"Bible Basics"

[cyanide]

lol, relax, Indy... no need to call bullsfan a freak. He's been treating all of us with courtesy, and I'm sure he'll have your name right from now on

Jackal: You're not the only one traumatized

[Indy]

lol, relax, Indy... no need to call bullsfan a freak. He's been treating all of us with courtesy, and I'm sure he'll have your name right from now on

Ok, Bible scholar, is that better?

[Jackal]

Dammit, I was all into the idea that he was this guy named after Indiana Jones' nickname, I always imagined him having a little chinese sidekick that kept screaming "Indy, INDYYYYYYY!"...thanks for spoiling it...Isaac. Gah, that's just heart-wrenching.

[Indy]

Dammit, I was all into the idea that he was this guy named after Indiana Jones' nickname, I always imagined him having a little chinese sidekick that kept screaming "Indy, INDYYYYYYY!"...thanks for spoiling it...Isaac. Gah, that's just heart-wrenching.

Hahaha sorry Jackal

You can still pretend...

[cyanide]

Ok, Bible scholar, is that better?

Yeah, that sounds good. Or Bible student. Or simply, bullsfan

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

Issac (son of Abraham)

No no no no no no no no no no no NO NO NO NO

It is spelled Isaac. That is my name, I fucking hate when people spell it Issac. Even the bible freak here spells it Issac, its ISAAC

Oh, for crying out loud, you're normally a good guy, why do you have to behave like an idiot in this thread... ?

Just let the littl ethings go and state your opinion in a polite and respectful manner, just like bullsfan does...

[Indy]

Issac (son of Abraham)

No no no no no no no no no no no NO NO NO NO

It is spelled Isaac. That is my name, I fucking hate when people spell it Issac. Even the bible freak here spells it Issac, its ISAAC

Oh, for crying out loud, you're normally a good guy, why do you have to behave like an idiot in this thread... ?

Just let the littl ethings go and state your opinion in a polite and respectful manner, just like bullsfan does...

What? I wasn't even stating an opinion. I was explaining how to spell the name Isaac. After going through almost 19 years of my name being spelled wrong it drives me nuts. Especially when religious people do it.

[Cloudy]

To answer Cloudy's question from above, yes, it's said that Moses was the author of the first 5 books of the Old Testament (the "Torah"). But he had to have had many sources that he used to compile the books, because he obviously wasn't around "in the beginning," and also the 5th book describes Moses' death.

So Moses is also Adam & Eve's son?

[J@3]

Eww, incest.

[bullsfan009]

My bad, Indy I wasn't paying attention- that's my brother's middle name, too...i'll edit it.

So Moses is also Adam & Eve's son?

Well, technically & according to the Bible, if Adam & Eve were the first people, then everyone is a decendent of them. But Moses was generations removed from them, so it's more like a great-great-great-great (you get the picture) grandson.

And yeah, Jae, there was a lotta incest back then.

[Andreas Dahl]

"Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of this mother..."
Deuteronomy 27:22

"No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations."
Leviticus 18:6

"And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter...it is a wicked thing...."
Leviticus 20:17

Wouldn't that make every person in the world have a sin by default? Oh how wicked we are...

Just cheking: Just how in deapth would you have to go before having to post in the Bible Thread instead?

[AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy]

Wouldn't that make every person in the world have a sin by default? Oh how wicked we are...

That's why they baptise us... for teh fatherly sin to go away...

[cyanide]

Yeah, but then there's Communion, Confessions, and some other sacraments that I might not remember.. sin never goes away

[COOLmac©]

"Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of this mother..."
Deuteronomy 27:22

"No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations."
Leviticus 18:6

"And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter...it is a wicked thing...."
Leviticus 20:17

Wouldn't that make every person in the world have a sin by default? Oh how wicked we are...

Just cheking: Just how in deapth would you have to go before having to post in the Bible Thread instead?

what if i say God created poeple after adam and eve? will poeple stoned me to death

[Andreas Dahl]

It says in the Bible that Eve and Adam had three children together and that Eve was the mother of all...
And they fornicated, thus performing incest, a.k.a. a major sin.

[COOLmac©]

actually the incest commandment was late.......there was no incest sin yet after adam and eve and their children

and i still stand to the fact that after adam and eve God did create many more humans even outside the garden of eden.......which many people is still at shocked to learn about......if anyone wants to debate this topic feel free to throw it at me in the biblical debates thread

and a follow up....it was never stated they fornicated!!!! it was never mention that they slept with their children i hope you guys put up an open mind into this

[Andreas Dahl]

So you mean that since it had not been clarified by God as a sin, it doesn't count?

Also, I meant that their children had sex with each other... Not Adam and Eve had sex with their children; although the thought of that isn't too far fetched....

[bullsfan009]

Just cheking: Just how in deapth would you have to go before having to post in the Bible Thread instead?

I'd like to keep this thread about the basics of the Bible, so it'd be best to post your in-depth questions in the Bible thread. But, if you want to ask them here, I won't ignore you.


Major Characters of the Bible in Chronological Order (order of appearance): THE NEW TESTAMENT

MARY & JOSEPH (Jesus’s parents)

JESUS

JOHN THE BAPTIST (fiery preacher & prophet)

THE DISCIPLES: Simon (Called Peter), Andrew, James, John, Philip, Bartholomew, Thomas (doubting Thomas), Matthew, James (a different James), Thaddaeus, Simon, Judas (betrayed Jesus)

MARY MAGDALENE (first person to see the resurrected Jesus)

MATTHIAS (chosen to replace Judas as the 12th apostle)

STEPHEN (stoned for preaching about Jesus)

SAUL/PAUL (Pharisee who persecuted Christians, but was converted by a vision from God and became arguably the most influential and widespread missionary after Jesus’s death. He started many churches, and wrote many literary epistles (letters) to various communities and churches. 13 of these became books in the New Testament: Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 Thessalonians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, and Philemon).

[J@3]

Can I find all of this at imdb.com?

[bullsfan009]

yes, or sparknotes.com
(honestly though!)

[bullsfan009]

SELECTED TEACHINGS OF JESUS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT- part 1

Matthew 5:6
"Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled."

Matthew 5:10
"Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Matthew 5:11
"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."

Matthew 5:27-29
"You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell."

Matthew 5:38-42
"You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.’ But I tell you, Do not resist and evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go with them one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."

Matthew 5:43-48
"You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you only love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."

Matthew 6:1-4
"Be careful not to do your ‘acts of righteousness’ before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

Matthew 6:14
"For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins."

Matthew 6:19-21
"Do not store up for yourselves treasure on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, your heart will be also."

Matthew 7:1-5
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."

[COOLmac©]

So you mean that since it had not been clarified by God as a sin, it doesn't count?

Also, I meant that their children had sex with each other... Not Adam and Eve had sex with their children; although the thought of that isn't too far fetched....

well basically yeah.it is just like saying in NBA, during the time when the shot clock wasn't yet introduced there should be no shot clock violation? at first maybe (this is my opinion okay?) God thought that man can live with their brother's and sister's but science now proves that it can caused genetic abnormality and it is not healthy, and God said that man should keep away from incest...i find nothing wrong with the first few poeple on earth that have committed so....the rules hasn't been sent yet....as i have said God is a righteous and justice God......so don't you think he can have considerations?

mr.bullsfan great research my friend.......especially on mathias.....don't you know that 70% of todays pastors and religious leaders when asked who replaced Judas as an apostle, they all answered PAUL........such fools and ignorance of the bible

[bullsfan009]

You shouldn't call them fools, COOLmac, remember Jesus preached about that...so far as we know, they are only ignorant of that one fact...which is nevertheless suprising.


SELECTED TEACHINGS OF JESUS FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT, part 2

Matthew 7:13-14
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow is the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Matthew 7:24-27
There fore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.

Matthew 9:12-13
It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.

Matthew 10:16
I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.

Matthew 10:28
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Matthew 10: 34-36
Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have to come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law- a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.

Matthew 11:28-30
Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.

Matthew 12:11-12
If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.

[J@3]

Matthew 7:13-14
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow is the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Hmm... I should build a gate. To keep the dogs in, and such.

I like how he talks about Black Sabbath too Very educational. At least this thread isn't completely intolerable like the Bible Thread.

[bullsfan009]

Jae- why do you mock others' beliefs? If you feel I'm wrong, then it'd be better for everyone if you gave some reasons instead of sarcasm. You may not believe that Jesus was anything more than just another man who lived and died a long time ago, but the wisdom of many of his words cannot be denied, IMO...