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Postby Brave Sir Rubin on Tue May 06, 2003 12:57 pm

talk about a slow game...

Los Angeles 35, San Antonio 35

halftime..

scary...
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Postby Colin on Tue May 06, 2003 1:12 pm

Actually it's 38-35 at half for the spurs. Kevin Willis made a 3 from halfcourt
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Postby Steve04 on Tue May 06, 2003 1:13 pm

I dont see how the Lakers disrespecting their opponents is any diff. than you disrespecting them by changing their name to the Lackers :roll:
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Postby Colin on Tue May 06, 2003 2:07 pm

AAHHHHH!!!! Shaq fouled out. It wasn't a foul, and he got fouled on the way up on his shot. BS.
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Postby Brave Sir Rubin on Tue May 06, 2003 2:28 pm

Los Angeles 82, San Antonio 87

Final

shaw took the last shot...lol...

fobe had 37

shaq had 24 and 21

the rest had 10 (fisher) or much less

for the spurs...

duncan had 28 8 and 7 ( :!: )

DR had 14 and 11

ginobili had 14 6, and i dunno how many steals...

the rest 9 (bowen) or less...


YAY FOR THE SPURS!!! (Y)
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Postby Andrew on Tue May 06, 2003 2:33 pm

I dont see how the Lakers disrespecting their opponents is any diff. than you disrespecting them by changing their name to the Lackers


Pavel doesn't play in the NBA, Shaq does. When Shaq calls the Kings the Queens, more people hear about that than people hear about Pavel Rubin calling the Lakers the Lackers on an Internet message board. :wink:

Meanwhile, the boxscores say the Spurs won Game 1, though that's nothing to get worked up about no matter which side you're on - history usually repeats itself, so it wouldn't be surprising if that's the only game the Spurs win this series. Tim Duncan played the way he needs to if the Spurs are to have a chance at taking the series.

Stephen Jackson was scoreless thanks to his energy being focused on guarding Kobe, holding him to a measly 37 points - anyone else re-thinking Defensive Player of the Year? :wink:

Seriously though, that's going to be the way of the series. The Spurs won't be able to just try to slow Shaq down and contain the rest of the team - both Shaq and Kobe are going to have their way on offense. Good start by San Antonio, but potentially a meaningless victory if they don't play their best basketball.
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Postby air gordon on Tue May 06, 2003 2:55 pm

Stephen Jackson was scoreless thanks to his energy being focused on guarding Kobe, holding him to a measly 37 points


in the game i was watching, bruce bowen was guarding big country bryant most of the time.

horry is a such a dirty player- anyone see that play towards the end of the game where horry hit the admiral below the waist even after he was whistled for the foul??
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Postby Prototype on Tue May 06, 2003 3:07 pm

Yeah, I saw that. I knew Horry would do something stupid. He's the dirtiest player in the game. He flops, scratches, does cheap shots, you name it. It just goes to show how the Lakers are sore losers. Horry should've got ejected. Did you also see when Horry tried to set a screen for Kobe at the end for a 3? He fell down and tried to take Bowen down possibly thinking about injuring him by striking him in the knees where he almost tripped. Might I add how much of a complainer Kobe is...every time he goes in to draw a foul instead of earning it the right way and loses the ball via blocked, stripped, or turnover, he makes those stupid grunts to persuade the refs to make the calls his way like as if he was actually fouled. It seems as though he thinks he can't lose the ball on his own and that it's someone elses fault all the time presumably a foul defensively. That is ridiculous. I don't even wanna go to their arrogance and trash-talking habits...
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Postby Andrew on Tue May 06, 2003 3:10 pm

in the game i was watching, bruce bowen was guarding big country bryant most of the time.


My mistake. I've only seen the boxscores, I just assumed Jackson had been assigned the task. Thanks for the clarification. :)
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Postby Clinton on Tue May 06, 2003 4:08 pm

That foul on Shaq was bullshit!!! I said if the Spurs could foul him out they would win some games. More of a MVP type performance from Duncan though. Interesting to see what happens if he continues to be that aggresive.
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Postby bishibashiboy on Tue May 06, 2003 5:55 pm

Yeah I didn't think that foul on Shaq was right..
and a/b the Horry fouls..haha..man i dunno about how "dirty" that guy really is...but keep an eye out for the rest of the series...one game doesn't determine if a player is REALLY dirty or not..but it certainly was an eye opener for me.

Anyways, the Lakers really played like crap tonight. Not really indicative of how they're capable of playing. Kobe took waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many bad shots and didn't shoot a high percentage. Good D by Bowen. Gotta give credit where it's due.
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Postby Nel on Tue May 06, 2003 6:09 pm

the spurs has a chance of winning the series if ginobili plays well everygame like today and also if duncan exploits his matchup against horry. i wonder if ginobili played all 82 games of the season he might have won the rookie of the year. the guy is FEARLESS!! :wink:
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Postby Boyk on Wed May 07, 2003 1:28 am

Might I add how much of a complainer Kobe is...every time he goes in to draw a foul instead of earning it the right way and loses the ball via blocked, stripped, or turnover, he makes those stupid grunts to persuade the refs to make the calls his way like as if he was actually fouled. It seems as though he thinks he can't lose the ball on his own and that it's someone elses fault all the time presumably a foul defensively


he probably was getting fouled, he had only 2 attempts at the line.


that has to say something there
and that foul called on shaq was a load of bullshit!
so there are signs that was a bit more of home court advantage than needed
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Postby Rens on Wed May 07, 2003 2:29 am

Come on Laker fans, the Lakers get some calls against them for once and you're all over the refs...
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Postby bishibashiboy on Wed May 07, 2003 4:05 am

Dan Gadzuric wrote:Come on Laker fans, the Lakers get some calls against them for once and you're all over the refs...

True, the Lakers do get a lot of calls. But having such a large discrepancy in the number of fouls is a little odd. Especially when TD shoots more free throws than the entire Lakers team. These things happen, but hopefully it won't for the rest of the series for EITHER team.
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Postby em on Wed May 07, 2003 10:14 am

bishibashiboy wrote:True, the Lakers do get a lot of calls. But having such a large discrepancy in the number of fouls is a little odd.

a large discrepancy in the number of fouls?? wtf?
Code: Select all
Lakers
            REBOUNDS             
PLAYER POS MIN FGM-A 3GM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST PF ST TO BS PTS
DEREK FISHER G  45 3-7 2-3 2-2 0 4 4 0 3 0 2 0 10
KOBE BRYANT G  45 16-38 3-4 2-2 1 3 4 2 3 0 5 0 37
ROBERT HORRY F  39 1-6 0-3 1-2 3 11 14 2 3 0 1 2 3
DEVEAN GEORGE F  31 2-7 0-3 0-0 1 2 3 1 0 1 2 0 4
SHAQUILLE O'NEAL C  39 10-20 0-0 4-6 7 14 21 3 6 1 5 4 24
Brian Shaw   23 1-4 0-2 0-0 1 8 9 2 2 0 3 0 2
Mark Madsen   13 1-2 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 5 0 1 0 2
Samaki Walker   5 0-2 0-0 0-0 1 0 1 1 2 0 0 0 0
Kareem Rush DNP
Jannero Pargo DNP
Rick Fox DNP
Stanislav Medvedenko DNP
TOTAL  240 34-86 5-15 9-12 14 43 57 11 24 2 19 6 82
      39.5% 33.3% 75.0% Team Rebs: 5   Total TO: 19


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Spurs
            REBOUNDS             
PLAYER POS MIN FGM-A 3GM-A FTM-A OFF DEF TOT AST PF ST TO BS PTS
TONY PARKER G  34 3-10 0-1 3-5 0 3 3 1 1 1 0 0 9
STEPHEN JACKSON G  26 0-6 0-3 0-0 0 4 4 3 3 1 4 0 0
TIM DUNCAN F  44 10-22 0-0 8-14 2 6 8 7 4 0 3 3 28
BRUCE BOWEN F  40 3-8 2-5 0-0 1 5 6 3 2 1 0 2 8
DAVID ROBINSON C  30 5-10 0-0 4-6 3 8 11 0 3 0 2 1 14
Emanuel Ginobili   30 4-9 3-3 4-8 2 4 6 2 0 4 1 0 15
Malik Rose   15 2-6 0-0 0-0 2 3 5 3 3 1 0 0 4
Speedy Claxton   14 2-6 0-0 2-2 0 0 0 0 2 1 1 0 6
Danny Ferry   5 0-2 0-1 0-0 2 0 2 0 2 0 0 0 0
Kevin Willis   2 1-1 1-1 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3
Steve Kerr DNP
Steve Smith DNP
TOTAL  240 30-80 6-14 21-35 12 33 45 19 20 9 11 6 87
      37.5% 42.9% 60.0% Team Rebs: 12   Total TO: 11

20 to 24..a differential of 4 fouls call on the 'lackers' and u call dat 'a large discrepancy in the number of fouls'??? :roll:
http://www.nba.com/games/20030505/LALSAS/boxscore.html
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Postby Boyk on Wed May 07, 2003 2:55 pm

Dan Gadzuric wrote:Come on Laker fans, the Lakers get some calls against them for once and you're all over the refs...


If your talking about the lakers-kings series last year, well ive already posted a detailed result of the amount FT's in that series in a previous post, showing a major edge to the kings.
If Kings could make there FT's they woulda won that series.

and to the guy just above me, i think he meant the amount of free throws..............Lakers 9-12 to Spurs 21-35 :roll:

almost triple the amount :roll:
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Postby air gordon on Wed May 07, 2003 4:49 pm

i wouldn't be surprised if laker players go to the line free throw line a lot more in game 2.

one game doesn't determine if a player is REALLY dirty or not..but it certainly was an eye opener for me.


in his younger days , horry could rely on his athletic ability to play good defense. but at this stage of his career, he has to resort to dirty tactics to play good defense. unless your a laker fan, it's pretty much common knowledge horry is dirty player

as for the spurs going to the free throw line a lot more then the lakers- i think the fouls that resulted the spurs going to charity stripe were legit. and some of you guys disagree on the 6th foul called on shaq. the replay with the overhead angle clearly showed o'neal pushes robinson after he misses his first shot

he probably was getting fouled, he had only 2 attempts at the line.

did you actually watch the game, laddas? in the game i was watching- big country bryant had a fair amount of perimeter shots. bowen's individual and the spurs' team defense was doing a decent job on him. in the postgame interview, bryant even admitted he was getting looks but just missed the shots he was taking
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Postby Rens on Wed May 07, 2003 6:44 pm

If your talking about the lakers-kings series last year

I'm talking about all games, not just one game or one series. The Lakers just get favoured in general, something that comes from being champions three times in a row, you get some more respect from the refs than your opponent.
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Postby Steve04 on Thu May 08, 2003 11:17 am

Hey I was cheering for the Lakers and I have to agree that there were some files not called when Bryant went to the hoop, but Bryant did not take it to the hoop consistently enough to get to the line, like the guy up there said, he was shooting jump shots alot of the game.

As for the 6th foul on Shaq, it was a foul as much as I hate to admit it, first shaq pushed off Duncan then Robinson to get the foul called, although I am not sure of the other 3 fouls called in a span of 78 seconds.

I think you will see a much much more aggressive Kobe Bryant this game and Shaq since I think they were not used to being played 1on1 and this game they will attack the hoop more, plus the Lakers need a consistent 3rd scorer and that is what was lacking last game, Fisher did not show up.
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Postby air gordon on Thu May 08, 2003 1:10 pm

60-43 spurs at the half. big country bryant has 3 fouls. bowen is playing like jaren jackson did when the spurs won their title in the strike shortened year. wonder how this one will turn out
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Postby em on Thu May 08, 2003 1:12 pm

I have to agree that there were some files not called when Bryant went to the hoop, but Bryant did not take it to the hoop consistently enough to get to the line, like the guy up there said, he was shooting jump shots alot of the game.

33 out of his 38 shot attempts were jumpshots..i cant see how u can go to the line more if 87% of ur fg attempt is jumpshots.. :roll:

its halftime and lackers down by 17..guess wut? they shot 10 ft's, spurs shot 6..lackers, jackson..stop crying for god sakes.. :roll:
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Postby Clinton on Thu May 08, 2003 1:45 pm

Well the Lakers are going to lose Game 2. The Lakers are just playing plain terrible. The Spurs can't miss, especially Bruce Bowen (WTF) who has hit a franchise record 7 three pointers. Shaq and Kobe are doing what they have to do but there is absolutely noone else doing anything. This game just shows they have to make some changes to strenghten the bench. We'll see what happens back in LA.
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Postby MVP on Thu May 08, 2003 2:05 pm

GO SPURS! BEAT LA!

Honestly, I didn't think the Spurs would take the first 2 games against LA, but they proved me wrong. I hope they continue their success and move onto the next round.
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Postby air gordon on Thu May 08, 2003 2:24 pm

it's in the books spurs defeat the lakers easily: 114-95

bowen had a monster game on offense(!) and did a pretty decent job guarding #8. manu had another solid performance.

a phil jackson coached team hasn't trailed 2-0 in a series since the '94 jordanless bulls.

as of now, all signs pointing in the direction of a kings/spurs western conference final
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