[=050415=][=Real GamePlay Patch=][=RealNBA v0.2 by Shuihan=]

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[=050415=][=Real GamePlay Patch=][=RealNBA v0.2 by Shuihan=]

Postby shuihan0421 on Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:30 am

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20050415 15:14 update the preview:
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20050415 12:11 update download URL:
http://www.ali213.net/3f/RealNBA_v0.2_build0414_by_Shuihan.exe
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i'm sorry.
i'm chinese and i make a patch. because my english is poor, i don't know which forum to post this patch, so i post it here.
it'll bring your a real game, and it support both VS computer and Play Online.
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a brief English Readme:

1. copy the patch to "My Documents\NBA live 2005" and run.

2. run the game,when come to the MainMenu(just list Play Now, Play Online and so on),press alt+tab come to the desktop and then click the button "Start Patching" on the patch.

3. then alt+tab to the game and then start a match, and the match will be a real game until you close the patch.

4. if you want to play online while using the patch, make sure your rival using it too. only A or only B use the patch, the online match will be quit forcibly. both A and B use the patch and start a online match, then the match will be a real game.

5. if you open the game and the patch, when you close one of them, you must close the other one, and then jump to step 2.
5.1. for example, it 's bad like this --> run the game and the patch, then close the game, keep the patch running and run the game again, then "Start Patching" again... <-- it 's bad like this
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a detailed Chinese Readme

【补丁名称】RealNBA v0.2 build0414 by Shuihan
【发布日期】2005年4月14日
【作者】游侠网 水寒
【主页】http://www.ali213.net
【文件大小】28k (非压缩包,仅一可执行程序,绿色软件)
【相关说明】
这个补丁是用来改进NBA Live 2005的比赛真实性的。
重要的是,它不但支持单机方面自娱自乐的比赛真实性修正,而且支持联机模式!
众所周知由于联机状态下游戏不受主机和客机的设置影响,仅提供单节时间、速度、受伤和体力等少数基本选项,因此联机状态下一些不合常理的打法如强力后卫连续转身突破灌等,使得追求向现实比赛趋近的态度的玩家有点郁闷。本补丁可以让您体验到更真实的单机和联机的比赛环境。
注意:
1、联机模式下要生效,必须双方在联机的同时也都运行着补丁,否则进入游戏后将被强制断线,这是为了防止一方开启真实性补丁而另一方不适应造成的变相作弊,在双方都认同的情况下,均开启补丁并联机即可。
2、标准执行步骤:
2.1、将补丁复制到 “我的文档\NBA LIVE 2005” 目录下,双击执行补丁。
2.2、执行游戏(可直接执行游戏,也可通过浩方平台执行游戏),进入游戏主界面(即第一个主菜单)后按 alt+tab 切换回桌面,单击补丁上的“Start Patching”按钮让补丁生效,期间可随时按“Stop Patching”按钮中断补丁生效或“Start Patching”按钮继续补丁生效。
2.3、单机模式下此时即可开始比赛。联机模式下双方各自完成2.2步骤让补丁生效后,即可开始联机比赛。
3、当游戏和补丁均启动后,如有一方关闭,即游戏退出(不是退出比赛,而是游戏主程序关闭)或关闭补丁程序,而又打算让补丁生效的话,另一方也强烈建议关闭,而后回到步骤2.2。下面这样是不行的:“启动游戏和补丁,让补丁生效,玩了一两盘单机的,突然想和朋友联,于是关闭游戏但是没有关闭补丁,打开浩方启动游戏,再按补丁的生效按钮……”注意引号内的上述操作是不推荐的,有可能造成错误。
4、未尽事宜可跟帖发问,相关建议和意见包括错误反馈也请跟帖说明。

在单机方面,通过全程监控接管比赛的后台环境,修正了一些不合实际但是在缺省状况下又很有效的打法,例如之前说过的强力后卫连续转身灌,具体的真实性效果请试试看就了解了。
在联机方面,大家都知道2005相对2004而言,主机建游戏时不仅可调项变少了(例如04里面还可以调整冲撞尺度、投篮犯规尺度等),而且客机连接时是看不到主机建立的具体三项数据的(04时可以看到,不满意的话可以发言和主机商量更改,05简直是历史的倒退),我在浩方上面进别人的机器,经常都是那种全场速度爆快(估计Game Speed超过80),又没体力限制的主机,对方就是控制一个强力后卫以飞快的速度转进内线轰地灌篮……这就使我萌生了制作一个补丁的想法。
在双方都使用这个补丁的情况下,双方联机,无论主机方面建立时如何设置那三项数据,比如速度100,受伤0,体力0等,补丁将采用速度50,受伤50,体力50的参数(这个参数同时也是现在竞技联盟的规则)接管比赛的后台。换句话说,主机通过调整这3项数据造成客机看不到不知情的情况下连接进入,而后不适应的黑盒状况被打破了。
而且之前也说过,单方面开启补丁,进入比赛后会被强制断线的,因此只有在双方都认可的情况下,均开启补丁,联机就自然会保证在确确实实是50 50 50的环境下进行。主机偷偷调整更有利于自己的参数(例如喜欢用强主力狂打内线又不会用替补的,私下将受伤调整成0等),欺负你客机看不到,双方都开补丁,这种把戏就玩不成了。或者主机和客机商量了都使用补丁,然后主机为了能修改上述参数故意不开补丁,而客机开了,这时进入比赛会被强制断线,所以这个补丁是基于在对双方的公平性上建设的。
当然这并不是补丁最重要的效果,最重要的是上面所说的,建主机时除了少数可调项外,其余均由游戏内核固化,因此形成比赛的实际效果与现实有较大出入,例如强力后卫的转身很容易,强力中锋的盖帽很霸道,以及双方的4个电脑球员的防守很弱智等,补丁可以修正这些方面,使比赛的真实性得到明显增强。具体的还请试用,有些感觉只能靠自己去体验,我在这边说来说去也说不清楚的。
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i'm sorry that this forum have not the upload function, or i don't have the purview? there is the url to download it:
http://www.ali213.net/3f/RealNBA_v0.2_build0414_by_Shuihan.exe
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Postby Strike Freedom on Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:22 pm

按了第一個網址..變成..
对不起,您所在的用户组〔游客〕无法进行此操作。

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你是說 這使游戲變得比較實際 對吧
也就是不會太誇張 類似的嗎??
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Postby COOLmac© on Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:31 pm

guys i think these belong to the announcement section......and to mr.SO kindly tell your friend in chinese that he can PM andrew if he wants his patch to be uploaded to the file server...thank you more power to my fellow chinese nation (Y)
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Postby Homeboy478 on Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:20 pm

could somebody please explain what this does :D
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Postby 8-Hype on Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:48 pm

Homeboy478 wrote:could somebody please explain what this does :D


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Postby shuihan0421 on Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:58 pm

SO wrote:按了第一個網址..變成..
对不起,您所在的用户组〔游客〕无法进行此操作。

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你是說 這使游戲變得比較實際 對吧
也就是不會太誇張 類似的嗎??
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很高兴在这边遇到使用中文的朋友。

这个问题是我的疏忽,我先前在中国国内最大的单机游戏论坛Netshow和国内权威NBA游戏论坛NBAgo发布了这个补丁,主题上的两个帖子就是我所发布的补丁在论坛上的下载地址。

但是我疏忽了要下载必须是论坛的注册用户才行。您所遇到的问题是因为您没有注册所以无法下载。

这个补丁的确会让游戏变得更加实际,更加趋近于真实比赛。具体的说明请参考我在主题上面发的中文详细说明,如果您不适应简体字的话请跟我说一声,我转化成繁体版的说明给您。

另外我将尽快更新下载地址。您可以通过MSN和我联系,我直接发给您。
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Postby shuihan0421 on Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:28 pm

COOLmac© wrote:guys i think these belong to the announcement section......and to mr.SO kindly tell your friend in chinese that he can PM andrew if he wants his patch to be uploaded to the file server...thank you more power to my fellow chinese nation (Y)



thank you for your reply.
i update the download URL and would you please test it?
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Postby shuihan0421 on Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:32 pm

Homeboy478 wrote:could somebody please explain what this does :D



5555 >_<...

my english is so poor and i can only explain that it will bring your A REAL NBA LIVE GAME.
i updated the download URL.download and test it then you will know what this does.
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Postby babouisi on Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:43 pm

I tested it... and I don't know what the patch does (made a google translation of the readme file from Chinese to English and it didn't help much).

When I started a game, gameplay settings were different from mine, so I think this patch temporally overwrite the settings in some way. I found game speed was set at 50, which is generally accepted as too fast; field goals were set at 50 for both user and CPU; and user pro-hop is set at 0. I didn't get a real gameplay (way too fast; too high FG% for both teams; too difficult to drive inside the paint...)

So shuihan please can you explain what exactly this patch does/modify? Is a particular settings combo needed or the patch set them automatically?
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Postby Strike Freedom on Fri Apr 15, 2005 8:26 pm

He was saying that.. the patch is to make the game more realistic.
Like Andrew's sliders, but he created the patch.
But without registering, you won't be able to download the patches. :lol:
it works for single mode and multiplayer mode.

shuihan0421: 我看的懂簡體字啦! (i can read simplied chinese, no worries! (Y) )
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Postby shuihan0421 on Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:27 pm

SO wrote:He was saying that.. the patch is to make the game more realistic.
Like Andrew's sliders, but he created the patch.
But without registering, you won't be able to download the patches. :lol:
it works for single mode and multiplayer mode.

shuihan0421: 我看的懂簡體字啦! (i can read simplied chinese, no worries! (Y) )



i have updated the download URL, now you can download the patch without registering.

你可以阅读简体中文那是再好不过的事情了,我的英文很差,你能不能帮我做一份英文版的说明?

另外你可以看到,现在补丁执行时的一些出错提示例如“请先运行游戏”等都是同时提供中英文双语提示的,中文方面我有自信,英文方面应该有不少语法错误,你能不能帮我指出一些错误?谢谢了。
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Postby babouisi on Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:40 pm

So, this patch is only a custom sliders combination which overrides yours just by running the patch before play. I can't see the difficulty on explaining this.

And I can't see what else gives this patch besides the customized sliders, which btw could be posted in the appropiate thread.
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Postby shuihan0421 on Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:22 pm

babouisi wrote:I tested it... and I don't know what the patch does (made a google translation of the readme file from Chinese to English and it didn't help much).

When I started a game, gameplay settings were different from mine, so I think this patch temporally overwrite the settings in some way. I found game speed was set at 50, which is generally accepted as too fast; field goals were set at 50 for both user and CPU; and user pro-hop is set at 0. I didn't get a real gameplay (way too fast; too high FG% for both teams; too difficult to drive inside the paint...)

So shuihan please can you explain what exactly this patch does/modify? Is a particular settings combo needed or the patch set them automatically?



hi,thank you for your test.
yes, this patch set the settings automatically.
i use 5 teams to play two seasons(8x games/season) and a playoff(7-7-7-7) and adjust the settings, 5 Minutes, Superstar.

speed=50 seem too fast, i see.
i know the normal "speed" of the game is 50, and the "speed" of Andrew's Sliders is 36.
i think the "speed" may be set in 40-45, that is best.
in China, most of the NBALiveplayers play NBA2005 on the fast "speed", like 50-60, even 70+, and there is a Online league matches of NBA Live 2005 in China, it prescribe the RULE "speed = 50", then i choose this value.

about field goals, normal percent of the game is 50, and the percent of Andrew's Sliders is 50, too. for both user and CPU.
is it too high? when you play as single mode, because this patch boost up the Computer's defence ability, though the percent is 50 for user, you can't get a high FG% easily in SUPERSTAR.
on the other hand, many people said that SUPERSTAR is easy to win, so i think the percent for CPU should not be reduce, or the SUPERSTAR is very very easy to win... then i choose this value.
i propose you using the patch and play a match with computer, 5 Minutes, Superstar, and then you could see the FG% of you and CPU when match over.

about pro-hop...mmmm...in NBA2004 the pro-hop is very useful, just like a bug, so in NBA2005, EA restrict it. the normal "pro-hop" of the game is 0, and the "pro-hop" of Andrew's Sliders is 30.
in NBA2005, the freestyle and the crossover(go round and round) are very userul, instead of the pro-hop. especially the crossover(go round and round), like a new bug...so crossover is easy without use pro-hop, then i choose the normal value.

again, my english is very poor, beg your pardon... >_<...
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Postby shuihan0421 on Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:37 pm

babouisi wrote:So, this patch is only a custom sliders combination which overrides yours just by running the patch before play. I can't see the difficulty on explaining this.

And I can't see what else gives this patch besides the customized sliders, which btw could be posted in the appropiate thread.



i don't think so.

yes, if you only play on single more. this patch is only a custom sliders for you. maybe you don't like it, i'm very sorry.

now, if you play Online. you know that when you create a game, you can only choose the "Speed" "Fatigue" "Injury" of the settings, the others are changeless, they will be the NORMAL VALUE of the game.

this patch is effective not only on single more but also on multi-players more. i don't believe the settings patched are best, because it is difficult to cater for all tastes. but, i believe the settings patched are better then the NORMAL VALUE when you play online, about realistic.
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Postby Strike Freedom on Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:43 pm

其實 你不用說自己英文爛啦
他們不在乎的
只要有重點就行了..
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Postby frank2730 on Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:27 am

SO wrote:其實 你不用說自己英文爛啦
他們不在乎的
只要有重點就行了..
汝中國仔乎 台灣人乎~~~~~~~~~
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Postby Jayborne23 on Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:58 pm

汝中國仔乎說自 點就行只 能帮我 我先前 在中国机游戏国内最 大的单 英文方面应该有不少语
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Postby Jayborne23 on Sat Apr 16, 2005 3:06 pm

如此基本这补丁提供我自己这西班牙语言对这年这猴子? _ 姚 有许多名字。_ 感谢你非常为这patfch 和我将尝试它在家小男孩迈克尔杰克逊是。_ 我诚实认为机器将接管亚洲和巨型计算机将跑通过这大陆。 为最有价值球员! _
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Postby shuihan0421 on Sun Apr 17, 2005 12:46 am

Jayborne23 wrote:如此基本这补丁提供我自己这西班牙语言对这年这猴子? _ 姚 有许多名字。_ 感谢你非常为这patfch 和我将尝试它在家小男孩迈克尔杰克逊是。_ 我诚实认为机器将接管亚洲和巨型计算机将跑通过这大陆。 为最有价值球员! _



不好意思,我看不懂您要表达的意思。
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Postby Andreas Dahl on Sun Apr 17, 2005 1:37 am

Please speak in English...


I'm sure people will find this small program usefull shuihan0421 (y)
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Postby 8-Hype on Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:32 am

Andreas Dahl wrote:Please speak in English...


That's clear instructions = he doesn't speak Chinese. :cool:
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Postby Jayborne23 on Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:39 am

shuihan0421 wrote:
Jayborne23 wrote:如此基本这补丁提供我自己这西班牙语言对这年这猴子? _ 姚 有许多名字。_ 感谢你非常为这patfch 和我将尝试它在家小男孩迈克尔杰克逊是。_ 我诚实认为机器将接管亚洲和巨型计算机将跑通过这大陆。 为最有价值球员! _



不好意思,我看不懂您要表达的意思。


What are you embarrased about?
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Postby idiot on Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:47 am

Jayborne23 wrote:What are you embarrased about?

lol translators aren't always going to work you know
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Postby shuihan0421 on Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:05 am

Andreas Dahl wrote:Please speak in English...

I'm sure people will find this small program usefull shuihan0421 (y)



many thanx.
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Postby shuihan0421 on Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:07 am

Jayborne23 wrote:
shuihan0421 wrote:
Jayborne23 wrote:如此基本这补丁提供我自己这西班牙语言对这年这猴子? _ 姚 有许多名字。_ 感谢你非常为这patfch 和我将尝试它在家小男孩迈克尔杰克逊是。_ 我诚实认为机器将接管亚洲和巨型计算机将跑通过这大陆。 为最有价值球员! _


不好意思,我看不懂您要表达的意思。


What are you embarrased about?



oh....i don't know what your mean when you use Chinese above.
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