Player ratings

[Icebane]

That would also come under the Position factor... A PG not good at dunking shouldn't hurt them, but bad at stealing or passing would

[Metsis]

But the taking of the couple of the lowest and highest stats before calculating the overall would reduce the effects of positional stats too. With point guards, well the fact that dunking is in the 50 range and blocking too would be the ones that are cut out. And with centers maybe 3pt shooting and dribbling would be usually picked off. This system would not discriminate directly any one... The fact that you have a center that can handle the ball well would be a huge advantage, cause then one lower stat would be left out in the calculations.

You could use this system, with basically all the positions... With nothing being emphasized. The overall should only be a number to compare players overall performance on the court and it shouldn't count into anything stat wise... Stats should be skill related not overall related.

[Icebane]

I'm sure we've said this before, but Primacy needs to have more of an affect in the out come of a game. I recently made a Player with 99 on everything but 50 Primacy, and he still scored 22 PPG (5 min sim quaRTERS) yes I put primacy up to 99 and he only scored an extra 4 PPG...

[Ruff Ryder]

Shaq-96
KG-95
Kobe-94
T-Mac-94
Duncan-93
C-webb-92
Iverson-92
Francis-91
Dirk-91
Kidd-90
VC-90
Allen-90
Marbury-90
Marion-90
JO-89
Brand-89
K-mart-88
Paul Pierce-88
......Lebron-85
Carmelo-84

[crimson_stallion]

U put the answer THAT low, are u outta ya mind (nothing personnal, just an AI-fan )!!! He deserves more credit, there aint no player that whos getting that much banged up in the league and just keeps getting up and not to mention about his amazingly fast first step and the ability to create his own shots(but gotta admit that his fg% is way off ), he should rank ninth or something, if it was only becuz his will to win(and thats why the US olympic team is gonna take revenge, they got an answer )

That's very true, but things like effort and mental strength unfortuantely dotn tend to be included in the ratings. For that reason, efficiency rating suggests that when going by statistics, AI wouldn't be as high as he probably should be.

[crimson_stallion]

1. Duncan--I just think he's the best payer in the NBA
2. Shaq--still dominant
3. Garnett--He can't get his team out of the first round, but that's not important in the ratings (unless they bring back clutch)
4. Kobe
5. McGrady (the best offensive player, but 5th best overall.)
6. I think Nowitzki. He'll probably be ranked lower if they put more emphasis on speed, quickness, and athleticism. I think he's great because he's 7 foot and can shoot as well as anyone in the NBA.
7. Kidd
8. Iverson
9. Pierce
10. Webber (dropped because of age)

Also, I hope they adjust the legend's ratings. I was trying to create a roster using them, and I noticed Snow and Tiny Archibald have the same overall.

Dont think clutch has antyhign to do with Kg's lack of success in minnesotta. He took out first place in the crunch time point for the regular season after all. I think it is abit unfair that a player should be looked on as being not as good simply becase the other guys on his team might not do as well as they can. For a guy whos first in efficency ranking and ccrucnh time points, this represents a very strong case about how much effort and contribution he makes. 23 points, 13 rebounds and 6 assists, while shooting at 50% and makign the all defensive first team suggests alot. i think KG doesnt get the recognition he deserves, and although i like the wolves, id like to see him have a better chance at a championship.

[crimson_stallion]

1)KG (95)
2)Duncan (95)
3)Shaq (93)
4)T-mac (93)
5) J-Kidd (92)
6)Kobe (91)
7)Nowitzki (90)
8)Webber (90)
9)Brand (89)
10) S Marion (88)
11)J Oneal (88)
12)P Pierce (87)
13)B Wallace (86)
14)P Gasol (86)
15)Abdur Rahim (86)
16)Steve Francis (85)
17)G Payton (84)
18)A Iverson (83)
19)Ray Allen (82)
20)S Marbury (82)

What about Rasheed??? and Ray Allen at 82???

These were taken (almost entirely) from the players efficiency ratings. Personally, i think ray allen is an excellent player, and i used the ratings more literally. i.e. how good the player is out of 100, percentage type thing. A percentage or 82% for anythign is very good, and 90 is basically top of the top. For this reason i thought only the top top alstarts should be above 90. The guys who are good enough to be considered MVP candidates basically.

As for Rasheed, I think the facts that he is very athletic and not small (6"10, 230lbs) suggest he could be better then he is. He is on a team full of a hell of alot of talent, and tome he hasnt seemed a great leader. He is not in the top 20 i dont think in the NBA efficiency rating, which says somethign about his statistical production. I think for guy who is very athletic and 6"10, 8ish rebounds per game is nothing extremely impressive. Nor is 18 or so points per game. His assist numbers arent that great, nor are his percentages. Personally I think Rasheed is one of, if not THE most overrated player in the NBA. NO doubt his stats are definately good, but they arent as great as he gets credit for. I also think it is quite rediculous that his ratings in many live games are right up there with duncans, garnetts, shaqs and kobes. As good as he is, he's not that good. Personally I think anything more then about 87 would be highly overrating. I honestly think that Jermaine Oneal is better at what he does then Rasheed wihtout a doubt, yet hes ratings are always far lower. Why?

[sventhedog]

i think tim duncan and garnett has to be players with highest overalls. they both get the job done. its just that tim duncan's more of a low post player(definitely stronger more dominant than garnett in the low post) while kg is more of an all around player( plays perimeter better than duncan.

[-BHZMAFIA-]

Shaq-96
KG-95
Kobe-94
T-Mac-94
Duncan-93
C-webb-92
Iverson-92
Francis-91
Dirk-91
Kidd-90
VC-90
Allen-90
Marbury-90
Marion-90
JO-89
Brand-89
K-mart-88
Paul Pierce-88
......Lebron-85
Carmelo-84

This is probably the most realistic list. I think you can switch Allen and JO though. That's the only thing I really see wrong, so good list.

[Jackal]

As much as I like Shaq, him being higher than Duncan & Garnett isn't realistic. You have to take into account that all stats contribute to the players' overall rating.

Duncan & Garnett are capable of alot more than O'Neal, thus also making their overall ratings higher.

[-BHZMAFIA-]

wait, i didnt even see shaq ahead of all of them at first...i thought he was like a 93 or 92...oh well, your right

[FanOfAll]

Shaq-96
KG-95
Kobe-94
T-Mac-94
Duncan-93
C-webb-92
Iverson-92
Francis-91
Dirk-91
Kidd-90
VC-90
Allen-90
Marbury-90
Marion-90
JO-89
Brand-89
K-mart-88
Paul Pierce-88
......Lebron-85
Carmelo-84

This is probably the most realistic list. I think you can switch Allen and JO though. That's the only thing I really see wrong, so good list.

Not anymore, IMO. KG should have highest overall, as he is the most versatile. CWeb, Dirk, Francis, VC, and Marion are names that should be in the low 80s. JO should be around AI's level, Shaq down to maybe 94.

[GrnDynsty]

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