Random NBA Discussion 2014-15 Season

[NovU]

LBJ quits on the team in close 4th quarter. I told you he will want Chalmers in CLE, lol.

[Kevin]

He'll want Wade again, in exchange for Irving.

[NovU]

So far...

When Kobe's on the bench: +20 pts
When Kobe's on the floor: -120 pts

[JAWSFreelao]

I think CLE should try and poach Blake Griffin from LA. Give up Love for him, and try to snatch away Rondo for Irving.

[Abctest123]

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Also, have no idea how to embed an instagram video link, but here here's quick video tt the Quicken Loans Arena after the game: http://instagram.com/p/vugTcaoSY8/

[NovU]

Can you believe this Raptors team? It's incredible what they've achieved in such short time period.

It was just two seasons ago when Ujiri was dealing with Colangelo's mess. Nobody then expected Raptors to become one of the top teams in the league this fast.

It certainly helped that Kyle Lowry has been impersonating Chris Paul to a great deal. There was a time when Ujiri shopped Derozan and Lowry but he did the right thing by staying with them. He basically got rid of all Colangelo's shitty pieces and kept only the right pieces. What makes this team more exciting is that shit tons of useless contracts are coming off the book so there will be a room for a max player and then some in the upcoming offseason.

For now, let's enjoy watching this #1 team in the league.

[bowdown]

Raptor fans deserve this.

[Mandich]

I think CLE should try and poach Blake Griffin from LA. Give up Love for him, and try to snatch away Rondo for Irving.

Lol wtf are you smoking.

[JAWSFreelao]

Well I think that'd be a beneficial trade for both teams. Chris Paul gets a bona fide scorer instead of a dunking machine with absolutely no jumper outside of a mid range, and LeBron gets a facilitator who makes life easier for everyone on the floor as well as someone who can also handle the ball and create for himself. So how about you contribute to the conversation instead of sitting there making snide commentary?

[Mandich]

Well I think that'd be a beneficial trade for both teams. Chris Paul gets a bona fide scorer instead of a dunking machine with absolutely no jumper outside of a mid range, and LeBron gets a facilitator who makes life easier for everyone on the floor as well as someone who can also handle the ball and create for himself. So how about you contribute to the conversation instead of sitting there making snide commentary?

Reading this reminded me that there will always be TOPBIN type posters that just don't make sense and play too much 2k. I have no further will to discuss this ridicolous trades and constatations with you.

Dick out.

P.S. if you'd send me your providers number, that'd be nice.

[JAWSFreelao]

Lol okay, I don't think you're a dick first off. Second off, I find you to simply be critical without merit. So what I shoot big? It may be unlikely, but it's better to be shot down than to not know for sure. And besides, I haven't touched 2K in god knows how long. I at least attempt to back up my opinion with my own view of said players. It's an opinion, and I wasn't aware I was soliciting answers without any real logic behind them.
Er go, back up your argument. Plain and simple.

[shadowgrin]

Raptors... shit tons of useless contracts are coming off the book so there will be a room for a max player and then some in the upcoming offseason.

Yeah right, like a legit all-star would want to play in Canada.
Raps got lucky with Kyle Lowry because he didn't want to move to another city and team again.



Those Raptors fans in Cleveland were leftovers of Andrew Wiggins' aborted fanbase.

[NovU]

WOW, it looks like Western Conference's Domination over East has reached a new height.

[NovU]

Stephen Curry could likely be the best long range shooter in league history. It's just insane. You don't stop him, you can only hope to slow him down.

Chris Paul and Curry are the best point guards in the league and I honestly can't tell who is better atm. They are clearly better than Kyle Lowry and Damian Lillard. These four though surely separated themselves from rest of the pack so far.

So my list right now would be...

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Godlike: Paul & Curry
1st Tier Stars: Lowry & Lillard
2nd Tier Stars: Conley & Collison
3rd Tier Stars: Jennings, Wall, Rondo, Jrue, Knight, Dwill
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Rondo's value is really unique. I'm inclined to believe he's probably close to 2nd tier maybe. Rondo's largely the ugliest scorer in this list but he's by far the best assist guy + rebounder. Say, he rebounds as well as Ibaka and Boozer(this is CRAZY bcuz he'd be a solid rebounder even if you considered him a PF), and only Rubio (who played more than x2 fewer minutes) is slightly ahead of him while leading CP3 by comfy margin in assist.

Darren Collison inclusion in 2nd tier also should be a surprise. But it's true. He's been tremendous so far. He's been crucial for the Kings. I don't know tbh if he can keep it up though.

[Abctest123]

Serious question with Darren Collison...why can't he stick with a team? He's not a star but he's not a horrible player at all.

[NovU]

He always has been a score-first, under-average in everything else guy. Those kinda PGs(ask Stuckey) often find themselves in tough spot in this league and signs were there that he was going to become such a guy. Things turned last year though. He said that he learned a lot from Doc and CP3 and it was indeed his breakout season so the Kings paid big bucks for him(which is part of reason why Clippers didn't retain him. He's strictly a CP3 back up and you certainly wouldn't feel right paying 5 mil a season for long term for what's still considered a project). I don't know if it's due to Clippers improving his game but he's certainly doing better job as a point guard this year, upped his all around game thus being above average in everything else that he sucked at.

Verdict is not out on him yet though. This could still be an early season fluke.

[Andrew]

Consider the way that Chauncey Billups bounced around in his career, especially early on. That's not to say that Collison is at Billups' level, but sometimes talented players are a bad fit, a GM makes a bad decision in trading them, they still need some maturation as a player, or some other circumstance leads them to change teams a few times before they're able to latch on and put down roots.

[Murat]

How the hell can Hornets win 3 games only?

[Kevin]

How the hell can Hornets win 3 games only?

Stephenson seems like he's still trying to "fit-in". He hasn't been his self after he left the Pacers.

[shadowgrin]

Because they're still the Bobcats with a different name.

[bowdown]

Lance Stephenson is pathetic. I wouldn't want that disgusting body language and attitude anywhere near my team.

[Phil89]

Russell Westbrook is back and has 20 points, 6 rebounds and 7 assists in the first half against the Knicks.

It's gonna be fun watching OKC try and chase down that 8th seed once Durant comes back too.

[Mandich]

Russell soemhow looks even more athletic. He's a freaking beast.

[Kevin]

Westbrook's performance..

[bowdown]

Noone mentions the Grizzlies beating Portland last night. They are legit and scary. This isn't like one of those past years. They have a different aura to them right now.