NBA Bubble @ ESPN Wide World of Sports-Released

Brother, you are finally here. Natkra90 said that they have been contacting you. Many people hope that you can cooperate once. I am also looking forward to it. Thank you, come on, and wait.

He has reached out to me we have spoken , but for "RIGHT NOW" there will be no collaboration. I have spoken with him of my plans of finishing what I started. I did try to mix in the dorna walls art into the vibrant LED Screen / LED Rings I tried this about a week ago , I found that you lose out on both. So like I have said before its a either or not both. Now if some wants to dig into the LED animation files to see what can be done to replace with dorna wall art then that would be cool. Please contact me and i will send you those files and explain what i have discovered so far. I have been able to change most or all the LED rings art.

So when I am done , I will look back at trying to mix in dorna walls art only if they both look great. I think the best I can do is add dorna wall art with the led screens and rings is at the ends of the court behind the baskets.

But here is the biggest thing I don't want to make team specific art, I am really trying to make 1 arena for all teams. Hope I make since in my expaniation.

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Here is a my attmept to making a more detail bench with those orange gatorade stand behind each players chair. Its not prefect but I think it looks good during game play.
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this is so amazing! I didn't know socially distant seating/editing team staff was even possible. can't wait to see more developments

thanks, man, I finally got them done to a look I am happy with. Also, I replied to your dm.

Here is a my attmept to making a more detail bench with those orange gatorade stand behind each players chair. Its not prefect but I think it looks good during game play.
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I'm not sure how do you do this in 2k20 modding, but was the distancing for each bench players done through blender? Just curious.

This looks fantastic the level of detail is amazing!

Here is a my attmept to making a more detail bench with those orange gatorade stand behind each players chair. Its not prefect but I think it looks good during game play.
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I'm not sure how do you do this in 2k20 modding, but was the distancing for each bench players done through blender? Just curious.

no not in blender but i did use it for assistance . So I used blender, note++, hex.

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This looks fantastic the level of detail is amazing!

Thanks man , I have liked your work too.

man this is a GAME CHANGER looking forward to this

This looks fantastic the level of detail is amazing!

Thanks man , I have liked your work too.

Anymore progress previews?? This is an AMAZING mod. I can't express that enough. It so accurate Can't wait to try this out. Any chance for a beta release?

This looks fantastic the level of detail is amazing!

Thanks man , I have liked your work too.

Anymore progress previews?? This is an AMAZING mod. I can't express that enough. It so accurate Can't wait to try this out. Any chance for a beta release?

man this is a GAME CHANGER looking forward to this

thanks guys , yes I have been working at it to add more details and add more things . I will post a preview video tomorrow, I show all the new things that I have added.

wow great attention to detail!

knew someone would make it look really close to like it does irl but didn't think it would look this great so quickly

I'm glad you picked up on the moving bench players and media people around, not sure how many people know how simple it is but more people should know about it

Ok here this example I will try to point out a few things

ok so the ARENA.SCNE
think of this scene as a 3D graph or chart with dimensions x,y, and z
width, length, height
horizontal, vertical you get the idea

so when you translate an object you move it along an axis so say +x you add horizontally or move to the right
where right is relative to your starting point may not be what you expect but you will get the hang of it after changing around a few values - trial and error

I believe the starting point is (0,0,0) dead center at the middle of the jump ball circle on the ground

I'll just tell you I think from my memory awayShape0, awayShape1, ..., awayShape9 is the players on the bench because 15 players max so 10 on the bench while 5 are on the floor playing
awayShape0 and awayShape1 only really differ by their 3rd values
awayShape0 "Translate": [ 939.341125, 0.0, 996.92572 ]
awayShape1 "Translate": [ 938.653015, 0.0, 1053.30664 ]

The players in this arena scne are separated about 55 from each other
so 1053 + 55 = 1108 (rough calculations)
check the third player's values
awayShape2 "Translate": [ 939.341125, 0.0, 1109.72668 ]
it is about 1110 so close enough
it makes sense that all the players on the away bench sit at the same height and all in a row indicated by the first 2 values staying the same across all 3 examples above

so they all sit in a row on the bench the same side of the court as the home team right so you will see that the first 2 values relatively stay the same but now what you'll see is that third value is basically a negative value equal in magnitude to the corresponding number player from the away side so that they essentially mirror each other with the mirror being on the center court line
homeShape0 "Translate": [ 941.572937, 0.0, -989.153748 ]
homeShape1 "Translate": [ 941.572937, -0.835195005, -1045.53479 ]
homeShape2 "Translate": [ 941.572937, 0.0, -1101.91565 ]

looks about right to me

how about the home head coach where does he sit
h_headcoachShape "Translate": [ 941.572937, 13.8213081, -876.391724 ]
makes sense unless it is Phil Jackson who sits in a huge chair so that middle value might need to be like 20 or 30 for more realism
assistant coach sit between the headcoach and the first player on the bench?
hcoach0Shape1 "Translate": [ 941.572937, 13.8213081, -932.780029 ]
-876.391724 > -932.780029 > -989.153748 .... yes they do

ok but where are the other types of people on the floor
cameraman01Shape "Translate": [ -689.949219, 2.18059904e-6, -1658.28345 ]
bboy01Shape "Translate": [ 176.543335, 0.0, 1657.20483 ]
media09Shape "Translate": [ -658.678955, 23.2390003, 2060.35962 ]

just compare all these different characters/people that are on a court in the game with the numbers you see in arena.SCNE and you will be able to get an idea of the relation to each other and how far away a change in number might account for when you go to make your mod

I'll add one more thing about which direction they are facing

ok so check out these values
bboy01Shape "Rotate": [ 0.0, 3.14159274, 0.0 ]
bboy02Shape "Rotate": [ 0.0, -0.00578071224, 0.0 ]
mascotbox1_corner1Shape "Rotate": [ 0.0, 3.14159274, 0.0 ]
h_headcoachShape "Rotate": [ 0.0, -1.57079637, 0.0 ]
awayShape0 "Rotate": [ 0.0, -1.57079637, 0.0 ]
media09Shape "Rotate": [ 0.0, -3.14159274, 0.0 ]
scoretable_B_04_led_logo:media1Shape "Rotate": [ 0.0, -1.57079637, 0.0 ]

so the media guy (1) behind the scoretable the coaches and players are all facing the same way/direction -1.57079637
the bboy(1) and mascot are up on one end of the court behind the basket and they are facing the same way/direction 3.14159274
hmm 3.14 where have you seen that number yeah that is pi π so makes sense since it is a circle of ways to be rotated

wow great attention to detail!

knew someone would make it look really close to like it does irl but didn't think it would look this great so quickly

I'm glad you picked up on the moving bench players and media people around, not sure how many people know how simple it is but more people should know about it

Ok here this example I will try to point out a few things
[ Image ]
ok so the ARENA.SCNE
think of this scene as a 3D graph or chart with dimensions x,y, and z
width, length, height
horizontal, vertical you get the idea

so when you translate an object you move it along an axis so say +x you add horizontally or move to the right
where right is relative to your starting point may not be what you expect but you will get the hang of it after changing around a few values - trial and error

I believe the starting point is (0,0,0) dead center at the middle of the jump ball circle on the ground

I'll just tell you I think from my memory awayShape0, awayShape1, ..., awayShape9 is the players on the bench because 15 players max so 10 on the bench while 5 are on the floor playing
awayShape0 and awayShape1 only really differ by their 3rd values
awayShape0 "Translate": [ 939.341125, 0.0, 996.92572 ]
awayShape1 "Translate": [ 938.653015, 0.0, 1053.30664 ]

The players in this arena scne are separated about 55 from each other
so 1053 + 55 = 1108 (rough calculations)
check the third player's values
awayShape2 "Translate": [ 939.341125, 0.0, 1109.72668 ]
it is about 1110 so close enough
it makes sense that all the players on the away bench sit at the same height and all in a row indicated by the first 2 values staying the same across all 3 examples above

so they all sit in a row on the bench the same side of the court as the home team right so you will see that the first 2 values relatively stay the same but now what you'll see is that third value is basically a negative value equal in magnitude to the corresponding number player from the away side so that they essentially mirror each other with the mirror being on the center court line
homeShape0 "Translate": [ 941.572937, 0.0, -989.153748 ]
homeShape1 "Translate": [ 941.572937, -0.835195005, -1045.53479 ]
homeShape2 "Translate": [ 941.572937, 0.0, -1101.91565 ]

looks about right to me

how about the home head coach where does he sit
h_headcoachShape "Translate": [ 941.572937, 13.8213081, -876.391724 ]
makes sense unless it is Phil Jackson who sits in a huge chair so that middle value might need to be like 20 or 30 for more realism
assistant coach sit between the headcoach and the first player on the bench?
hcoach0Shape1 "Translate": [ 941.572937, 13.8213081, -932.780029 ]
-876.391724 > -932.780029 > -989.153748 .... yes they do

ok but where are the other types of people on the floor
cameraman01Shape "Translate": [ -689.949219, 2.18059904e-6, -1658.28345 ]
bboy01Shape "Translate": [ 176.543335, 0.0, 1657.20483 ]
media09Shape "Translate": [ -658.678955, 23.2390003, 2060.35962 ]

just compare all these different characters/people that are on a court in the game with the numbers you see in arena.SCNE and you will be able to get an idea of the relation to each other and how far away a change in number might account for when you go to make your mod

I'll add one more thing about which direction they are facing

ok so check out these values
bboy01Shape "Rotate": [ 0.0, 3.14159274, 0.0 ]
bboy02Shape "Rotate": [ 0.0, -0.00578071224, 0.0 ]
mascotbox1_corner1Shape "Rotate": [ 0.0, 3.14159274, 0.0 ]
h_headcoachShape "Rotate": [ 0.0, -1.57079637, 0.0 ]
awayShape0 "Rotate": [ 0.0, -1.57079637, 0.0 ]
media09Shape "Rotate": [ 0.0, -3.14159274, 0.0 ]
scoretable_B_04_led_logo:media1Shape "Rotate": [ 0.0, -1.57079637, 0.0 ]

so the media guy (1) behind the scoretable the coaches and players are all facing the same way/direction -1.57079637
the bboy(1) and mascot are up on one end of the court behind the basket and they are facing the same way/direction 3.14159274
hmm 3.14 where have you seen that number yeah that is pi π so makes sense since it is a circle of ways to be rotated

thanks, you saved me along explanation , you be surprised only 2 people asked me how i did this.

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here is small teaset of the new things added, before I posted a video tomorrow. I still need to add custom dornas and virtual fan behind the basket.

here is small teaset of the new things added, before I posted a video tomorrow. I still need to add custom dornas and virtual fan behind the basket.
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Looks great!

there would probably be a way to very efficiently place the logos and wordmarks(straight up ads now) of the home team in the spots they are on the court floor on the broadcast
and I am talking about just using logos already in game or I guess you can add new files if you really want
it might be more suitable as a roster mod if I can figure out someway to just have it work without a certain roster I might look into it

there is a few options I had in mind with some combinations of messing with floor files/roster/looyh hook
it can be done just not sure if it will be any easier to do than other ways people have been doing this with making floor mods and such

I don't personally like ads - actually hate them with a passion
The ads on the court floor aren't even there in real life they are putting them into the broadcast like a first down marker which I really hate
if you see a zoomed out shot or another camera angle and look close enough the team ads and logos aren't there

but anyway if interest is there I can try some stuff out and share a little about what I would try

there would probably be a way to very efficiently place the logos and wordmarks(straight up ads now) of the home team in the spots they are on the court floor on the broadcast
and I am talking about just using logos already in game or I guess you can add new files if you really want
it might be more suitable as a roster mod if I can figure out someway to just have it work without a certain roster I might look into it

there is a few options I had in mind with some combinations of messing with floor files/roster/looyh hook
it can be done just not sure if it will be any easier to do than other ways people have been doing this with making floor mods and such

I don't personally like ads - actually hate them with a passion
The ads on the court floor aren't even there in real life they are putting them into the broadcast like a first down marker which I really hate
if you see a zoomed out shot or another camera angle and look close enough the team ads and logos aren't there

but anyway if interest is there I can try some stuff out and share a little about what I would try

That would be cool but I would be more interested to see if we can edit the animations inside the LED Rings. Some have art but some have no corresponding art at all. Or also just make new animations or remove them and replace with art . I know you are skilled with files based on your work on cheat tables.

Some would be interested in the ads on the court but I would love to see if we can do something with aniamations.

here is small teaset of the new things added, before I posted a video tomorrow. I still need to add custom dornas and virtual fan behind the basket.
[ Image ]

great! wait for your video

here is small teaset of the new things added, before I posted a video tomorrow. I still need to add custom dornas and virtual fan behind the basket.
[ Image ]

great! wait for your video

thanks, sorry about the video, passed out last night. Have not been feeling great in the last few days. Anyways I have been able to team up with Martoluthor and he made me a hand full of virtual crowd panels (Pic Below). I will post the video tonight showing what has been done and what is left to be done.

sorry for the delay with the update video. So I show some gameplay and details this that have been added to my Bubble.

Since last update.
Fully converted bench with Gatorade area.
White broad around the court.
Fully working court side dornas w/ matching reflections
15 custom National TV presentation dornas
Virtaul Fans thanks to Martoluthor 15 Diffrent fan sets behind each basket.
Proper new ad & screen placement bebehind basket.
New Press area in Vip Box Area of the arena. With tables and Glass dividers for each.
New Cameramen and Photopghers in proper areas around the arena.
New detail arena light placement with reflection.
Roof Speakers
Removed 1st 10 rows in stands setup for camera
spotlights around the court above the LED & LCD Screens.

What I hope to get done before release (August 17):
More custom National TV presentation dornas
More Virtaul Fans
More Press
More Staff by tunnels with BLM Shirts.
Arena Lighting Mod
Camera Angel Mod

Known bugs:
Fix small bug when Pc swaps out 4 to 5 players in one large sub out. Players don't get seated and roam around the bench.

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Can you lessen the brightness of the floor? I am so hyped for this!

That would be cool but I would be more interested to see if we can edit the animations inside the LED Rings. Some have art but some have no corresponding art at all. Or also just make new animations or remove them and replace with art . I know you are skilled with files based on your work on cheat tables.

Some would be interested in the ads on the court but I would love to see if we can do something with aniamations.

what files or keywords to search and look around for are you asking about specifically? will take a look just would like to know where to narrow my search of info

sorry for the delay with the update video. So I show some gameplay and details this that have been added to my Bubble.

Since last update.
Fully converted bench with Gatorade area.
White broad around the court.
Fully working court side dornas w/ matching reflections
15 custom National TV presentation dornas
Virtaul Fans thanks to Martoluthor 15 Diffrent fan sets behind each basket.
Proper new ad & screen placement bebehind basket.
New Press area in Vip Box Area of the arena. With tables and Glass dividers for each.
New Cameramen and Photopghers in proper areas around the arena.
New detail arena light placement with reflection.
Roof Speakers
Removed 1st 10 rows in stands setup for camera
spotlights around the court above the LED & LCD Screens.

What I hope to get done before release (August 17):
More custom National TV presentation dornas
More Virtaul Fans
More Press
More Staff by tunnels with BLM Shirts.
Arena Lighting Mod
Camera Angel Mod

Known bugs:
Fix small bug when Pc swaps out 4 to 5 players in one large sub out. Players don't get seated and roam around the bench.

phpBB [video]

so perfect

That would be cool but I would be more interested to see if we can edit the animations inside the LED Rings. Some have art but some have no corresponding art at all. Or also just make new animations or remove them and replace with art . I know you are skilled with files based on your work on cheat tables.

Some would be interested in the ads on the court but I would love to see if we can do something with aniamations.

what files or keywords to search and look around for are you asking about specifically? will take a look just would like to know where to narrow my search of info

Basically any of the animation files , they are so many. But if you look a certain SCNE files like:

ribbon_team
ribbon_swish
ribbon_idle1
ribbon_idle0
ribbon_defense
cube_teamlogo

they tell what file animations to look at. I know its alot to look at but i you can figure any of them out let me know. Thes are all in the LED files , 10 teams share they same sets . They are 3 different sets with same animations. I used the the clippers as base of LED_006. If you have any questions pm me or contact me on discord (hokupguy#7323)

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sorry for the delay with the update video. So I show some gameplay and details this that have been added to my Bubble.

Since last update.
Fully converted bench with Gatorade area.
White broad around the court.
Fully working court side dornas w/ matching reflections
15 custom National TV presentation dornas
Virtaul Fans thanks to Martoluthor 15 Diffrent fan sets behind each basket.
Proper new ad & screen placement bebehind basket.
New Press area in Vip Box Area of the arena. With tables and Glass dividers for each.
New Cameramen and Photopghers in proper areas around the arena.
New detail arena light placement with reflection.
Roof Speakers
Removed 1st 10 rows in stands setup for camera
spotlights around the court above the LED & LCD Screens.

What I hope to get done before release (August 17):
More custom National TV presentation dornas
More Virtaul Fans
More Press
More Staff by tunnels with BLM Shirts.
Arena Lighting Mod
Camera Angel Mod

Known bugs:
Fix small bug when Pc swaps out 4 to 5 players in one large sub out. Players don't get seated and roam around the bench.

phpBB [video]

so perfect

thanks man

God, incredible work!!!!!
The detail level is just unbelievable!!!!
Maybe this topic has been treated already, but I didn't have time to visit NLSC past weeks.
Is there a Bubble mod for WNBA already ? At least with Wnba logo on the court ?

Thanks.

God, incredible work!!!!!
The detail level is just unbelievable!!!!
Maybe this topic has been treated already, but I didn't have time to visit NLSC past weeks.
Is there a Bubble mod for WNBA already ? At least with Wnba logo on the court ?

Thanks.

thank you, I have not heard of a bubble for WNBA or court sorry.