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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby Graveyard on Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:16 am

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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby TBM on Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:20 am

He can't be trying to sell his tool to 2K. That doesn't even make any sense. Why would 2K buy a tool from some random coder? It's not as if they need any features from his tool. It's their game, they're fully capable of opening their own files. :roll:
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby ChrisCP3Paul on Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:24 am

Graveyard wrote:
i think he want to sell his tool to 2k , because greg tool is free so he will not take too much money from the community ( its just an opinion )



31 posts, or is that your IQ level ? :applaud:
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby maumau78 on Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:24 am

Graveyard wrote:
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Vl@d Zola Jr. wrote:The tool was ready and tested by yesterday evening. Although the release is currently put on hold, as i am negotiating with 2K.

I will keep you updated.

what's happening Vlad?
Are they trying to block release of the tool?


i think he want to sell his tool to 2k , because greg tool is free so he will not take too much money from the community ( its just an opinion )

Nah not possible...but they can try to persuade Vlad ro release the tool :-(
Hope it's not the case....
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby bigh0rt on Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:27 am

TBM wrote:This is starting to just be a bunch of false promises honestly. Greg has a working tool, and before that, screenshots of it and all this stuff, whereas here, we have nothing. When/if it's released, then I'll get excited, but I'm kinda losing faith in this.

This is such a silly statement, given the history of this tool in this community. It wildly takes away from any further discussion you contribute to the topic, unfortunately, because it makes you sound incredibly uninformed. That being said, I'd rather conversation here remain on-topic, and not just devolve into wild speculation that clutters with nonsense. Andrew made that request previously, and I hope we can adhere to it, without having to scratch that itch to always be the person who gets the last word.
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby Graveyard on Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:32 am

ChrisCP3Paul wrote:
Graveyard wrote:
i think he want to sell his tool to 2k , because greg tool is free so he will not take too much money from the community ( its just an opinion )



31 posts, or is that your IQ level ? :applaud:


i think its : your IQ level * 31 = mine :wink:
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby Orion Pax on Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:33 am

2K trying to steal all the talent from NLSC :lol:
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby TBM on Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:35 am

bigh0rt wrote:
TBM wrote:This is starting to just be a bunch of false promises honestly. Greg has a working tool, and before that, screenshots of it and all this stuff, whereas here, we have nothing. When/if it's released, then I'll get excited, but I'm kinda losing faith in this.

This is such a silly statement, given the history of this tool in this community. It wildly takes away from any further discussion you contribute to the topic, unfortunately, because it makes you sound incredibly uninformed. That being said, I'd rather conversation here remain on-topic, and not just devolve into wild speculation that clutters with nonsense. Andrew made that request previously, and I hope we can adhere to it, without having to scratch that itch to always be the person who gets the last word.

I'm certainly not uninformed. I put 50 dollars into REDMC for 2K14. If It sounded like I was implying that this was all fake, and there was no tool in the works, then let me clarify otherwise. All I was saying is that we really have nothing to be excited about, and I'm losing faith, almost all because of the last post about him "negotiating" with 2K.
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby Graveyard on Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:36 am

maumau78 wrote:
Graveyard wrote:
maumau78 wrote:
Vl@d Zola Jr. wrote:The tool was ready and tested by yesterday evening. Although the release is currently put on hold, as i am negotiating with 2K.

I will keep you updated.

what's happening Vlad?
Are they trying to block release of the tool?


i think he want to sell his tool to 2k , because greg tool is free so he will not take too much money from the community ( its just an opinion )

Nah not possible...but they can try to persuade Vlad ro release the tool :-(
Hope it's not the case....


maybe , there's nothing impossible , or even better hope he will get a job with 2k (Y)
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby buzzy on Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:00 am

Well this is an interesting development.
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby Pabig93 on Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:02 am

What is happening here? I hope 2K does not block the Release of this Tool.
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby JBulls on Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:11 am

Let's speculate

https://ch.tbe.taleo.net/CH09/ats/caree ... 38&rid=668

"The candidate should have experience designing and writing both standalone as well as plug-in tools to aid and improve the development process, working closely with other engineers and especially artists and designers to help realize creative visions."
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby centrifugal on Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:44 am

The timing is what would make someone suspicious. I understand that since Leftos and Jao were recruited they might invite more people they've known through this forum. However, negotiating practically a few hours before he releases the tool is suspicious. Whatever the real reasons are it's certainly a negative development for the community of nlsc. This used to be a community for basketball games and modders but it looks like VC is trying to limit and / or control the modding bit.
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby Sman21 on Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:56 am

They could very easily stop him releasing it and take him to court.
It is illegal to sell the tools he has been making as he is reverse engineering other peoples work for profit.
It doesnt matter if he spent 5million hours to make his editors it is illegal
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby maumau78 on Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:00 am

Sman21 wrote:They could very easily stop him releasing it and take him to court.
It is illegal to sell the tools he has been making as he is reverse engineering other peoples work for profit.
It doesnt matter if he spent 5million hours to make his editors it is illegal


I agree but it's not gonna made 1 million dollar :-)

I really dunno what to say hope Vlad will post situation update soon :roll:
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby Graveyard on Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:02 am

JBulls wrote:Let's speculate

https://ch.tbe.taleo.net/CH09/ats/caree ... 38&rid=668

"The candidate should have experience designing and writing both standalone as well as plug-in tools to aid and improve the development process, working closely with other engineers and especially artists and designers to help realize creative visions."



Thats it i think , if its the case hope he will offer he's research to greg to continue the tool (Y)
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby Sman21 on Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:14 am

Even if released for free they could stop him and take to court if they wanted.
Ive seen it happen with other games eg Nascar Racing 2003.
People released free mods and got taken to court.

All mods are illegal most companies dont bother doing anything about it as the negative publicity isnt worth it.

Looks like 2k went to a fair bit of effort to protect their files and make modding more difficult.
So wouldnt surprise me one bit if they decided to put a stop to a guy trying to profit from it.

Decisions like roster files unable to be shared offline wasnt an accident.
It was a deliberate step to make it harder for roster mods/pirated versions getting roster updates.
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby centrifugal on Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:15 am

Seems like I forgot he's getting paid for this... in that case I don't blame 2k for maybe wanting to put a stop to this.As long as they don't try to limit free mods.
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby TBM on Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:19 am

Sman21 wrote:All mods are illegal


This is completely untrue. Hell, some developers release mod tools.
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby buddaking on Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:11 am

Wow.... I put money on the side just for this tool to only get false promises.

Good job @vlad
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby bigh0rt on Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:33 am

buddaking wrote:Wow.... I put money on the side just for this tool to only get false promises.

Good job @vlad

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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby buzzy on Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:35 am

Because obviously that money is unusable now.
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby skoadam on Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:41 am

We will be able to buy editor via steam as dlc. This is my point of view.
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby TBM on Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:54 am

Again, 2K doesn't need someone else to make an editor. It's their fucking files, they don't need someone to reverse engineer their own files. Be logical.
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Re: [Tool] RED Modding Center (In Progress)

Postby PeacemanNOT on Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:48 am

Vlad... just release the damn tool free. It's creating all these problems and now 2K are just going to ban RED MC all together. :bowdown: #RIP2KMODDING :bowdown2:
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