espn just noT in the same league as live

[VlaDiv]

Yes very realistic looking. Yes moves well. Not stiff like before. But still lacks that special something that makes LIve good. LIVE is like mcdonalds, espn is like arby's. Sure, it's pretty good, maybe better in some ways. but its not classic, it doesnt have the feel of fun.
Competition makes sure there is always game every year. Game have to get better to survive, I hope there is always a game about basketball coming out. whoever made up dynasty mode, just the initial idea, is a genius.

[fgrep15]

I want to play the games first of all, but most importantly I want to see ESPN's defense, and a full game bideo before making any conclusions, but the offense looks very nice.

[sho89mtx]

Yes very realistic looking. Yes moves well. Not stiff like before. But still lacks that special something that makes LIve good. LIVE is like mcdonalds, espn is like arby's. Sure, it's pretty good, maybe better in some ways. but its not classic, it doesnt have the feel of fun.
Competition makes sure there is always game every year. Game have to get better to survive, I hope there is always a game about basketball coming out. whoever made up dynasty mode, just the initial idea, is a genius.

I think U got your comparison's a little wrong there. Sega has beat EA in over 90% of every review known to man since the day's of dreamcast, look it up! So I guess EA is the Arby's and Sega is McDonalds, huh?

p.s., has anyone seen the new videos of ESPN when they get fouled? Instead of having a picture of the person who commited te foul, the actually have a fully 3D face and head from the game shown, it's pretty cool. I think Live did this one year, but can't remember what year live it was, but they need to bring it back because I hate making a create-a-player and having a big black sillouette for his picture, on ESPN, it's an actualy 3d image of your created player.

[Old School Fool]

SHUT UP, Sho89.

Your the Wendy's and I'm the Taco Bell...

NBA Live is the McDonalds and ESPN is the Bag of Skittles?

Ok? Cool.

[Riot]

I actually like arby's....

[VlaDiv]

Jesus I thought this was pro-live site and you all like espn.

[Incubus]

One minus for Espn is that, they just advertise the consoles, and don`t make games for PC.

[cocobee]

Actually, when is comes down to the game that makes the most money every year--EA is Bill Gates and Sega is Oprah Winfrey.

[SonnyDano]

i love live but i'm not gonna come here and bash espn. i actually like their game. and it looks like they finally fixed their crap animations.

if they can now get rid of all the horribly painful glitches, jersey colors, etc., it'll be just as fun as live imo.

[VlaDiv]

I not bash game guys. ESPN is inferior, period. Don't let the 20 dollar tag fool you, live is the more enjoyment game.

[sho89mtx]

Actually, when is comes down to the game that makes the most money every year--EA is Bill Gates and Sega is Oprah Winfrey.

now I know your smarter than that to post that irrelevant fact! Live comes out for PC cocobee, it doesn't for Sega and Live also has one of the biggest PC following's of any game in the world like this message board indicates, so put 2 and 2 together and you'll understand why they outsell Sega. Has nothing to do with being a better game. In fact look at all the reviews and tell me who wins them every year? Sega.

p.s. I don't bash EA and only like sega, read my posts on the gameplay videos. I think EA did a great job this year, just think it's gonna be a close race this year even with EA's additions because Sega was so far ahead before it's hard to catch up.

[ludacris06]

If you ask me, ESPN looks like a revamped version of NBA Live 2004.


Pro Hop, Isomotion, court spacing, graphics, playbooks, it's all there. I've seen some unreleased clips of the game in actual play and it looks so smooth. Nothing really looks out of place except isomotion air. (That was a turnoff)

You guys talk about the dribbling being random, but after watching Kobe in the Isomotion air clip, and watching the tutorials on the game, the controls don't look so random anymore.

You also gotta love those new camera angles.


EA sports has their work cut out for them.

Whats up with the resturant comparisons? Last time I checked, they are both resturants, so somewhere down the line I'm going to both.

[cocobee]

Sho, no shit. Bill Gates and Oprah Winfrey are rich people. But Bill Gates is "richer" hence Bill Gates = EA comparison, while Sega = Oprah Winfrey. Not saying which game is better. Just stating that when it comes to money, EA makes way more than Sega. Sorry, it was a little mis leading.

Did anyone watch Chris Rock's latest stand up, when he says " If Bill Gates woke up one morning and found out he had Oprah Winfrey's money--he'd die of a heart attack"--I thought that was some funny shit.

The which game is better argument is pointless, the reason I play these games is because I love the NBA. I love the game and the culture around it. I'll have both again this year, like I always do. I just prefer the PC version of Live. But since I love the NBA--I get both--so atleast i can say-I played both.

[scj]

I not bash game guys. ESPN is inferior, period. Don't let the 20 dollar tag fool you, live is the more enjoyment game.

wtf?
If you're not 'bashing' then why are you saying ESPN is inferior when you haven't even played both games yet?
At least try out both games before jumping to conclusions.

I'm happy to say I'll be getting both (ESPN for PS2, Live for PC)

[sho89mtx]

I not bash game guys. ESPN is inferior, period. Don't let the 20 dollar tag fool you, live is the more enjoyment game.

wtf?
If you're not 'bashing' then why are you saying ESPN is inferior when you haven't even played both games yet?
At least try out both games before jumping to conclusions.

I'm happy to say I'll be getting both (ESPN for PS2, Live for PC)

hahahahah, ignorance is bliss, I guess hhahahahhahaha

[sho89mtx]

If you ask me, ESPN looks like a revamped version of NBA Live 2004.


Pro Hop, Isomotion, court spacing, graphics, playbooks, it's all there. I've seen some unreleased clips of the game in actual play and it looks so smooth. Nothing really looks out of place except isomotion air. (That was a turnoff)

You guys talk about the dribbling being random, but after watching Kobe in the Isomotion air clip, and watching the tutorials on the game, the controls don't look so random anymore.

You also gotta love those new camera angles.


EA sports has their work cut out for them.

Whats up with the resturant comparisons? Last time I checked, they are both resturants, so somewhere down the line I'm going to both.

nicely said!

[VlaDiv]

I have 2k3 and it is not very good. Live 04, even Live 02, is more smooth gameplay.

[GloveGuy]

I not bash game guys. ESPN is inferior, period. Don't let the 20 dollar tag fool you, live is the more enjoyment game.

Thank you for stating YOUR OWN PREFERENCE. Quite frankly, no one really cares. Certainly not enough people care for you to make a whole topic about it. There's other ESPN topics around. How hard is it so hard to post your opinion there?

[scj]

I have 2k3 and it is not very good. Live 04, even Live 02, is more smooth gameplay.

Wait, so you're basing your conclusion ON NBA 2k3?
Wow man.

Anyway IMO,
NBA2k>Live 2000
NBA2k1 was better than NBA2k (never played live 2001)
NBA2k2 (for Dreamcast) was even better (never played live 2002)
NBA2k3>Live 2003
NBA2k4<Live 2004

[Gripni]

None of us here has any idea if NBA 2k5 or Live 05 is better because nobody here has played both, with a possible exception of sho89mtx, because I believe he's getting paid to advertise Sega games (in an extremely annoying fashion.) I can't say if ESPN or Live is better, either. In 2004, Live was better, and in the two years before that, ESPN was better. That's all I can say.

[Silky Smooth Vlade]

NBA2k2 (for Dreamcast) was even better (never played live 2002)

2k2 for dreamcast was really something special. That is by far my favorite year of Sega/ESPN. I didn't play Live that year either. I think 2003 was a bad year for both titles. And yeah, Live did dominate in 2004. Hopefully they will again in 2005 .

[Bird123]

I have 2k3 and it is not very good. Live 04, even Live 02, is more smooth gameplay.

Wait, so you're basing your conclusion ON NBA 2k3?
Wow man.

Anyway IMO,
NBA2k>Live 2000
NBA2k1 was better than NBA2k (never played live 2001)
NBA2k2 (for Dreamcast) was even better (never played live 2002)
NBA2k3>Live 2003
NBA2k4<Live 2004

In my opinion:

NBA2k>Live 2000

(I disagree somewhat. On consoles, yes, but NBA2K was not better than Live 2000 on PC, in my opinion.)

NBA2k1 was better than NBA2k (never played live 2001)

(I agree, and it was also way better than Live 2001, on consoles and PC, in my opinion)

NBA2k2 (for Dreamcast) was even better (never played live 2002)

(I STRONGLY agree, in fact NBA 2K2 wiped the floor with EVERYTHING released that year on consoles or PC (Did Live even release on PC?) and arguably is the best basketball game made to date, only rivaled by Live 2000 for the PC, the height of Sega Sports Basketball.

NBA2k3>Live 2003

(I agree as well. EA started to close the gap, by utilizing the little used right analog stick with freestyle, while it was extremely easy it was the start of a change for the Live Series. Instead of improving upon 2K2, which would have been very hard, Sega regressed. They could have stayed the same and still been miles ahead of EA. But 2K3 played more like 2K1, but perhaps it was because they changed producers (I hear) or because they were trying to make games for all three consoles. Nevertheless, it was still about 45% better than Live.

NBA2k4<Live 2004

(Totally agree. WTF was wrong with Sega? They regressed yet again from the glory days of 2K2 on Dreamcast, if they keep this up with Live steadily improving, they would be surpassed. Well, guess what? It happened. Live improved upon freestyle, introduced 10-man Mocap, added pro-hop, and the long needed different buttons for shoot and lay-up/dunk. Graphics wise they were still behind 2K series, but they beat the shit out of them in gameplay. 2K4 was pretty, but was dumb as hell! Live was average looking, but was way smarter.

NBA2K5 ? NBA Live 2005

Both games are shaping up to be something special, we'll see in less than a month!

[Sauru]

Yes very realistic looking. Yes moves well. Not stiff like before. But still lacks that special something that makes LIve good. LIVE is like mcdonalds, espn is like arby's. Sure, it's pretty good, maybe better in some ways. but its not classic, it doesnt have the feel of fun.
Competition makes sure there is always game every year. Game have to get better to survive, I hope there is always a game about basketball coming out. whoever made up dynasty mode, just the initial idea, is a genius.

I think U got your comparison's a little wrong there. Sega has beat EA in over 90% of every review known to man since the day's of dreamcast, look it up! So I guess EA is the Arby's and Sega is McDonalds, huh?

again you base everything on reviews. i think you need to, for once in your life, have your own damn opinion. its not that hard. just sit there and think for a minute. actually if all you care about is reviews then why not go by the reviews on this site. we all haveing been saying what we like and dont like about both games but that dont matter to you. why? cause we didnt pick espn?

so basicly one more time, and lets hope it sinks into that thick head of yours, reviews dont mean shit buddy.

[Silky Smooth Vlade]

I STRONGLY agree, in fact NBA 2K2 wiped the floor with EVERYTHING released that year on consoles or PC (Did Live even release on PC?) and arguably is the best basketball game made to date, only rivaled by Live 2000 for the PC, the height of Sega Sports Basketball.

Boo-yah. Someone else that shares the opinion that NBA 2k2 is arguably the best basketball game ever made.

[Sauru]

i got a feeling that this years live will be my new fav bball game ever. now before any of you espn fans get your panties in a bunch i did say MY fav bball game.