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Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:07 am
IndyPacers67 wrote:wisdom_kid wrote:WTF??? Gay people are born that way....??? I thought bisexuals were. Anyway gay guys work at clothing stores (female clothing stores)
you are born with a certain sexuality, and thats it!
there have been scientific studies proving it. and i know tons and tons of gay people who never chose to be gay, and knew they were gay when they were 7 or 8.
how are you 7 or 8 and know that your gay?
do 7 and 8 year olds even know what gay is?
Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:13 am
IndyPacers67 wrote:joe buddah...
i dont even know where to start...
first of all have you ever even had a conversation with a gay person before?
gay people are born that way, and most of them grow up not wanting to be gay but its just there genetics, and they cant help it. hating a gay person because they are gay is the same thing as being a racist.
i think its disgusting when people say that they hate gays, you are completley narrow minded! how could you even argue that you arent?
THANK YOU!! Finally someone making sense in here!!

Mazzocchi wrote:IndyPacers67 wrote:wisdom_kid wrote:WTF??? Gay people are born that way....??? I thought bisexuals were. Anyway gay guys work at clothing stores (female clothing stores)
you are born with a certain sexuality, and thats it!
there have been scientific studies proving it. and i know tons and tons of gay people who never chose to be gay, and knew they were gay when they were 7 or 8.
how are you 7 or 8 and know that your gay?
do 7 and 8 year olds even know what gay is?
When you are that age you do not handle concepts like "gay" or "sexuality", but a boy may feel atraction towards an individual of his own sex, and when he is older he may realize his reality.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:14 am
Jona2112 wrote:I don't think
I agree.
It's a bad idea just to HATE a group of people because they're different from you
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Fuck it, I really dont give a shit, they dont need to give a reason as to why they're gay, so why should I give a reason as to why I "HATE" them, I do have many valid reasons I just dont care enough to debate with you.
It's not that I'm naive, it's that you're a bigot with gay people.
What is "it" exactly? Hell yeah im a bigot, Im one of them guys that likes to stick his penis inside a vagina and I'll be sticking with like minded people.
IndyPacers67 wrote:they were gay when they were 7 or 8.
So...Not 6 or 9, definitely 7 or 8, ok

. Thanks for sharing all your wisdom on the subject, Im sure we're all enlightened by your comments.
tons and tons of gay people
Do gay people tend to be fat, I guess so
there have been scientific studies proving it
Oh well then, it must be true...the white coats can have my vote anyday.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:30 am
JºeBuddha wrote:Jona2112 wrote:I don't think
I agree.
Oh, that's pretty clever. How many hours did you take to realize you could alter past messages and make them look like the poster said something he did not???
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It's a bad idea just to HATE a group of people because they're different from you
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Fuck it, I really dont give a shit, they dont need to give a reason as to why they're gay, so why should I give a reason as to why I "HATE" them, I do have many valid reasons I just dont care enough to debate with you.
"If those people don't need a reason for being gay, then I don't need one for hating them.

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Well, boo fucking whoo.
I don't know what it takes for you to understand that homosexuals don't CHOOSE to be the way they are, just like IndyPacers said. ^^^^^
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It's not that I'm naive, it's that you're a bigot with gay people.
What is "it" exactly? Hell yeah im a bigot, Im one of them guys that likes to stick his penis inside a vagina and I'll be sticking with like minded people.
Hhhmmm, OK...
Good luck with that....
Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:12 am
So...Not 6 or 9, definitely 7 or 8, ok . Thanks for sharing all your wisdom on the subject, Im sure we're all enlightened by your comments.
that has got to be the stupidist comment i have ever read in my entire life... i cant believe you would be so fucking stupid.
Do gay people tend to be fat, I guess so
good one, nice job refuting my argument with a stupid picky comment.
and you didnt answer my question, have you ever even talked to a gay individual before?
and dont lie and say you have if you havent just to try to validate your idiotic statement.
Oh well then, it must be true...the white coats can have my vote anyday.
yeah, your right. i guess the world is flat, and things fall on the ground because they want to rest.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:58 am
IndyPacers67 wrote:i guess the world is flat, and things fall on the ground because they want to rest.
Wow, you are so stupid.
The earth is a globe and there is a thing called GRAVITY. Open up a book for christ sakes.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:05 pm
IndyPacers67 wrote:gay people are born that way, and most of them grow up not wanting to be gay but its just there genetics, and they cant help it. hating a gay person because they are gay is the same thing as being a racist.
i think its disgusting when people say that they hate gays, you are completley narrow minded! how could you even argue that you arent?
My girlfriend took a gender and sexuality course, and she had to read a bunch of books, and it's not that people are born that way, but rather they are conditioned at an early age. For example, if you were a female and you acted like a tomboy when you were a kid - this does play a role in your future growth. Now, that tomboy experience could phase out, or play a direct role into attraction of the same sex. Gender is defined as male or female, but as human beings, both genders can be physically or emotionally attracted to the same or opposite sex. It depends on how they are conditioned psychologically. Even emotional trauma with the opposite sex could veer them toward homosexuality where mutual feelings make the relationship content.
My girlfriend has a gay and a lesbian friend, and they're very nice people and they are normal like everybody else, except they are content in being attracted to the same sex. I think it's unfair to hate gays and lesbians when all they want is love, despite the fact that it might not be a person that's the opposite gender. It would be easier if they were straight, but you know, sometimes they can't help that.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:18 pm
SOME gays are like that, they are conditioned.
but most gays are born gay, there is a difference in the brain wave pattern.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:21 pm
Can you back that up with sources? I really believe that every person's sexuality is conditioned through early age.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:29 pm
cyanide wrote:My girlfriend has a gay and a lesbian friend, and they're very nice people and they are normal like everybody else, except they are content in being attracted to the same sex. I think it's unfair to hate gays and lesbians when all they want is love, despite the fact that it might not be a person that's the opposite gender. It would be easier if they were straight, but you know, sometimes they can't help that.
That is enlightening Cyanide.
Thanks for the objective and serious approach to the subject.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 12:34 pm
cyanide wrote:Can you back that up with sources? I really believe that every person's sexuality is conditioned through early age.
http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2003/10/03/4
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=35176
Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:14 pm
Najira wrote:isnt Tasmania an island full of homo's...maybe u should stop allowing Tasmanian's to come to the main land....

Incest dude. Not homo's.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:49 pm
man
THERE IS NO FREAKING GENES PEOPLE ARE BORN WITH THAT MAKES THEM "GAY"
It's how you grow up and the envorinment your in. Until theres some proof of this, I don't think anyone is "Born Gay."
If you grow up around gay people, you probably might turn gay.
If your a girl and you grow up around 10 boys, you might turn lesbian because you hear all those boys talking about girls and stuff. Show me the scientific facts that makes a person gay and I will believe it then. Till then, your born with the decision to be straight, bi, or homosexual.
and about all girls born with lesbian tendancies..thats difficult to judge, because girls are completely different from boys. In my psychology class, many of those studies were taken by men, and now they finding out that women have different results than men did in a whole buncha tests.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:55 pm
tell that to all the gay people who grew up with impossible lives, because they had to hide their identity from their family, their friends, everybody.
tell that to the people who fought against it to try to be straight, before finally coming to the grips that homosexuality was just who they were.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:10 pm
IndyPacers67 wrote:tell that to all the gay people who grew up with impossible lives, because they had to hide their identity from their family, their friends, everybody.
tell that to the people who fought against it to try to be straight, before finally coming to the grips that homosexuality was just who they were.
This can work either way: Being born gay, or being conditioned to be gay at an early age, even if they do not realize it is happening.
Like Amphatoast said, "It's how you grow up and the environment you're in." That's what I mean by being conditioned gay.
I looked at the studies that point to "being born gay," but there's equally compelling evidence that childhood factors, as well as influence, affect sexual orientation. I know that there's two sides in the argument with this, and it's probably pointless to throw barbs whether one is gay through birth, or through conditioning. What matters though, is that gays are human beings, and deserve respect despite how society and religion look down upon the "immoral" practice.
Edit: In the two articles that Riot proposed, both state that their position is that being gay is hard-wired in the brain, instead of a choice. The argument I'm making is that, there was no choice to begin with, because how they are raised in childhood affects their sexuality. There was no mention of that in either one.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:54 pm
that makes sense
except what about the people who grew up in anti-gay homes and turned out gay?
Tue Feb 15, 2005 2:58 pm
agree
Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:14 pm
My friend who took some weird class said being gay is a chemical inbalance in the brain, and that it is conformed and made when you are inside your mother...therefore before birth.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:37 pm
Wow, homophobes'r'us

just kidding... I've known a fair few gay people (my best friends brother is a very social gay person, thus knowing lots of homo's) I've got no problem with the large majority of them. In fact, they're extremely nice people and I liked talking to some of them. Not all of them are like this, in fact there are alot of them that are complete dickheads. I've got no probs with gay people, or people who hate gay people. The only people I have a problem with are the ones who attack gay people just because they are gay. I mean you're welcome to disagree with the way they live, but is that justification for actually physically harming someone?
Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:39 pm
Wow, homophobes'r'us just kidding... I've known a fair few gay people (my best friends brother is a very social gay person, thus knowing lots of homo's) I've got no problem with the large majority of them. In fact, they're extremely nice people and I liked talking to some of them.
agree but some gays i know are really agressive. cant they be atleast thankful enough they are already accepted. they dont have to abuse that you know.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:56 pm
K0be4mvp wrote:thats so sickening to see a guy with boobs or a girl with a dick
Wha??? You said that like its not the first time you saw a chick with a dick.
no one has money here to change their sexuality......and Im not some sicko to go look at women with dicks.....how the fuck do u want me to spell it out to you.......
thats so sickening to see a guy with boobs or a girl with a dick, its horrible....its so disgusting I think we should burn them all and feed them to Satan and then let Satan spit them out
is that enuff "I hate it alot" for u?
Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:12 pm
i think sex change is the work of satan too. but its there own choice. if they think they're right who cares.
Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:36 pm
cool. i'm doing a theology paper on homosexuality and i'm getting a lot of people's opinions...
personally i don't mind gay people. there ok. although i get annoyed by some because they are annoying not because of their sexual preference. so in a sense, i don't like annoying people (i guess every does)
Jae wrote:The only people I have a problem with are the ones who attack gay people just because they are gay. I mean you're welcome to disagree with the way they live, but is that justification for actually physically harming someone?
same here
Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:54 pm
SOME gays are like that, they are conditioned.
but most gays are born gay, there is a difference in the brain wave pattern.
sorry buddy saying that people are pre programmed gay is a bunch of toss. It doesn't matter how much sources you have from whomever. For every scientist that tells you that your pre programmed theres a scientist that tells ya it's not true. That's the way of science, it's a lot of biased studies with agendas. Even molecular theories vary from scientist to scientist...in summary DONT BRING SCIENCE INTO THIS
Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:57 pm
all girls have lesbian tendencies....yeah, I agree to that to a point....not all girls are like that, some are like most guys and don't want to get physical with the same sex....but I think girls who are comfortable with themselves, their bodies and their sexuality don't mind exploring or taunting their lesbian tendencies....
as for gay guys....as long as they don't hit on me (it's happened a couple of times now) then I'm fine with them....I actually had a mate in NZ who I didn't know was gay until one day a mate was talking about it....he was just a normal bloke and you wouldn't know it unless you were looking for it, and besides he never hit on me or any other mates so I got no problem with him....
as for lesbians, I know a couple of them....one of them is a lesbian and no bi I'm pretty sure but wouldn't mind it if you know what I mean, the old menage or toire (sp?)....
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