as a person and everyone has a right to an opinion on this. I'll just leave it at RIP Tookie, innocent or not no one deserves to be told "you'll be dying in three hours".

[Riot]

It's not just about turning people in, he had a chance to make a difference. He had information on un-solved murders that the victim's families have been wanting answers to. But he refused to give in. He wouldn't give names or anything. He's going to die and he's in prison, what can they do to him? If he really was changed he wouldn't care about all the gang homies he has. If it really is about the children and the victim's, he would have given up those names and that information.

And paseo85, I'm done with you. If you want to get in an e-fight with me PM me like an e-man.

[thaKEAF]

If he turned them in they would probably end up in the same prison as him and would no doubt come after him. And then everyone on the inside would look at him as a snitch and that's a tag that you don't want.

[Riot]

I don't think you have to worry about that. He was on death row for 20 years, hell he could have turned them in yesterday yet he refused. And wasn't Tookie, for the most part, in a cell by himself?