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Re: #NBA2KRank

Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:37 am

skoadam wrote:Guys when u will understand that overall rating mean nothing, absolutely nothing.


LOL, try to post up timmy, then now try perkins. haha

Re: #NBA2KRank

Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:40 am

skoadam wrote:Guys when u will understand that overall rating mean nothing, absolutely nothing.

LOL, I disagree with that.

Re: #NBA2KRank

Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:01 pm

King Mellow wrote:After a disappointing season, Hibbert still got an 80 rating? :facepalm2: :facepalm2: :facepalm2:

Why not?

Re: #NBA2KRank

Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:13 pm

KevinParker13 wrote:
skoadam wrote:Guys when u will understand that overall rating mean nothing, absolutely nothing.
Lol, try playing Kwame vs LeBron. See who wins.

cmon try harder Kevin, your example is....ehhh. U guys arguing here about +-5 points in overall, not 40 right?
Ballyoop wrote:
skoadam wrote:Guys when u will understand that overall rating mean nothing, absolutely nothing.


LOL, try to post up timmy, then now try perkins. haha

and? what your post have to do with overall rating? now LOL.

King Mellow wrote:
skoadam wrote:Guys when u will understand that overall rating mean nothing, absolutely nothing.

LOL, I disagree with that.

Sry to say because i like what you are doin, but if u disagree with my opinion u dont know basic things about roster mechanics. This kind of thinking remind me best roster maker here.
Most important thing is using one formula for all players, hope this is what bedwardsroy19 did this year, im prayin for this[i still cant believe in this, but if my private sources are correct, it looks like 2k15 will use one formula, no more random sets]. If u will use one formula for all players basing on stats etc. it can cause some strange overall ratings but this is for sure not causing bad gameplay/stats experience.

Re: #NBA2KRank

Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:07 pm

KevinParker13 wrote:
King Mellow wrote:After a disappointing season, Hibbert still got an 80 rating? :facepalm2: :facepalm2: :facepalm2:

Why not?

Because of his garbage offense and being terrible rebounder. His only rebounding ability is his size. He isn't mobile and a high jumper. It's just embarrassing for a defensive minded 7'2'' big man to grab 4-5 rebounds per game(30+ MPG) on a constant basis.

Re: #NBA2KRank

Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:10 pm

Overall ratings aren't completely meaningless, but their importance is often overblown. If nothing else, they're not always calculated ideally; athletic ratings can have too much of an impact on the overall (positively or negatively), and role players who are supremely talented in one or two areas and quite valuable as a result may appear underrated because their weaknesses in other areas drag down the overall.

Re: #NBA2KRank

Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:18 pm

Andrew wrote:Overall ratings aren't completely meaningless, but their importance is often overblown. If nothing else, they're not always calculated ideally; athletic ratings can have too much of an impact on the overall (positively or negatively), and role players who are supremely talented in one or two areas and quite valuable as a result may appear underrated because their weaknesses in other areas drag down the overall.

That is very true!

Re: #NBA2KRank

Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:39 pm

You guys can edit them when you have the game. And the community has a lot of roster modders.

Re: #NBA2KRank

Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:33 pm

NBA 2K15 Player Ratings Revealed For the 31st Overall Rated Player Through 50

85 - Paul Millsap (+5) ATL
84 - Goran Dragic (+3) PHX
84 - Deron Williams (-1) BRK
84 - Ty Lawson (-1) DEN
84 - Chris Bosh (+3) MIA
84 - Serge Ibaka (0) OKC
84 - Zach Randolph (+1) MEM
84 - Lance Stephenson (+1) CHA
83 - Manu Ginobili (-3) SAS
83 - Mike Conley (0) MEM
83 - Andre Drummond (+2) DET
83 - Al Horford (+1) ATL
83 - Brook Lopez (+3) BRK
82 - Kemba Walker (-1) CHA
82 - Jrue Holiday (-6) NOP
82 - Rudy Gay (-2) SAC
82 - Andre Iguodala (-4) GSW
82 - Monta Ellis (-2) DAL
82 - Klay Thompson (+4) GSW
82 - Pau Gasol (+2) CHI

Re: #NBA2KRank

Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:41 pm

Glad they reduced Iggy's overall rating.

Re: #NBA2KRank

Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:28 pm

skoadam wrote:
Ballyoop wrote:
skoadam wrote:Guys when u will understand that overall rating mean nothing, absolutely nothing.


LOL, try to post up timmy, then now try perkins. haha

and? what your post have to do with overall rating? now LOL.


you'll know what I mean, try it. overall rating is the sum of all the attributes the player has.

Re: #NBA2KRank

Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:41 pm

Yeah iggy was a bit overrated

Re: #NBA2KRank

Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:50 pm

Holiday, too. He got overrated after his ASG appearance in2013.

Re: #NBA2KRank

Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:00 pm

I think that monta ellis was the 2nf or 3rd best SG in the nba and i don't understand why he is underrated... He had a efficient season, improved his 3pt shooting, lead the NBA in conner 3pt's FG%, one of the leaders in steels, 2nd in assists among the Shooting guards, one of the best players in the NBA scoring in traffic, Can handle and he is very quick... At least he should had a 84...

Re: #NBA2KRank

Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:58 pm

A few things to keep in mind as we wrap up the ratings reveal:
http://www.nba-live.com/the-friday-five ... l-ratings/

Re: #NBA2KRank

Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:21 am

Deron Williams and Z-Bo are a point or 2 overrated in OR for my liking. Glad to see Milsap getting the respect he deserves (even tho a 85 seems a tad high)

Re: #NBA2KRank

Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:26 am

21 87 Al Jefferson C CHA

22 87 Rajon Rondo PG BOS

23 86 Dwyane Wade SG MIA

24 86 DeMarcus Cousins C SAC

25 86 Kyrie Irving PG CLE

26 86 John Wall PG WAS

27 85 Kawhi Leonard SF SA

28 85 DeMar DeRozan SG TOR

29 85 Marc Gasol C MEM

30 85 Kyle Lowry PG TOR



Good to see Big Al Jefferson getting some 2k love. He's going to be a blast to play with. Hope the post play is more intuitive than it has been in recent years.

Re: #NBA2KRank

Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:55 am

Just wanted to bring up a couple of quotes that will clarify why 2K15 OVRs can be significantly different than in 2K14, and how shortcomings that Andrew brings up no longer apply for the most part.

Andrew wrote:A few things to keep in mind as we wrap up the ratings reveal:
http://www.nba-live.com/the-friday-five ... l-ratings/

Andrew wrote:When it comes down to it, overall ratings have not always been calculated particularly well in previous games. The formula doesn’t necessarily take into account whether or not a certain skill is vital given a player’s position, and athletic ratings in particular tend to be weighted too heavily. As such, even if a player’s individual ratings are fairly spot on, their overall might make them appear overrated or underrated. For what it’s worth, it should be noted that Fernando, who is working on the rosters for NBA Live 15, has indicated that they’ve made some changes to the way overall ratings are calculated this year.

If a player appears to be overrated, there’s a good chance it’s due to their athleticism. Traditionally speaking, jumping, speed, and dunking ratings have greatly boosted a player’s overall rating; Josh Smith tends to be my go-to example here. On the other hand, they can also drag a player’s overall rating down. Average athletes with superb talent and skill, such as Steve Nash, can often appear underrated as a result. Having said all that, a player’s other ratings usually balance things out for the most part, and their overall is at least in the ballpark of where it arguably should be.

Things get even more complicated when it comes to key role players who are specialists and thus very skilled in one or two aspects of the game, but not outstanding in others (Kyle Korver would be a good example here). These players are very valuable to their teams because of the specific skills they bring to the table, but their overall rating doesn’t always reflect their importance. However, it’s the individual ratings that matter the most, so it’s only at first glance that such players seem underrated and undervalued…not unlike their real life counterparts, I suppose.

Mike (bedwardsroy), regarding Overall Ratings in 2K15, wrote:As NBA 2K15 Overall ratings are released, I think it is important to point out that NBA 2K15 will feature a revamped formula to determine a player's overall rating. This year a player's overall rating will be determined by what "type" of player they are. By having more dynamic overall rating formulas it allows for players who are highly valued by teams to have a more representative "Overall" rating. Specialists such as great defenders, shooters, and rebounders will have an overall value that properly displays their worth to an NBA team.

The goal of the newly calculated Overall formulas is to as accurately as possible show a player's value in the NBA. The new formula will really highlight those players that play a very important role on their team, but may not be the prototypical player at their position. All players in the NBA provide some sort of value to their team, and the revamped Overall formulas should really illustrate that in NBA 2K15.

Leftos, regarding Overall Ratings in 2K15, wrote:Each Position has a set of Archetypes (or Player Types, if you will). All-Around, Athletic, Defensive, etc. A player has an overall per player type per position. So a player has (NumberOfPositions * NumberOfPlayerTypesPerPosition) overall ratings. Each Positional Player Type has its own overall formula (so PG All Around has a different formula than PF All Around has a different formula than C Defensive).

Whenever his overall rating gets updated, we calculate all the overall ratings for his position by player type. The player type that gives him his the highest overall is the one we determine "most compatible", so we assign it to him along with that Overall.

So yes, a player that might be C All-Around but as years go by sees his offensive attributes regress but you've made sure to keep him up to par defensively using (cheap plug but I'm a dev) our new in-season Training system, might see his player type change to C Defensive, and his value to the team will still be there.

Re: #NBA2KRank

Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:10 pm

Awesome, that's great to know. (Y)

Re: #NBA2KRank

Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:33 pm

Finally, an increase in Big Al's rating. :bowdown2:

Re: #NBA2KRank

Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:47 pm

Updated with new rankings. Also, thanks for clarification Leftos. I guess you can't say whether the last 20 places will be revealed at once or by ten etc... :D

Re: #NBA2KRank

Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:26 am

Updated the rankings again with positions 11-20. Good thing I'm was not sleeping atm, but it's 0:30 am here, so I guess I'll go then.

Re: #NBA2KRank

Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:21 am

My guess at the top 10

1. 97 Lebron James
2. 95 Kevin Durant
3. 93 Chris Paul
4. 92 Carmelo Anthony
5. 89 Paul George
6. 89 Steph Curry
7. 89 Blake Griffin
8. 88 Tim Duncan
9. 88 Kobe Bryant
10. 88 Kevin Love


My reasoning:
There is no way I can justify in my mind putting Kevin Love over the other 9.
Kobe and Tim Duncan could swap easily.
I took Lebron down a peg, that's just my guess.
I feel Curry is more valuable as a PG then Griffin at PF but Griffin might have another gear in him.

Re: #NBA2KRank

Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:26 am

Love is better than Griffin.

Re: #NBA2KRank

Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:46 am

TBM wrote:Love is better than Griffin.


I put love 1 rating point lower than Griffin because during the stretch when CP3 went down, Griffin proved he could do more than he has been given credit for in the past. He showed other facets of his game and made some pretty good distribution decisions. Not to mention keeping his team in the playoff picture in the competitive Western Conference.
Also I took into consideration that each position has a different rating formula for each playstyle.
Lastly I give Griffin the leg up with post season experience edge.
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