Greatest Players Of Your Favorite Team(s) 2013 Edition

[NovU]

Let's allow bias into the discussion because if then players like Kobe would have no business being included in this thread.

MIAMI HEAT
(1) Dwyane Wade
(2) Alonzo Mourning
(3) LeBrick Jameson of a bitch

LeQueen prolly will replace Dwyane in the future but that's if he stays long enough as a Heat. Shaquille was snubbed because his years as a Heat were injury plagued and only played 4 incomplete seasons.

VANCOUVER GRIZZLIES
(1) Shareef Abdur-Rahim
(2) Bryant Reeves
(3) Pete Chilcutt

Snubs: Cherokee Parks, Michael Dickerson, Antonio Daniels, Greg Anthony, Otis Thorpe, Tony Massenburg, Bobby Hurley, Blue Theodore Edward, Othella Harrington, Lee Mayberry: BOY I'M talking a lot of quality here.

[Andrew]

Even if we're only taking into account the years certain players played for a team, I'd personally place LeBron at number one in Heat history at this point. He's the best player they've ever had on their roster and after the past couple of seasons, I'd say he's been just as historically significant to the Heat as Wade.

CHICAGO BULLS

1. Michael Jordan
2. Scottie Pippen
3. Derrick Rose

Notable mentions: Dennis Rodman, Jerry Sloan, Artis Gilmore, Norm Van Lier, Bob Love, Horace Grant, Joakim Noah, Bill Cartwright, Luol Deng. That'd probably round out my all-time Bulls team.

[NovU]

Perhaps, but LeBrick played 2 seasons with us. Compare that to Shaq's 4 years. I still gave more credits to LeBrick's 2 years because those years come in as his prime. I think he belongs to Cavalier's number 1 than Heat's number 1, for now.

And Bill Wennington for the Bulls. End of discussion.

[Andrew]

No, no. Air Jud.

[Kenny]

Denver Nuggets

1) Alex English
2) Carmelo Anthony
3) Dan Issel

Snubs: Kiki Vandeweghe, David Thompson, Dikembe Mutombo

San Antonio Spurs

1) Tim Duncan
2) David Robinson
3) George Gervin

Snubs: Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Sean Elliot

[mariulis1]

NEW YORK KNICKS
1) Patrick Ewing
2) Charles Oakley
3) Larry Johnson

Snubs: Allan Houston, John Starks, Latrell Sprewell.

[Axel The Great]

Houston Rockets

1. Hakeem Olajuwon
2. Moses Malone
3. Yao Ming

The #1 spot is definitely not debatable, but 2 and 3 are definitely up for grabs by some of the snubs below.
Snubs: Clyde Drexler, Tracy McGrady, Ralph Sampson, Calvin Murphy, Elvin Hayes, Steve Francis, Rudy Tomjanovich, James Harden

[benji]

Wait, are these supposed to be our personal picks or something semi-objective?

In any case, since it's the same for both:

Detroit Pistons
1. Andre Drummond
2. Andre Drummond
3. Chauncey Billups

Snubs: Andre Drummond, Adrian Dantley, Ben Wallace, Bill Laimbeer, Bob Lainer

Accounting for time spent with the team and quality it's probably: Lanier, Billups and Laimbeer. Not accounting for time spent, it's Billups, Lanier and Andre Drummond.

[benji]

Here's some fun little numerical stupidity, equal weighting of personal statistical performance, longevity and team (regular season) performance:

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Dwyane Wade   7.92
LeBron James   7.43
Alonzo Mourning   6.28
Tim Hardaway   5.11
Eddie Jones   4.83
Chris Bosh   4.42
Shaquille O'Neal   4.31
Udonis Haslem   4.23
Glen Rice   4.19
P.J. Brown   3.89

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Shareef Abdur-Rahim   4.06
Greg Anthony   2.45
Mike Bibby   2.45
Bryant Reeves   2.11
Michael Dickerson   1.87
Michael Smith   1.75
George Lynch   1.69
Eric Murdock   1.51
Grant Long   1.49
Tony Massenburg   1.49
Pete Chilcutt   1.34
Othella Harrington   1.34
Byron Scott   1.21
Blue Edwards   1.13
Sam Mack   1.08
Lee Mayberry   0.77

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Patrick Ewing*   7.47
Walt Frazier*   7.23
Harry Gallatin*   6.64
Willis Reed*   6.01
Kenny Sears   5.58
Bill Cartwright   5.48
Charles Oakley   5.03
Carl Braun   4.96
David Lee   4.82
Bernard King*   4.81
Richie Guerin*   4.67
Walt Bellamy*   4.63
Bob McAdoo*   4.44
Earl Monroe*   4.44
John Starks   4.35
Tyson Chandler   4.22
Anthony Mason   4.20
Mark Jackson   4.18
Marcus Camby   4.15
Carmelo Anthony   4.12

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Michael Jordan*   11.77
Scottie Pippen*   6.76
Artis Gilmore*   6.50
Chet Walker*   6.45
Horace Grant   5.60
Joakim Noah   4.91
Toni Kukoc   4.91
Bob Boozer   4.78
Luol Deng   4.75
Derrick Rose   4.37
Tom Boerwinkle   4.28
Bob Love   4.28
Steve Kerr   4.26

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Dan Issel*   6.74
Alex English*   6.19
David Thompson*   5.17
Carmelo Anthony   5.13
Nene Hilario   5.10
Fat Lever   4.99
Marcus Camby   4.58
Kiki Vandeweghe   4.48
Dikembe Mutombo   4.45
Bobby Jones   4.31
Chauncey Billups   4.27

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David Robinson*   10.54
Tim Duncan   9.91
Manu Ginobili   7.39
George Gervin*   6.81
Tony Parker   6.38
Artis Gilmore*   4.87
Sean Elliott   4.50
Avery Johnson   4.29
Larry Kenon   4.26
Johnny Moore   3.79

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Hakeem Olajuwon*   8.84
Moses Malone*   6.80
Yao Ming   6.72
Calvin Murphy*   5.85
Rudy Tomjanovich   5.38
Otis Thorpe   4.96
Charles Barkley*   4.91
Steve Francis   4.70
Tracy McGrady   4.64
Clyde Drexler*   4.43
Kenny Smith   4.25
Rodney McCray   4.12
Elvin Hayes*   4.06
Luis Scola   4.00
James Harden   3.98

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Bob Lanier*   7.19
Chauncey Billups   7.01
Bill Laimbeer   6.27
Larry Foust   6.20
Grant Hill   6.10
Bailey Howell*   5.89
George Yardley*   5.61
Ben Wallace   5.44
Isiah Thomas*   5.42
Joe Dumars*   5.38
Dennis Rodman*   5.10
Richard Hamilton   4.81
Dave Bing*   4.73
Adrian Dantley*   4.51
Tayshaun Prince   4.46
Rasheed Wallace   4.39
Terry Dischinger   4.17
Kelly Tripucka   4.14
Vinnie Johnson   4.09
Antonio McDyess   4.08
Jerry Stackhouse   3.91
Amir Johnson   2.56
Andre Drummond   2.46
Charlie Villanueva   2.26
Ben Gordon   1.54

A couple not mentioned but reasonably famous:

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Larry Bird*   8.86
Bill Russell*   8.42
Paul Pierce   7.76
Robert Parish*   7.41
Kevin McHale*   7.41
Ed Macauley*   7.04
Sam Jones*   6.80
John Havlicek*   6.79
Bill Sharman*   6.40
Bob Cousy*   6.30

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Magic Johnson*   9.45
Jerry West*   9.26
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar*   9.10
Kobe Bryant   9.04
George Mikan*   9.01
Shaquille O'Neal   8.77
Elgin Baylor*   7.05
Wilt Chamberlain*   6.42
Vern Mikkelsen*   6.41
Pau Gasol   6.23
James Worthy*   5.72
A.C. Green   5.18
Andrew Bynum   5.03

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Gerald Wallace   4.77
Emeka Okafor   3.73
D.J. Augustin   2.69
Brevin Knight   2.64
Raymond Felton   2.59
Jason Richardson   2.58
Boris Diaw   2.47
Nazr Mohammed   2.37
Primoz Brezec   2.29
Jason Hart   2.14

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Karl Malone*   10.47
John Stockton*   9.82
Adrian Dantley*   7.22
Andrei Kirilenko   5.88
Jeff Hornacek   5.66
Paul Millsap   5.23
Carlos Boozer   5.16
Deron Williams   5.02
Mehmet Okur   4.83
Rickey Green   4.26
Al Jefferson   4.07

[benji]

As an example, same method, but playoffs only:

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Dwyane Wade   4.19
LeBron James   3.98
Alonzo Mourning   2.49
Chris Bosh   2.35
Udonis Haslem   1.88
Dan Majerle   1.76
Eddie Jones   1.72
Mario Chalmers   1.70
P.J. Brown   1.65
Shaquille O'Neal   1.63

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Michael Jordan*   6.62
Scottie Pippen*   3.87
Horace Grant   3.40
Toni Kukoc   2.62
Joakim Noah   2.37
Ron Harper   2.30
Chet Walker*   2.18
Luol Deng   2.17
B.J. Armstrong   2.16
Steve Kerr   1.92
John Paxson   1.76
Dennis Rodman*   1.71
Kirk Hinrich   1.70
Derrick Rose   1.69
Tom Boerwinkle   1.64
Bob Love   1.63
Bob Boozer   1.58
Artis Gilmore*   1.56
Ben Wallace   1.51
Taj Gibson   1.48
Luc Longley   1.46
Ben Gordon   1.42
Scott Williams   1.41
Bill Cartwright   1.35

[benji]

Had to check this one:

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Elton Brand   6.67
Bob McAdoo*   5.96
Chris Paul   5.76
Corey Maggette   4.91
Blake Griffin   4.89
Randy Smith   4.37
Danny Manning   4.02
World B. Free   3.99
Swen Nater   3.96
Charles Smith   3.94
Bob Kauffman   3.83
Loy Vaught   3.83
Terry Cummings   3.65
Jim McMillian   3.62
Eric Piatkowski   3.48
DeAndre Jordan   3.27
Darrick Martin   1.79

Two of their current players have played for the team two and three years respectively and are already in the top five. Jordan's not far outside the top fifteen.

EDIT: Just realized that two of the Heat's top six are current players who have only played for the team three years...

[Fresh8]

Lakers

1. Magic/Kobe (tie) - Kobe beats Magic if/when he wins a 6th ring. For now, they are tied. If I was forced to pick one, I would have to say Kobe only because he is going to finish as the leader in most franchise records once all is said and done. (and maybe I talked myself into Kobe as a personal preference)
2. Kareem - 3 MVPs, 5 Rings
3. Shaq - Could have been higher if history took a different course
4. Jerry West

[shadowgrin]

HEAT
The Greatness that is Joel Anthony
DJ Rony Seikaly
Bimbo Coles

LAKERS
Kobe Bryant
Derek Fisher
Sasha Vujacic

WIZARDS
Calbert Cheaney
Popeye Jones
Michael Jordan

BULLS
Stacey King
Jack Haley
Will Perdue

CELTICS
Antoine Walker
Ron Mercer
Kenny Anderson

[benji]

If you were serious instead of snarky or bratty we might figure out a way to pick the WORST PLAYERS. Instead you go and list Kenny Anderson, when Travis Knight is sitting right there causing Pitino to continue to have flashbacks:


And an off topic note looking at the tables I posted above. 8+ is basically everyone whose numbers I'd actually consider retiring.

[shadowgrin]

Travis Knight is more of a Laker great but he's not friends with Kobe Bryant so he's not included.

[benji]

The Lakers didn't give him a seven year contract.

[deihatein]

Mavericks

1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Steve Nash
3. Michael Finley

[The X]

HEAT
The Greatness that is Joel Anthony
DJ Rony Seikaly
Bimbo Coles

Where is Sean Marks? Surely equal first with Joel Anthony. Marks' career year with Heat was a golden moment in the league's history.

[rise]

Gerald Wallace
Kemba Walker
Stephen Jackson
Jason Richardson

Sad. I know.

[hova-]

Mavericks

1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Steve Nash
3. Michael Finley

I'd take the Jet over Finley all day long. I'm still sad that he did not get the chance to finish his career in Dallas.

[NovU]

I don't mean to be a dickhead but... Three things to address here.

First: Is benji on crack again? He listed Drummond 4 times, 4 fucking times in a single post. Where's justice in that? Wade is listed one time. Let's keep that in mind.

Second: LOL at Bobcat's greats. Vancouver Grizzlies put them in shame with just 5 years of lifespan.

Last: Dirk Nowhiski fans are lucky Harden didn't get traded to the Mavericks.

[deihatein]

Last: Dirk Nowhiski fans are lucky Harden didn't get traded to the Mavericks.

Why? We'll take him in a heartbeat.

[Martti.]

Miami :

1. Dwyane Wade
2. Alonzo Mourning
3. Udonis Haslem

When it's all said and done, I expect both D-Wade and Haslem's jersey hanging in the rafters.

[Dc311]

Spurs
1:Tim Duncan
2:David Robinson
3:George Gervin
4:Johnny Moore
5:The Coyote

Snubs
Tony Parker,Sean Elliot,Manu Ginobili,Eva Longoria,Avery Johnson

[benji]

I don't mean to be a dickhead but... Three things to address here.

First: Is benji on crack again? He listed Drummond 4 times, 4 fucking times in a single post. Where's justice in that? Wade is listed one time. Let's keep that in mind.

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