Things About the Ratings I Can and Can't Understand........

[SuperFlash]

I can understand why Eddy Curry Inside Scoring is higher than K-Mart's. Eddy is a much better post player.

I can't understand why Tyson Chandler is rated higher than both of them in Inside Scoring.

I can understand why Rasheed Wallace's Off Aware is 77.

I can't understand why Elden Campbell, Chris Crawford, and Raef all have rating more than or equal to his.

I can understand why V. Lenard has a better FG than M. Finley

I can't understand why Dan Dickau, Jon Barry, W. McCarthy, Lindsey Hunter, Gary, Payton, J. Pargo, Eddie House, and T. Delk all have a FG rating higher than Rip Hamilton.......

...or why his FG is only 72.

Why is Jon Barry's D. Aware is Higher than Lidnsey Hunters...... or even close.

Why is Josh Childress' D. Aware higher than Lebron's, Melo's, Josh Howard, Marquis Daniels, and Krik Hinrich.......

..... and why is Lebron's D. Aware in the 40's while Melo's is in the 60's.......

.......and why all the player's metioned before (with exception of Melo) D. Aware rating lower than 60. Hell Josh Howard and M. Daniels alone are good one on one defenders.

Why is Devin Harris so terrible. I thought he was one of those players who could jump right in and contribuite if need be.

I guess I'll have to see what EA was thinking on Monday. Maybe there some method to their Madness. Just some stuff to stir the pot.

[SA37]

What happens Monday?

I really wish the ratings came with some sort of explanation so we could figure out some of the things you were talking about.

[joslyn23]

ratings can be changed....calm down.

Grndyansty will be around to help those with ratings and edits. dont worry!

[thegreatdivide]

i cant understand how marquis daniels is rated 7 points lower than josh howard overall (60 - 67). At least they can be changed though.

[SuperFlash]

ratings can be changed....calm down.

Grndyansty will be around to help those with ratings and edits. dont worry!

Oh I know, it amazes me how far off that NBA Live's Original Ratings are. None of the other EA Sports titles come close to how subjective Live Rates player. Even in Madden its more agruementative, because thier closer to being correct. You can Argue why one player should be 2 points faster than another. But more than half of these you can even argue about.

For example: I could not debate why Elden Campbell's FG is 20 pts higher than Devin Harris's FG. And I'm a HUGH Detroit fan.

Every year we tweak the ratings a little hear and there, but it looks like this year the Roster Makers out there are going to be doing more of an overhaul than a tune up.

But, I'll say this none of what I put changes my out look on how the game will be. This year's Live looks great.

And before I forget..... Hey EA! Bring back the Reverse Layup!

[fgrep15]

Last year, Kirk Hinrich was slower than Corie Blount

This year 6'8 Athletic Boris Diaw has a 79 jump rating, but a 40 dunk rating
Devin Harris has FG and 3PT ratings in the 40's and 30's, and everyone but the stars primacies are extremely low.

Their's a likely a lot of editing to be done for this games rosters, the problem is for playing online, it makes it hard to have accurate ratigns because people complain due to those who stack teams. Or like one guy last year who made then 96 Bulls.

[EGarrett]

I couldn't help thinking while reading this thread...how funny would the reactions be if EA announced that you couldn't edit ratings this year.

[durvasa]

I couldn't help thinking while reading this thread...how funny would the reactions be if EA announced that you couldn't edit ratings this year.

"We really wanted to put that in there, but unfortunately it was one of those things that we had to leave on the cutting room floor." -- Live Development Team

I would fucking scream if that happened.

[thegreatdivide]

LOL - i think there would be a lot of people pinching themselves asking if its real or not....then comes the inevitable screams of profanity.

[hmm]

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[Silky Smooth Vlade]

If I was a PC gamer (I would be if I had a good enough computer) I would not be worried about ratings at all. There are amazing patchers out there that will edit every attribute for every player. However, as a console gamer, I wish that EA would just get the ratings right on the first try. It's tedius to have to go in and edit them all yourself. But alas, I will still probably end up doing it.

[Sauru]

oddly enough i never change the ratings in live at all. i personally always just play the game the way they shipped it even if i see something i dont like(for instance al jefferson only being a 55 overall with under 40 fg). i guess one of the main advantages to being a pc player is i could just download a edited roster and use that but i never seem to do this, always play the game the way EA intended. am i crazy?

[Silky Smooth Vlade]

oddly enough i never change the ratings in live at all. i personally always just play the game the way they shipped it even if i see something i dont like(for instance al jefferson only being a 55 overall with under 40 fg). i guess one of the main advantages to being a pc player is i could just download a edited roster and use that but i never seem to do this, always play the game the way EA intended. am i crazy?

Nah, you're not crazy at all. I can totally see where you're coming from. I always hesitate whenever I edit a player or mess with the sliders. I always think twice because I want to play the game the way EA intended, but I always end up saying "eh, screw it" and change it to my liking. I applaud your self control .

[UconnDynasty]

I trust the EA ratings... only problem is they tend to get dated. They are so largely based on last year, and as this year goes on, players will show change. Like Pippen was rated 70 last year, based on his 02 stats and the projection that he might has more chance to lead on the bulls, yet only averaged 5.2 points. This year they gave him a 65 still, but he won't even play. I guess if he was healthy, he'd be at least as good as reggie miller. I like the 0-99 system and I like the relative steadiness here. Like notice blount only went up to 53, dampier only went up to 62. These guys had good seasons last year, but their value is still not inflated.

[UconnDynasty]

I trust the EA ratings... only problem is they tend to get dated. They are so largely based on last year, and as this year goes on, players will show change. Like Pippen was rated 70 last year, based on his 02 stats and the projection that he might has more chance to lead on the bulls, yet only averaged 5.2 points. This year they gave him a 65 still, but he won't even play. I guess if he was healthy, he'd be at least as good as reggie miller. I like the 0-99 system and I like the relative steadiness here. Like notice blount only went up to 53, dampier only went up to 62. These guys had good seasons last year, but their value is still not inflated.

[UconnDynasty]

I trust the EA ratings... only problem is they tend to get dated. They are so largely based on last year, and as this year goes on, players will show change. Like Pippen was rated 70 last year, based on his 02 stats and the projection that he might has more chance to lead on the bulls, yet only averaged 5.2 points. This year they gave him a 65 still, but he won't even play. I guess if he was healthy, he'd be at least as good as reggie miller. I like the 0-99 system and I like the relative steadiness here. Like notice blount only went up to 53, dampier only went up to 62. These guys had good seasons last year, but their value is still not inflated.

[durvasa]

I trust the EA ratings... only problem is they tend to get dated. They are so largely based on last year, and as this year goes on, players will show change. Like Pippen was rated 70 last year, based on his 02 stats and the projection that he might has more chance to lead on the bulls, yet only averaged 5.2 points. This year they gave him a 65 still, but he won't even play. I guess if he was healthy, he'd be at least as good as reggie miller. I like the 0-99 system and I like the relative steadiness here. Like notice blount only went up to 53, dampier only went up to 62. These guys had good seasons last year, but their value is still not inflated.

You can say that again.

[Andrew]

Ratings are aspects of the game that can be changed fairly easily, so EA could make changes up until the point the game goes gold. Personally, I'm not worried about ratings in the finished product.

[joemimic]

I wouldn't worry about ratings, i'm sure someone will make an excellent roster. It's probably been said that not everyone will be appeased by the ratings thats one of the hard parts about making a sports game not everyone is going to be happy.

[Matt]

personally i don't like the 0-99 system. I liked the old 50-99. This new system is a little hard to get used to, especially the FG ratings.

I think a 75 3pnt rating constitutes a good 3pnt shooter and the player is given a 3 next to his strengths. So i guess that's the bench mark. But then you have guys in the 40's. Can the gap really be this bad? (as far as 2 pnt shooting goes)

[John-John Joe]

I find it hard to understand, why worry about ratings? You can always change them as you see fit....

[alexboom]

I'm not really worried with bad ratings too, Ben and Andrew will correct them pretty quickly, but I'm more worried in the EA Sports roster maker's lack of NBA knowledge

personally i don't like the 0-99 system. I liked the old 50-99. This new system is a little hard to get used to, especially the FG ratings

You know, the old 50-99 rating was just an ingame conversion of 0-99 ratings that were stored in dbf files

[durvasa]

For the guys getting the PC version, its not a big deal at all. Roster updates are easy to do. For console people without online access, its much more annoying and time consuming to deal with. And you can't even fix ALL the problems using their interface.

And why doesn't EA provide a detailed explanation of the Ratings and Sliders in the manual or on their website? It's like they are against people making changes or something. Instead of putting up their 84th dunk contest video montage, how about a useful, detailed tutorial on Ratings and Sliders?

[Silky Smooth Vlade]

Joe Mimic has got to have the best signature.

[Yaso_Kuul]

Is it possible to change the overall rating of a player with one slider or do we have to adjust several sliders to change the overall rating??
I think it would be nice, if we can change a player of a 60 rating to a 65 with one slider and the cpu changes the individual ratings in a good way!