Online gaming is horrible

[TMACool]

i have a game with an ass hole who would stay on the other side while playing defense if my player got block in the other end or miss shots he would pass a long pass ad boom easy score for the guy waiting and the other end. but lo i won. cant believe i will lose to 4 against five. hehehhe

[gut]

after having the big disappointment from Live 2004's online game, I'd never tried a single online game for 2005.

BTW, during 2004, I used to play the no-ranked games and host most of the game.
Since I use the NLSC roster and will not cheat on any team's (or player's)rating.
in addition, I select my team randomly unless the team is too unfamiliar (since I have to use the direct-pass / direct-switch button).

[Guest]

Can somebody tell me if "Mrpain34" is still around. Him & I used to play for 4-5 hours every night back when Live 2003 was out, played him abit with 2004, but I had serious issue's with disconnections(to the point where I just stopped playing becuase I was sick of it). Anyway, if you want a straight game he used to be a good guy to play. Another guy to look out for is "Coopealoop".

Live 2003 was real fun online, 2004 was lacking and by the sound of it, so is 2005

[Sonic98]

So bombing 3's isn't fair? It's a game, not real basketball. Play the game, not what you think it should be.

If the other guy is better at NBA Live, at hitting the 3's, at blocking, at getting up and down the court, then he's better than you and not an ahole.

Sounds like the words of a cheeser. That's the main problem with EA games. It's not bout knowing anything bout the actual sport just knowing the tricks of the EA game. It has nothing to with who is better at the game and who is not. Some of the stuff takes no skill to do.
Most of the stuff is just glitches in the game. How are you better at blocking than others when the game allows pretty much anyone to block shots? YOu got skills cause you doing what the game is gonna allow anyone to do. It's one thing if the other person just isn't adjusting to something that should be easy to stop, but I find it funny when people who glitch act like they just have so much skills. Oh I'm better at the game cause I know some tricks.

I guess some of yall are the same type of people who think "if I cheat and no one catches me that's thier problem" or "if the refs are gonna let them get away from it............."

[baller status]

another easo thread... i agree, easo is horrible-i thought 04 was bad with its flaws... 05 is even worse, mainly because of the lag. if there was no lag then maybe the gameplay would be better. i only play pings with >100. It still lags, but not as bad. so far though im 5-0, and have only beaten people by like an avg of 10... compared to last years like 20. lag keeps the opposing player in the game this year... and i agree-fatigue should be turned on because its unrealistic for the starters to play a full game.

if u r having trouble with abusers of gameplay/lag try these: if he double teams the man with the ball... just find the open man; if he is lazy and plays D only with his center-offball with your center and pick/roll; try to pick a team with a good shots blockers because most of the time the abusers try fast breaking at every chance; pump fake the defense if u notice that he is playing off man when your near the basket; and dont shoot 3s unless they r wide open.

[Alcoholic]

Yeah, when I used to play EASO my opponents would have like 15+ 3 point attempts while I would have.... 6.

[mikebballin]

just pick a team with at least 4 good players like i do them assholes be cheatin like hell my rank is 386 it use to be 27 before the records started over just play d with players all they do is pick a good point guard that can dunk and shoot 3's thats all there not hard to stop once they start missing and don't worry if they win the reason is prolly cause its on all star only which pisses me off i want on superstar so its more realistic and less threes

[Sonic98]

I don't really have a problem with the double-teaming although the BS stealing needs to be fixed. I can deal with that. It's some of the other stuff they do. There are teams in NBA that do a lot of double-teaming and trapping but with the default sliders and lack of fatigue it messes up a lot of stuff.

[Guest]

Ok Ok i guess im gonna have to jump in this and show that Bombing 3's and Playing unfair means nothing.

95% of the time when you play against someone they take their Center and guard the hole, Well that leaves someone on your team open becuase they arent guarding your center or PF. Take it to your advantage.

GOOD DEFENSE:
Heres how you play good defense, Take whoever on your team is guarding their best 3pt shooter and just stay on him, guard him like its a winning Lottery Ticket. If guys cant pass to their 3pt shooter they usually try with thier less accurate shooter and fail... Outcome = Free Rebound.

FAST BREAKS:
THis is were most people screw up, THey allways go for the dunk but when they try to people run into them and they drop the ball (Block them crash into them whatever) If you can take the midrange shot then take it dont just try to dunk on them it fails allot.

PLAYING GOOD OFFENSE:
Offense is a matter of skill and opinion, But i can give you a few tips. Learn who your midrange shooters are those who have 70+ FG. If these guys get open midrange take the damn shot especially with your 3pt shooters dont just take your 3pt shooter and back up for the 3 like a moron your going to get blocked. Taking the midrange with your 3 shooter is more effective than shooting the 3.

BEATING THE DOUBLETEAM:
BAH..... If you can do all of the above things correctly all doubleteaming does to you is give you a free win becuase it leaves one of your shooters open......PERIOD!

This is all how i play and i am undefeated with the Pistons and the Rockets 393/0 so if you think this stuff doesnt work and you still wanna try and be a noob like the 3 bombers then when i see you ill crush you with REAL basketball skills. AND YES BASKETCUT WILL DESTROY YOU.

[Sonic98]

Sorry I have to disagree with you bout the 3 shooters. I have guard some shooters with my center and some how they're still able to hit 3's with guys like Barry for SA with guys all over them. PLus, constantly guarding a man yourself leaves other openings because the AI players don't switch. Also you're assuming the team only has 1 good 3-point shooter. Let's not forget this is online where fatigue is off. They're not just hitting 3's because the player is a good shooter if so we'd all be doing it. Not to mention they do actually shoot shots other than 3's sometimes. And also you're men are not always going to setup the defense fast enough to stop multiple potential shooters. Also, spin-glitching comes into play.

Aslo as it relates to the center. I guard the paint with my center or PF and it doesn't leave a whole. All you have to do is do like they do in the NBA is play a lil off your man. Close enough where no one else switches to him and far enough away that you can move back to defend the paint. Plus the CPU will probably have someone else come flying out of nowhere to defend it anyway. Not to mention to depends on the team you have. A lot of teams have big men with good mid-range jumpers or who can dribble a little, but for some reason the game has them underrated in these areas. Personally I've never had a problem with someone protecting the paint with thier big man. I never saw that as the reason I lost. Unless it happned once or twice at a critical time. The times I lost I probably didn't make use of my mid-range game enough.

As far as fast breaks I don't have a problem. Anyway should be able to tell you you're not always going to be able to get the dunk just because you have numbers. When you're not playing against the CPU with the catch-up cheat breaks aren't that bad. Sometimes you just have to know when you pull it back out. Also be looking for the pass or try the spin at the right time. Also depending on the team taking the mid-range jumper on the move may or may not be succesful. The game seems to not like for people to shoot in transition.

As for 70+ rating. I'm starting to wonder if you need to have 75+ or 80+. I have guys in the 70's who consistently miss wide open shots even though I know I'm releasing at the right time and have gone into practice with them several times. Let me get someone who is 78 and over and I don't have that problem.

On the subject of basket cut. I really don't know bout Live 05, but I know in some b-ball games in the past certain plays were kinda cheesy. Certain plays called would make the defensive AI just do weird, stupid stuff. Not saying you do it, but I have seen it before.

[John WB]

I've yet to win a game. My online opponents always run and shoot threes or throw long alley oops for the dunks. Then on defense they're always guarding my inbound pass and when I try to throw it in I end up turning it over on occasions. Whenever I get fast breaks they foul my guys going for the dunk before I can finish. And the online game play is usually so shaky I miss a lot more than I would normally. And they have fatigue off and the game speed very high.

The games I've got a big lead in, they usually end up canceling.

And they usually pick the Suns, Sonics, Rockets, or another team with a lot of good 3pt shooters.

[Guest]

I've yet to win a game. My online opponents always run and shoot threes or throw loong alleyoops for the dunks. Then on f\defense they're always guarding my inbound pass and when I try to throw it in I end up turning it over on ocassions. Whenever I get fast breaks they foul my guys going for the dunk before I can finish. And the online gameplay is usually so shakey I miss a lot more than I would normally. And they have fatigue off and the game speed very high.

The games I've got a big lead in, they usually end up cancelling.

And they usually pick the Suns, Sonics, Rockets, or another team with a lot of good 3pt shooters.

Keep looking John your just having some bad experiances. You will find some people who have fun and mostly those kind of people use different teams. Like the Bobcats or Celtics or PISTONS.

[dsigns]

I played last night and the guy I was playing was the Hornets. Rodney Rogers hit every 3 pointer no matter where he was at and who was guarding him.

[Sonic98]

I've yet to win a game. My online opponents always run and shoot threes or throw long alley oops for the dunks. Then on defense they're always guarding my inbound pass and when I try to throw it in I end up turning it over on occasions. Whenever I get fast breaks they foul my guys going for the dunk before I can finish. And the online game play is usually so shaky I miss a lot more than I would normally. And they have fatigue off and the game speed very high.

The games I've got a big lead in, they usually end up canceling.

And they usually pick the Suns, Sonics, Rockets, or another team with a lot of good 3pt shooters.

I feel what you're saying about the defense. I hate these people who always try to steal the inbound or try to do it when they need to go on a run.

You are right bout the speed and fatigue. In many b-ball games I've played over the last couple years when you turn the speed up some the game just starts acting stupid.

[WE3DMAN]

hey man thats a computer game,and player online dont have AI,so if you cannot beat other people better quit play,run to your mama

[Sonic98]

So, other people are supposed to be easier to beat than the computer?

[COOLmac©]

just accept what life has to offer you.if your ass is meant to be kick do your best atleast you got kick smilling.

i played online last year and i too have bad experiences with poeple i dont know. sometimes i get shock by the way they exploit the game. the best you can do to enjoy the game is to have a friend living miles away to play with you. atleast you guys know what to expect from each other. a compltete stranger will just ruin your day if things dont go your way.